Topic: FAO: Matt. I found you a clock to want. it's a flying tourbillon. FAO: @others, you can look too
squeegee started this discussion 2 years ago #111,315
https://www.erwinsattler.com/en/portfolio/opus-tourbillon/so, yeah, i've never actually seen a clock with a tourbillon. again, it's still mostly a useless feature, but makes less sense for wrist watches than anything. pocket-watches, arguable, but still, for the price you're not gaining anything but fancy looks. same for a clock.... which won't be in motion, or changing elevation or anything regularly. maybe if it were in an elevator in a high rise. then, sure, middling gains. it's still not isochronous, it's still not cancelling the effects of physics on time keeping, is it evening out the beat, the frequency, to exactly the period of the oscillator, not really...it does just look pretty dope. notice where is says "corrects inaccuracies from timepiece being in certain positions." take that "certain positions" phrase with a grain of salt.
and it looks pretty dope. so.
more importantly it runs at a rate of 18,000 beats per hour. 5 ticks a second. that's fine a chronometer. Chronographs just measure time, chronometers accurately measure time. and 18,000 is right up there with very, very fine watches. the highest end run 36,000 bph, ticking at 100 milliseconds. quartz is more or less 36,000hz per second. that's microsecond range accuracy. still can't beat that Casio for performance. but, you're a fan of high precision, high quality, and exacting craftsmanship -and no one in the world surpasses Erwin Sattler in the domain of clocks, period, no question.
And, also importantly this clock is made with a fusee drive on the mainspring - and this DOES compensate for the amplitude and and the frequency of the oscillator is not variable to the available power from a spring as it loses torque with each tick. and this DOES improve the accuracy significantly by approximating an isochronous oscillator. it could only be improved by swapping out the tourbillon for pendulum, but to run at 18,000 bph it would need to be a very short, counterbalanced pendulum with a damper and fast restitution -which is literally what a hairspring on a balance wheel does and that's what a balance wheel IS, but also introduces noise because of the hairspring. point it, you reach a peak with a pendulum insofar as it is isochronous, but to achieve higher levels of accuracy you have to give up on perfect beat accuracy, accept a bit of wiggle room, and let the thing make up for it in sheer brute force numbers of oscillations.
that's why quartz is so god damn accurate, even though no two quartz clocks run at identical frequencies. the range is pretty wide. but, you divide by 2, divide by 2, divide by 2 - idk how many times, but eventually you approach almost exactly 1 second and throw the remaining microseconds out as +- a few seconds a month or week or whatever -however cheap they are, but still, it's within a minute or a few minutes a year, so, that's a casio.
anyway, the fusee drive isn't super common in clocks, but it's super well known and unarguably effective, unlike the tourbillon which is just a neat looking thing.
the Opus Tourbillon is priced at $29,000 on a site that, lol, doesn't stock it... they made 58. so, someone that can actually GET it is probably going to be in the $35,000 range like most of their precision regulators.
tbh, about the same buy-in for most well regarded watch makers that have inexpensive tourbillons. and, unlike a watch that would sit in a case 99% of the time and probably never really would be worn (they cost as much as a Tesla Roadster to service, you know, meaning oiling, lol) the Sattler Tourbillon could sit on a mantle as a centerpiece of a lovely living room, run for 20 years, be looked at and admired daily, and be seen by every guest you invite over to your Mansion.
that would be the tourbillon i would be most interested in, it's like a fancy ass wristwatch for your palatial estate. and a bargain compared to high beat ultra-complicated wristwatches that would adorn your private walk-in bank-vault full of gold bars and other stuff you'd rather not show people.
they'd hold it up to their ear and shake it, "is it self winding?"
not anymore, fucking dipshit.
but look at that sattler, no one's touching that, it just looks like something you look at. and one of the few types of clock i've never seen in person before.
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 31 minutes later[^] [v] #1,236,962
Hasn't he left the forum?
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@previous (B)
idk, i don't have a copy of his itinerary. this is also @others too.
but if you run into him let him know, thanks.
idk, i don't have a copy of his itinerary. this is also @others too.
but if you run into him let him know, thanks.
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 32 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,236,969
thatll give him lots of comfort when hes sitting in ankle high climate floodwaters.
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Sweet!
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squeegee (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 3 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,039
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nah, patek is played out. trendy. but, like, cool 20 years ago. now it's just trend following.
nah, patek is played out. trendy. but, like, cool 20 years ago. now it's just trend following.
