Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 5 minutes later, 29 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,238,417
@1,238,406 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Yes you did. You heavily implied there was something wrong with her body and you directly said that nothing good could've come from posting such pictures.
Guess what? Exactly the opposite happened. Many, including Erik, enjoyed the pictures, and literally nothing bad whatsoever came from it.
To be incredibly and unrealistically charitable in interpreting what you did, I'd say that what you said was, at best, projection. Yes, nothing good would come from you posting lingerie pictures of yourself (and the fact of the matter is no one here would even want to see them), but literally no other woman on these boards shares that problem.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 30 seconds later, 31 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,238,419
@1,238,409 (squeegee)
How would you describe what kook did? Notice that she's not even denying that she did this. We were all there. We all saw. There was no impersonation. That's how kook is and no one else can be blamed for her behavior.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 2 years ago, 3 minutes later, 34 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,238,420
@1,238,418 (D)
Sorry, I don't care enough to find the thread. Both squeegee and kook know what I'm talking about. If you weren't here for it or aren't interested in finding this yourself, then just move on and don't see this thread as directed or relevant to you.
If it helps, it happened maybe 6 or so months ago. You might find it more easily if you search for posts under kook's name because I don't remember what name squeegee was posting under at that time.
> Sorry, I don't care enough to find the thread. Both squeegee and kook know what I'm talking about. If you weren't here for it or aren't interested in finding this yourself, then just move on and don't see this thread as directed or relevant to you. > > If it helps, it happened maybe 6 or so months ago. You might find it more easily if you search for posts under kook's name because I don't remember what name squeegee was posting under at that time.
a) it didn't happen
b) you are mad that you aren't party to any drama
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 53 seconds later, 36 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,238,425
@1,238,422 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Yes, now read and address the rest of my post.
Thanks for confirming that this was all you saying that and was no way anyone impersonating you or trying to make you look bad. You do a better job of that than anyone else could.
> No I dont. I never insulted her body or implied that there was anything wrong with it
You're really bad at this: > I said it was unwise to post racy pics here
> Ending your estrogen is making you all pissy
You sound very obsessed with trans people. You see them everywhere even where they are not. What a sad life indeed. Maybe you should become a man. You aren't doing too well as a woman!
Squeegee joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 2 hours later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,238,582
@1,238,419 (A)
I'd describe it as an area, a zone perhaps, in which I may find myself, and Kook may find herself, and what business there is in and around this... perimeter of what the fuck do you have to do with being here all up in somewhere you think you have the right to "tresspass." I'd describe it as your fleeting last gasps for attention, stay off my lawn histrionic. I'm not your friend, stranger.
Squeegee double-posted this 2 years ago, 28 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,238,585
Oh, mother fucker. Half the thread on this board are by Matt throwing flashbangs and smoke grenades against the wall.
And now Catherine apparently is a self-imposter-imposter.
Trolling herself.
__,,__
👁 👃_👁 -... point goes to Tteh.
✍️ you mother fuckers. If I have
📒 to apologize -again- to someone
because... you, know, monkey's
don't even fling other monkey's shit around.
You just grab a fist full and this is why
everyone has worms. Damn
Indy joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 5 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,238,587
@previous (Squeegee)
What? A very small percentage of the posts here are by me. Don't be fooled by the obsessed idiots. I do not post here much anymore.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 1 hour later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,238,602
@1,238,582 (Squeegee)
Try this for once: consider what is being said and not who is saying it. Let's try this again:
Kook said several months ago that you should not post pictures of yourself soon after an extended argument you were having with her. Where she all but said you should feel bad for getting raped and almost dying from it, because it was somehow your fault. She further heavily implied that you were mentally not well. That's the context. Well, not really, there's also about a decade of history of her stalking and harassing other trans women. But let's not get into that for now.
Take note that she never denies that these conversations happened and she has never claimed that anyone impersonated her in saying those things to you. Also take note that she has never apologized to you for any of this, despite you apologizing, not once, but several times over the span of 6+ months.
