Topic: 1940: the first rap song

Anonymous A started this discussion 2 years ago #111,412

This is really amazing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xij0RcW6FTA

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 8 minutes later[^] [v] #1,237,876

Maybe this was the first rap song

https://youtu.be/u9No8th4q90

Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 3 minutes later, 12 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,877

Stop watching Joe Rogan Podcast

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 45 seconds later, 13 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,878

@1,237,876 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Well, talking over music is nothing new. It has probably existed since ancient times (poetry). What makes rap rap is the lyrical elements, the beat, etc.

Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 47 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,891

@previous (A)
these are both examples of the same thing and it's not rap sorry

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,892

@previous (D)
The first is.

Anonymous D replied with this 2 years ago, 15 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,898

@previous (A)

> The first is.

why because they're black

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 19 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,905

@previous (D)
No, but thanks for asking. It is because the words have pitch and tone, they rhyme well, and they use syncopation, among other reasons.

Anonymous D replied with this 2 years ago, 12 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,911

@previous (A)
yeah I was just fucking with you buddy no sweat off my balls

Anonymous C replied with this 2 years ago, 1 hour later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,935

@1,237,905 (A)
rap borrowed from earlier artists, that doesn't retroactively make those artists rappers

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 34 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,939

@previous (C)
I Agree, but the 1940s one is actually rap.

Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 3 hours later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,971

@OP
Great song. I was immediately reminded of a song by Mobi -- Run on:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HevKfDyW8Nk

Once I listened to the song you posted, I thought Mobi sampled it, but turns out he sampled from a very similar sounding group: The Landfordaires:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDOMtOFaCys

Incidentally, The Jubalaires also covered the same folk song (possibly earlier than the Landfordaires):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4WOyladbcA

Anyway, I think it's a stretch to call this stuff "rap". I think that title still belongs to the Sugarhill Gang:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcCK99wHrk0

Anonymous E double-posted this 2 years ago, 40 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,972

@1,237,876 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> Maybe this was the first rap song
No it wasn't.

Anonymous C replied with this 2 years ago, 2 days later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,238,730

Rap: the music genre of theseus

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