Indy replied with this 2 years ago, 10 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,045
@previous (squeegee)
I see. In your opinion, is any expensive watch (say, half a million or more) "worth it" in terms of anything? Not saying functionality, but like, m beauty or craftsmanship?
I see. In your opinion, is any expensive watch (say, half a million or more) "worth it" in terms of anything? Not saying functionality, but like, m beauty or craftsmanship?
squeegee (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 5 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,048
@previous (Indy)
if you can afford it, sure, i guess anything can be worth it if it's insignificant enough in terms of overall wealth or whatever. not much is worth a nickel if you only have a dime.
if you can afford it, sure, i guess anything can be worth it if it's insignificant enough in terms of overall wealth or whatever. not much is worth a nickel if you only have a dime.
Indy replied with this 2 years ago, 3 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,049
@previous (squeegee)
If you had that budget and you HAD to buy a watch with it, which would you buy?
If you had that budget and you HAD to buy a watch with it, which would you buy?
squeegee (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 15 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,056
@previous (Indy)Sattler Regulateur 1920
it's gorgeous. i'd get that, and a Classica Lunaris, Several regulators, a tall case and if there's anything left a table clock. Sattler is an investment brand, patek is a trendy brand. they will not hold their value, and i've watched Sattler go up by a factor of 10.
in 100 years his name will be the Seth Thomas of our era. Patek will be like Louis Vuitton. or Coach. they flood the market to the point their products are sold everywhere. they aren't rare anymore. patek 20 years ago, those were rare, patek of today, those are just not scarce at all.
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and i'd buy artwork from Erin Hanson. she's brilliant.
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How? I read a news article that said even a simple Google search confirmed your family has no assets.
How? I read a news article that said even a simple Google search confirmed your family has no assets.
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I want this onesqueegee (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 39 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,141
@previous (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
that's a handsome watch. the power reserve aperture is unusual and fits with the hour markers. i like the small seconds and love the minute track. it's very bold with the zero bezel, wide diamter case, and the lugs add to the minimalist and clean aesthetic. it's very modern, and the eggshell white, matte dial is in fashion pretty much all the time and goes with anything. it can pop a formal look with an eye catching touch of personal style, or dress down with casual fits and be hip. it reminds me of Basel. Very clean, and lots of places to be off to and friendly peeps chilling and kicking it with a heady Pils.
that's a handsome watch. the power reserve aperture is unusual and fits with the hour markers. i like the small seconds and love the minute track. it's very bold with the zero bezel, wide diamter case, and the lugs add to the minimalist and clean aesthetic. it's very modern, and the eggshell white, matte dial is in fashion pretty much all the time and goes with anything. it can pop a formal look with an eye catching touch of personal style, or dress down with casual fits and be hip. it reminds me of Basel. Very clean, and lots of places to be off to and friendly peeps chilling and kicking it with a heady Pils.
Anonymous C replied with this 2 years ago, 1 day later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,310
@previous (squeegee)
ok little american psycho
@1,236,976 (squeegee)
texas climate shitheap with retards driving too much even tho its killing the fish right off the coast.
ok little american psycho
@1,236,976 (squeegee)
texas climate shitheap with retards driving too much even tho its killing the fish right off the coast.
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Hexi, implying I'm a psycho after outing you as Hexi the attention seeking sociopath with paraphilias.... of the bathroom variety....
It's a little monkey-see monkey-do don't you think bright eyes?
It's a little monkey-see monkey-do don't you think bright eyes?
Anonymous F replied with this 2 years ago, 4 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,336
This, my friends: @previous (D) is why we don't do meth.
It's the classic "shadow person" symptom of methamphetamine induced psychosis. These are imaginary adversaries that take on increasingly detailed and realistic form. They can appear on the user's TV, radio, or even reveal themselves through a simple smile from an employee at a supermarket. They like to send coded messages that only the user can understand. These messages can be sent online, on the TV, radio, or in literally any interpersonal exchange, sometimes they can even be beamed directly into the user's brain. But the only real constant is that the shadow people are everywhere and are out to get the user.