Squeegee replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,238,603
@1,238,587 (Indy)
Oh, please. It's not like Catherine is acting in response to anything but herself. She got it in her mind to come here now and make the point that she's not responsible for impersonating me or Kook last year. No one is even saying that. No one is saying that we're pointing fingers at Catherine, and no body is saying she's detransitioning. Catherine is doing all that. I hear. Or some rando. She's just here to attack Kook for no reason. It's not like the rumors, that Catherine is kooks pet. What a weird thing to say. And the sudden Amping up of anti transgender and and anti Catherine threads. Of course thats not meant to look like a campaign. It's just cat being a weirdo. We won't have to look at it for long, mods with eventually come through and sweep up the worst of it. Like all the clock threads, you remember. Like the tower clock, no impostor, just copy pasta. Copy pasta errywhere.
Anonymous G replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,238,607
@previous (Squeegee)
Do you ever ask yourself why one or two people here have decades' long histories of obsession? Do you think their lives have anything meaningful in them? Can you give one reason they should want to live?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 8 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,238,618
@1,238,605 (Squeegee) > OK, we're not talking about me yet. What do you want?
Really just three things:
1. To make it clear to you that those discussions were kook and only kook. No one but her deserves blame for what she said and did then.
2. To give kook a second (third? fourth? who's counting?) chance to redeem herself and apologize to you. Obviously that didn't happen, and I didn't have much hope that it would. But I always believe in giving people chances to better themselves and right the wrongs of the past.
3. To check in and see how you see the whole situation. How it all fits together or doesn't in your head. Because while you've expressed some theories about what and why things happen here, the whole brouhaha I'm speaking of here does not seem to fit into it at all.
Squeegee replied with this 2 years ago, 4 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,238,620
@1,238,615 (G)
Are you okay, bud. It doesn't have to be this way. I don't think you're pitiful. And I don't think you need me to be your friend. But I'm asking. U good?
2. It's not your business, I'll say that. But listen to me now - I do not need an apology in order to forgive someone. Forgiveness is not for them, forgiveness is for the forgiver. And my reasons for apologizing and forgiving anyone ate always the same. That are for me to own. They are for people to see that - I have. And I also have conviction. I apologized and I meant it. And I have no bad faith in my heart for Kook. I just want to be cool with Kook.
I appreciate you considering that I would deserve to have someone defending my honor such as it is. But let's all just take a minute and ask... who the fuck is Anon g? What do they want?
> 1. Why. Why now?
Because I've recently seen you claim that many here were impersonated in order to instigate arguments or some such. I wanted to make sure you knew that that was all 100% kook. If you want to forgive her for that, despite her seemingly not even being convinced that she did anything wrong in blaming you, gaslighting you, and generally shaming you, then, as you say, that's your business. But I think it's only fair to know who you are dealing with.
> 2. It's not your business, I'll say that. But listen to me now - I do not need an apology in order to forgive someone. Forgiveness is not for them, forgiveness is for the forgiver. And my reasons for apologizing and forgiving anyone ate always the same. That are for me to own. They are for people to see that - I have. And I also have conviction. I apologized and I meant it. And I have no bad faith in my heart for Kook. I just want to be cool with Kook.
That's a very interesting take on forgiveness. It almost sounds like you forgive for the sake of your own image? To simply improve how people see you? I feel like that's not what you mean, but then again, I feel like that's what you just said. Correct me if I'm wrong, because it does seem that I am, at least on this specific point.
> I appreciate you considering that I would deserve to have someone defending my honor such as it is.
I'm doing no such thing. This is at least as much as about protecting others from kook as it is about you. She's already, arguably, killed one of our members here. We don't need another member down.
Squeegee replied with this 2 years ago, 36 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,238,626
@1,238,624 (A)
For the sake of my own soul. I don't forgive people to absolve them of anything except of my judgement. No one is damned by how I feel, no one is saved by how I feel. But I'm freed from it as much as they are. What's between them and God, I want no part in that. And yeah, I feel strongly that if I can so strongly I deserve an apology, then I'd better feel strongly enough to forgive them for it.