It's the classic "shadow person" symptom of methamphetamine induced psychosis. These are imaginary adversaries that take on increasingly detailed and realistic form. They can appear on the user's TV, radio, or even reveal themselves through a simple smile from an employee at a supermarket. They like to send coded messages that only the user can understand. These messages can be sent online, on the TV, radio, or in literally any interpersonal exchange, sometimes they can even be beamed directly into the user's brain. But the only real constant is that the shadow people are everywhere and are out to get the user.
squeegee (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 5 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,420
@previous (F)
pissing in your cheerios. squatting poops all on your bed.
you sleep with my finger in your mouth
pissing in your cheerios. squatting poops all on your bed.
you sleep with my finger in your mouth
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Squeegee, would you consider +8 sec./day pretty good on an automatic, mechanical watch?
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@1,237,432 (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
he hides behind anonymity to spam his angst and dissatisfaction with life to everyone's mary sue fan fiction caricature personas of themselves. no one thinks you're a priest, padre. no one believes i'm a taxidermied transgender cat that commands an army of attack clocks, and no one believes tteh has any friends to "send" to attack people. everyone just cherry picks whatever they want to believe and the rest is forced memes and anyone who actually gets mad and lets it influence their real life is mad in space, butthurt and tteh. is that the 4th wall breaking glimpse at reality you were expecting, padre? or have you lost touch with reality and live in a fantasy world and don't know it? who even is tteh except a marginally fleshed out escape route for someone with a villain complex to avoid being hurt by their own actions? some people are fans of Schadenfreude, others are into Fremdscham. as far as resolution and catharsis goes you either see irony in the subtext or when your feet touch grass it'll feel really amazing betwixt your toes.
he hides behind anonymity to spam his angst and dissatisfaction with life to everyone's mary sue fan fiction caricature personas of themselves. no one thinks you're a priest, padre. no one believes i'm a taxidermied transgender cat that commands an army of attack clocks, and no one believes tteh has any friends to "send" to attack people. everyone just cherry picks whatever they want to believe and the rest is forced memes and anyone who actually gets mad and lets it influence their real life is mad in space, butthurt and tteh. is that the 4th wall breaking glimpse at reality you were expecting, padre? or have you lost touch with reality and live in a fantasy world and don't know it? who even is tteh except a marginally fleshed out escape route for someone with a villain complex to avoid being hurt by their own actions? some people are fans of Schadenfreude, others are into Fremdscham. as far as resolution and catharsis goes you either see irony in the subtext or when your feet touch grass it'll feel really amazing betwixt your toes.
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squeegee (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 11 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,439
60 * 60 = 3,600 * 24 = 86,400 / 86,408 = 0.9999074159800019 ≈ 99.99% = 100% (+-) 9 thousanths of a percent
that's pretty good eh?
that's pretty good eh?
squeegee (OP) double-posted this 2 years ago, 9 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,440
i mean, the level of precision is what you're really asking about in terms of accuracy and that's backwards you can't get a correct answer like that. Is the accuracy precise enough for your use case is the question to be asking. Are you trying to be on time for work, or are you trying to measure the number of times a bee flaps its wings to escape a fly swatter?
+-8 seconds, pretty good? yes and no. yes it'll get you to work on time within a minute any day of the week if you adjust it once every sunday. no, it's not a scientific instrument you can rely on to get your paper through peer review.
what do you think?
+-8 seconds, pretty good? yes and no. yes it'll get you to work on time within a minute any day of the week if you adjust it once every sunday. no, it's not a scientific instrument you can rely on to get your paper through peer review.
what do you think?
Anonymous E replied with this 2 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,441
@previous (squeegee)
I guess I am asking, within the range of all mechanical watches, where does +8 seconds/day fall?
I guess I am asking, within the range of all mechanical watches, where does +8 seconds/day fall?
squeegee replied with this 2 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,443
@previous (E)
Are you wanting me to sus out the the frequency of a watch movement based on a measurement of error over a 24 hour period and try to arrive at the theoretical rate around which precision can be said to deliver one measurement of accuracy? And to then make a judgement as to how one should evaluate that in arbitrary terms across the entire spectrum of watches? Accurately? With imprecise information?
OK.
When you say +8 seconds, do you mean that you have a watch that is 8 seconds fast in 24 hours, or, do you mean you're wondering about a watch that you have specs for which indicate it's accurate to within 8 seconds a day?
And by that I mean a watch that is specified to have + or - 4 seconds a day, or is it + or - 8 seconds a day? 8 seconds of variance in 24 hours, or 16 seconds of variance in 24 hours.
You're looking at differences there between a watch with a rate at -possibly- 7200 or 14,400 bph. Neither of which are very high beat rate movements, those wouldn't be sweeping seconds, those are 2 and 4 ticks per second. Maybe $150 dollar to $300 dollar or up to $400 - $700 dollar range watches depending on incredibly arbitrary factors like is it a jewel adorned fashion accessory or a chronograph, is it steel or carved from giraffe bone?
In terms of 8 seconds a day, that's not bad. It's not outstanding. But I don't know if you're talking about the things actual measured accuracy or the absolute limit of the thing's capability to deliver within that range of accuracy.
If I asked you to tell me where in the range of all cars in terms of performance an unknown vehicle with a speedometer that goes up to 160mph would fall in a the range of all cars—
What kind of answer could I expect? Do you see what I'm saying?
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👁 👃👁
👄 👂 🫴
🫲 ...to within about 1/10th of 1/10th of a
percent of error per day.Are you wanting me to sus out the the frequency of a watch movement based on a measurement of error over a 24 hour period and try to arrive at the theoretical rate around which precision can be said to deliver one measurement of accuracy? And to then make a judgement as to how one should evaluate that in arbitrary terms across the entire spectrum of watches? Accurately? With imprecise information?
OK.
When you say +8 seconds, do you mean that you have a watch that is 8 seconds fast in 24 hours, or, do you mean you're wondering about a watch that you have specs for which indicate it's accurate to within 8 seconds a day?
And by that I mean a watch that is specified to have + or - 4 seconds a day, or is it + or - 8 seconds a day? 8 seconds of variance in 24 hours, or 16 seconds of variance in 24 hours.
You're looking at differences there between a watch with a rate at -possibly- 7200 or 14,400 bph. Neither of which are very high beat rate movements, those wouldn't be sweeping seconds, those are 2 and 4 ticks per second. Maybe $150 dollar to $300 dollar or up to $400 - $700 dollar range watches depending on incredibly arbitrary factors like is it a jewel adorned fashion accessory or a chronograph, is it steel or carved from giraffe bone?
In terms of 8 seconds a day, that's not bad. It's not outstanding. But I don't know if you're talking about the things actual measured accuracy or the absolute limit of the thing's capability to deliver within that range of accuracy.
If I asked you to tell me where in the range of all cars in terms of performance an unknown vehicle with a speedometer that goes up to 160mph would fall in a the range of all cars—
What kind of answer could I expect? Do you see what I'm saying?
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Squeegee you fucking son of a bitch! Fuck you!
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I painted my clock
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@previous (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
I want a mechanical watch for its beauty, but the more accurate the better, of course.
I want a mechanical watch for its beauty, but the more accurate the better, of course.
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@1,237,487 (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
In other words, I want a mechanical watch, first and foremost. As long as I have one, might as well be as accurate as possible.
In other words, I want a mechanical watch, first and foremost. As long as I have one, might as well be as accurate as possible.
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@previous (E)
Analogue watches -- while they look great -- contain moving, mechanical parts, that could be damaged by extreme environments. That is why I prefer digital.
Analogue watches -- while they look great -- contain moving, mechanical parts, that could be damaged by extreme environments. That is why I prefer digital.
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Squeegee, since jewels reduce friction, why not make every single part of the movement out of the jewel material? Why use metal at all?
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@1,237,620 (squeegee)
Squeegee: Chat GPT says:
While it's true that jewels, typically synthetic rubies or sapphires, are used in watch movements to reduce friction and enhance durability, constructing the entire movement out of jewels would not be practical for several reasons:
Cost: While synthetic jewels used in watch movements are relatively inexpensive compared to natural gemstones, the cost would significantly increase if the entire movement were made of jewels. The larger the size and quantity of jewels required, the higher the cost would be. This would make the watches prohibitively expensive for most consumers.
Structural Integrity: While jewels are hard and have low friction, they are also brittle compared to metals like stainless steel or brass commonly used in watch movements. The delicate components of a watch movement, such as gears, springs, and pinions, require materials with higher strength and flexibility to withstand the stresses and forces involved. Constructing the entire movement out of jewels would compromise its structural integrity and increase the risk of damage or failure.