Otherwise that's retribution. Eye for an eye. So just do that, and drop the charade. Call it what it is. There's honor in that.
But it still harms your nature. I don't care about my image. I care about being whole.
And maybe I'm still struggling to take my hate back, and have to admit I put it out there because it feels good sometimes to pluck out an eye.
Squeegee double-posted this 2 years ago, 54 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,238,632
And Catherine, I don't blame you for how you feel. I've seen a lot, a LOT of people direct hate at you and say things about you that I've never seen from you. I don't know you, but I also don't know you the way some people want everyone to. Obviously you're not to blame for the truth, which is you know more about you than anyone. Everyone knows exactly who they are. And there are people who can own that and there are people who reject themselves. And people who do that can't change, or grow and no one notices that. Especially them.
And I don't think either of ur are ever going to pluck out anyone's eye. We deserve better. Literally that's all. You can be proud of what you earn. You may never get it. But it's yourand sometimes forgivness is a realization. .
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 5 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,238,638
@1,238,632 (Squeegee)
Thanks for the kind words. I try to forgive kook, but she's stalked me for years and was even trying to start shit about me on kiwifarms before I got my mom to threaten legal action and got most of it shut down. Now she's even dropping casual mention of where one of my family members is as some intimidation tactic. Yes, she deserves to be forgiven, but that doesn't mean forgetting. Only a fool would forget who and what she is. She is a snake. And while all life -- all God's creations -- deserve respect, one can not truly respect oneself if one invites a snake into their home or into their life. I'm warning you. Forgive her? Yes. Trust her? No self-respecting person should. The last person that did that got scammed out of hundreds of thousands of dollars. And the person before that ended up dead.
squeegee replied with this 2 years ago, 10 hours later, 22 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,238,742
@1,238,638 (A)
forgiveness doesn't imply friendship, or trust or anything of that nature. it's more about what you put into the world that what anyone else does. forgetting is also the same way.
You say all these things, and tbh, i can't invalidate what you say, but it opens the door for people to. you can repeat yourself forever, and so can anyone else, and it's especially easy to use anonymity to allege things, deny things, create alternate events, but the truth loses its power the more often it has to be repeated. people have to see the truth for it to stick. you don't have to defend the truth, you just have to know it and let that inform your actions. the truth is, people lie, they impersonate people to spread false narratives, enjoy watching people stab at the dark around them defensively and they'll try their hardest to make you react in ways that make you pull knives out.
At some point, anyone who's looking to understand because they feel that their mind isn't already made up because they know that trust is earned, respect is given freely, belief comes from understanding, and judgement is for god and juries, forgiveness if for the aggrieved, and responsibility is simply what's ethical. and navigating things with an intact moral compass is not fucking easy because everyone has their own north to guide them and that's a moving target.
but, a ship that never changes course is the only one that's directionless, it's only counter intuitive because people aren't ships. no one knows what's right or wrong in every situation they find themselves in, we make decisions the best way we know how based on what we understand the conditions to be. hindsight can tell us if we're still on the right course, right or wrong, doesn't matter, changing course when we understand the conditions are right to is always the right thing to do. you right the ship. you may still sink, but you did the right thing to follow your compass. a fleet that's always sailing directly in to avoidable storms is an armada that's foolish to trust guide your cannons.
(i got into this really awesome show called Black Sails all about Pirates and the pirate port of Nassau in the Golden Age of Piracy and its all about alternative lifestyles and the spice trade and its really fucking good. you'd dig it. the women are awesome. yarr)
squeegee double-posted this 2 years ago, 7 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,238,744
@1,238,655 (J)
tteh sounds like kimmo, and you sound like an idiot, but who knows what the anonymous hivemind plots except the next storm. i doubt tteh IS kimmo, but the question of idiots remains to be seen.
squeegee replied with this 2 years ago, 3 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,238,761
@previous (J)
look, u just give off a vibe that says if you've ever touched a woman sexually there'd be pending rape charges, I'm not saying you're a rapist. it's just the vibe you give off. go force yourself on someone else. i'll say no. no, you're not fucking me.