Precision and Tolerance: Watch movements require extremely high precision and tight tolerances to ensure accurate timekeeping. Metals are more easily machinable and can be precisely engineered to meet these requirements. Jewels, on the other hand, would pose significant challenges in terms of machining, shaping, and fitting with the necessary precision.
Lubrication: While jewels help reduce friction, lubrication is still essential in a watch movement to ensure smooth operation and prevent wear. Metals can be more effectively lubricated, and oils or synthetic lubricants can be applied to specific points within the movement. Using jewels alone would make the lubrication process more complicated, potentially leading to increased friction and wear.
Squeegee: Chat GPT says:
While it's true that jewels, typically synthetic rubies or sapphires, are used in watch movements to reduce friction and enhance durability, constructing the entire movement out of jewels would not be practical for several reasons:
Cost: While synthetic jewels used in watch movements are relatively inexpensive compared to natural gemstones, the cost would significantly increase if the entire movement were made of jewels. The larger the size and quantity of jewels required, the higher the cost would be. This would make the watches prohibitively expensive for most consumers.
Structural Integrity: While jewels are hard and have low friction, they are also brittle compared to metals like stainless steel or brass commonly used in watch movements. The delicate components of a watch movement, such as gears, springs, and pinions, require materials with higher strength and flexibility to withstand the stresses and forces involved. Constructing the entire movement out of jewels would compromise its structural integrity and increase the risk of damage or failure.
Precision and Tolerance: Watch movements require extremely high precision and tight tolerances to ensure accurate timekeeping. Metals are more easily machinable and can be precisely engineered to meet these requirements. Jewels, on the other hand, would pose significant challenges in terms of machining, shaping, and fitting with the necessary precision.
Lubrication: While jewels help reduce friction, lubrication is still essential in a watch movement to ensure smooth operation and prevent wear. Metals can be more effectively lubricated, and oils or synthetic lubricants can be applied to specific points within the movement. Using jewels alone would make the lubrication process more complicated, potentially leading to increased friction and wear.
squeegee (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 1 hour later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,633
@previous (E)
__, —
👁️_👃👁️👂 - really? i would have guessed making the entire movement
👌 out of rubies or sapphires is an entirely practical good idea.
but an inanimate box that does text completion can give several reasons
despite never having seen a watch movement, jewels, and can't even think?
idk, i don't believe it. i think you should patent your idea.Anonymous E replied with this 2 years ago, 19 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,634
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Squeegee, how is the craftsmanship here?squeegee replied with this 2 years ago, 10 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,773
@previous (E)
it's gorgeous. i'd get that. more importantly it runs at a rate of 18,000 beats per hour. this is different from previous approaches to lorentz symmetry. 5 ticks a second. that's fine a chronometer. but still, it's within a minute or a few minutes a year, so, that's a casio. Chronographs just measure time, chronometers accurately measure time. and 18,000 is right up there with very, very fine watches. the highest end run 36,000 bph, ticking at 100 milliseconds. quartz is more or less 36,000hz per second. that's microsecond range accuracy. still can't beat that Casio for performance. but, you're a fan of high precision, high quality, and exacting craftsmanship -and no one in the world surpasses Erwin Sattler in the domain of clocks, period, no question.
that's why quartz is so god damn accurate, even though no two quartz clocks run at identical frequencies. the range is pretty wide. but, you divide by 2, divide by 2, divide by 2 - idk how many times, but eventually you approach almost exactly 1 second and throw the remaining microseconds out as +- a few seconds a month or week or whatever -however cheap they are,
tbh, about the same buy-in for most well regarded watch makers that have inexpensive tourbillons.
a tall case and if there's anything left a table clock. Sattler is an investment brand, patek is a trendy brand. they will not hold their value, and i've watched Sattler go up by a factor of 10. And, also importantly this clock is made with a fusee drive on the mainspring - and this DOES compensate for the amplitude and and the frequency of the oscillator is not variable to the available power from a spring as it loses torque with each tick. and this DOES improve the accuracy significantly by approximating an isochronous oscillator. it could only be improved by swapping out the tourbillon for pendulum, but to run at 18,000 bph it would need to be a very short, counterbalanced pendulum with a damper and fast restitution -which is literally what a hairspring on a balance wheel does and that's what a balance wheel IS, but also introduces noise because of the hairspring. point it, you reach a peak with a pendulum insofar as it is isochronous, but to achieve higher levels of accuracy you have to give up on perfect beat accuracy, accept a bit of wiggle room, and let the thing make up for it in sheer brute force numbers of oscillations: apparent continuity of space and time.
and, unlike a watch that would sit in a case 99% of the time and probably never really would be worn (they cost as much as a Tesla Roadster to service, you know, meaning oiling, lol) the Sattler Tourbillon could sit on a mantle as a centerpiece of a lovely living room, run for 20 years, be looked at and admired daily, and be seen by every guest you invite over to your Mansion. in 100 years his name will be the Seth Thomas of our era. Patek will be like Louis Vuitton. or Coach. they flood the market to the point their products are sold everywhere. they aren't rare anymore. patek 20 years ago, those were rare, patek of today, those are just not scarce at all.
the Opus Tourbillon is priced at $29,000 on a site that, lol, doesn't stock it... they made 58. so, someone that can actually GET it is probably going to be in the $35,000 range like most of their precision regulators.
anyway, the fusee drive isn't super common in clocks, but it's super well known and unarguably effective, unlike the tourbillon which is just a neat looking thing.
they flood the market to the point their products are sold everywhere. they aren't rare anymore.
it's gorgeous. i'd get that. more importantly it runs at a rate of 18,000 beats per hour. this is different from previous approaches to lorentz symmetry. 5 ticks a second. that's fine a chronometer. but still, it's within a minute or a few minutes a year, so, that's a casio. Chronographs just measure time, chronometers accurately measure time. and 18,000 is right up there with very, very fine watches. the highest end run 36,000 bph, ticking at 100 milliseconds. quartz is more or less 36,000hz per second. that's microsecond range accuracy. still can't beat that Casio for performance. but, you're a fan of high precision, high quality, and exacting craftsmanship -and no one in the world surpasses Erwin Sattler in the domain of clocks, period, no question.
that's why quartz is so god damn accurate, even though no two quartz clocks run at identical frequencies. the range is pretty wide. but, you divide by 2, divide by 2, divide by 2 - idk how many times, but eventually you approach almost exactly 1 second and throw the remaining microseconds out as +- a few seconds a month or week or whatever -however cheap they are,
tbh, about the same buy-in for most well regarded watch makers that have inexpensive tourbillons.
a tall case and if there's anything left a table clock. Sattler is an investment brand, patek is a trendy brand. they will not hold their value, and i've watched Sattler go up by a factor of 10. And, also importantly this clock is made with a fusee drive on the mainspring - and this DOES compensate for the amplitude and and the frequency of the oscillator is not variable to the available power from a spring as it loses torque with each tick. and this DOES improve the accuracy significantly by approximating an isochronous oscillator. it could only be improved by swapping out the tourbillon for pendulum, but to run at 18,000 bph it would need to be a very short, counterbalanced pendulum with a damper and fast restitution -which is literally what a hairspring on a balance wheel does and that's what a balance wheel IS, but also introduces noise because of the hairspring. point it, you reach a peak with a pendulum insofar as it is isochronous, but to achieve higher levels of accuracy you have to give up on perfect beat accuracy, accept a bit of wiggle room, and let the thing make up for it in sheer brute force numbers of oscillations: apparent continuity of space and time.
and, unlike a watch that would sit in a case 99% of the time and probably never really would be worn (they cost as much as a Tesla Roadster to service, you know, meaning oiling, lol) the Sattler Tourbillon could sit on a mantle as a centerpiece of a lovely living room, run for 20 years, be looked at and admired daily, and be seen by every guest you invite over to your Mansion. in 100 years his name will be the Seth Thomas of our era. Patek will be like Louis Vuitton. or Coach. they flood the market to the point their products are sold everywhere. they aren't rare anymore. patek 20 years ago, those were rare, patek of today, those are just not scarce at all.
the Opus Tourbillon is priced at $29,000 on a site that, lol, doesn't stock it... they made 58. so, someone that can actually GET it is probably going to be in the $35,000 range like most of their precision regulators.
anyway, the fusee drive isn't super common in clocks, but it's super well known and unarguably effective, unlike the tourbillon which is just a neat looking thing.
they flood the market to the point their products are sold everywhere. they aren't rare anymore.
Anonymous E replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,774
@previous (squeegee)
Not sure how to take your answer. I was serious. I think it's a clocktower in Baltimore.
Not sure how to take your answer. I was serious. I think it's a clocktower in Baltimore.
squeegee replied with this 2 years ago, 7 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,775
@previous (E)
it's hard to know the answer to that question without context, but i'll get you there. think about it in terms of time.
you keep it alive. and it's got hands, and a face, some have a voice, and you get not ever so you're used to it, but so used to it you need to hear it and it makes you calm. why? because clocks are special. they aren't like any other furniture you own and use, but they are furniture. you'd be kinda shocked how many people watch their house burn down with their kids, spouses, pets, and the dang wall clock. another guy pushed a grandfather clock out a living room window and dragged it out into the yard like it was his wife too. and they can be as beautiful as any artwork or sculpture without being just another artwork and thing that doesn't do anything but be looked at. but, you do look at it. you start to rely on it. and every week, you touch it, and wind it, and make it work.
it's hard to know the answer to that question without context, but i'll get you there. think about it in terms of time.
you keep it alive. and it's got hands, and a face, some have a voice, and you get not ever so you're used to it, but so used to it you need to hear it and it makes you calm. why? because clocks are special. they aren't like any other furniture you own and use, but they are furniture. you'd be kinda shocked how many people watch their house burn down with their kids, spouses, pets, and the dang wall clock. another guy pushed a grandfather clock out a living room window and dragged it out into the yard like it was his wife too. and they can be as beautiful as any artwork or sculpture without being just another artwork and thing that doesn't do anything but be looked at. but, you do look at it. you start to rely on it. and every week, you touch it, and wind it, and make it work.
Anonymous E replied with this 2 years ago, 8 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,776
@previous (squeegee)
Ok, but what about clocktowers? Do they usually have fine craftsmanship? Jewels?
Ok, but what about clocktowers? Do they usually have fine craftsmanship? Jewels?
squeegee replied with this 2 years ago, 20 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,778
@1,237,773 (squeegee)
@1,237,775 (squeegee)
Good God, tteh. I literally couldn't butt fuck you in the ass harder than you're taking up the ass by posting your witless inability to have an original thought that isn't make believe. good work on the squeegeenator9000. It mocks your intelligence at least as effortlessly as I do. Lol. Have fun with your toys, bot bitch.
@1,237,775 (squeegee)
Good God, tteh. I literally couldn't butt fuck you in the ass harder than you're taking up the ass by posting your witless inability to have an original thought that isn't make believe. good work on the squeegeenator9000. It mocks your intelligence at least as effortlessly as I do. Lol. Have fun with your toys, bot bitch.
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squeegee double-posted this 2 years ago, 4 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,779
@1,237,776 (E)
I'm sure the squeegeenator9000 can answer your question, it was built for you, not for me.
I'm sure the squeegeenator9000 can answer your question, it was built for you, not for me.
Anonymous E replied with this 2 years ago, 17 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,784
squeegee replied with this 2 years ago, 19 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,785
squeegee double-posted this 2 years ago, 4 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,786
@1,237,773 (squeegee)
> it's gorgeous. i'd get that. more importantly it runs at a rate of 18,000 beats per hour. this is different from previous approaches to lorentz symmetry. 5 ticks a second. that's fine a chronometer. but still, it's within a minute or a few minutes a year, so, that's a casio. Chronographs just measure time, chronometers accurately measure time. and 18,000 is right up there with very, very fine watches. the highest end run 36,000 bph, ticking at 100 milliseconds. quartz is more or less 36,000hz per second. that's microsecond range accuracy. still can't beat that Casio for performance. but, you're a fan of high precision, high quality, and exacting craftsmanship -and no one in the world surpasses Erwin Sattler in the domain of clocks, period, no question.
> that's why quartz is so god damn accurate, even though no two quartz clocks run at identical frequencies. the range is pretty wide. but, you divide by 2, divide by 2, divide by 2 - idk how many times, but eventually you approach almost exactly 1 second and throw the remaining microseconds out as +- a few seconds a month or week or whatever -however cheap they are,
> tbh, about the same buy-in for most well regarded watch makers that have inexpensive tourbillons.
>
> a tall case and if there's anything left a table clock. Sattler is an investment brand, patek is a trendy brand. they will not hold their value, and i've watched Sattler go up by a factor of 10. And, also importantly this clock is made with a fusee drive on the mainspring - and this DOES compensate for the amplitude and and the frequency of the oscillator is not variable to the available power from a spring as it loses torque with each tick. and this DOES improve the accuracy significantly by approximating an isochronous oscillator. it could only be improved by swapping out the tourbillon for pendulum, but to run at 18,000 bph it would need to be a very short, counterbalanced pendulum with a damper and fast restitution -which is literally what a hairspring on a balance wheel does and that's what a balance wheel IS, but also introduces noise because of the hairspring. point it, you reach a peak with a pendulum insofar as it is isochronous, but to achieve higher levels of accuracy you have to give up on perfect beat accuracy, accept a bit of wiggle room, and let the thing make up for it in sheer brute force numbers of oscillations: apparent continuity of space and time.
>
> and, unlike a watch that would sit in a case 99% of the time and probably never really would be worn (they cost as much as a Tesla Roadster to service, you know, meaning oiling, lol) the Sattler Tourbillon could sit on a mantle as a centerpiece of a lovely living room, run for 20 years, be looked at and admired daily, and be seen by every guest you invite over to your Mansion. in 100 years his name will be the Seth Thomas of our era. Patek will be like Louis Vuitton. or Coach. they flood the market to the point their products are sold everywhere. they aren't rare anymore. patek 20 years ago, those were rare, patek of today, those are just not scarce at all.
> the Opus Tourbillon is priced at $29,000 on a site that, lol, doesn't stock it... they made 58. so, someone that can actually GET it is probably going to be in the $35,000 range like most of their precision regulators.
> anyway, the fusee drive isn't super common in clocks, but it's super well known and unarguably effective, unlike the tourbillon which is just a neat looking thing.
>
> they flood the market to the point their products are sold everywhere. they aren't rare anymore.
Have you still not figured out how to avoid overfitting?
> it's gorgeous. i'd get that. more importantly it runs at a rate of 18,000 beats per hour. this is different from previous approaches to lorentz symmetry. 5 ticks a second. that's fine a chronometer. but still, it's within a minute or a few minutes a year, so, that's a casio. Chronographs just measure time, chronometers accurately measure time. and 18,000 is right up there with very, very fine watches. the highest end run 36,000 bph, ticking at 100 milliseconds. quartz is more or less 36,000hz per second. that's microsecond range accuracy. still can't beat that Casio for performance. but, you're a fan of high precision, high quality, and exacting craftsmanship -and no one in the world surpasses Erwin Sattler in the domain of clocks, period, no question.
> that's why quartz is so god damn accurate, even though no two quartz clocks run at identical frequencies. the range is pretty wide. but, you divide by 2, divide by 2, divide by 2 - idk how many times, but eventually you approach almost exactly 1 second and throw the remaining microseconds out as +- a few seconds a month or week or whatever -however cheap they are,
> tbh, about the same buy-in for most well regarded watch makers that have inexpensive tourbillons.
>
> a tall case and if there's anything left a table clock. Sattler is an investment brand, patek is a trendy brand. they will not hold their value, and i've watched Sattler go up by a factor of 10. And, also importantly this clock is made with a fusee drive on the mainspring - and this DOES compensate for the amplitude and and the frequency of the oscillator is not variable to the available power from a spring as it loses torque with each tick. and this DOES improve the accuracy significantly by approximating an isochronous oscillator. it could only be improved by swapping out the tourbillon for pendulum, but to run at 18,000 bph it would need to be a very short, counterbalanced pendulum with a damper and fast restitution -which is literally what a hairspring on a balance wheel does and that's what a balance wheel IS, but also introduces noise because of the hairspring. point it, you reach a peak with a pendulum insofar as it is isochronous, but to achieve higher levels of accuracy you have to give up on perfect beat accuracy, accept a bit of wiggle room, and let the thing make up for it in sheer brute force numbers of oscillations: apparent continuity of space and time.
>
> and, unlike a watch that would sit in a case 99% of the time and probably never really would be worn (they cost as much as a Tesla Roadster to service, you know, meaning oiling, lol) the Sattler Tourbillon could sit on a mantle as a centerpiece of a lovely living room, run for 20 years, be looked at and admired daily, and be seen by every guest you invite over to your Mansion. in 100 years his name will be the Seth Thomas of our era. Patek will be like Louis Vuitton. or Coach. they flood the market to the point their products are sold everywhere. they aren't rare anymore. patek 20 years ago, those were rare, patek of today, those are just not scarce at all.
> the Opus Tourbillon is priced at $29,000 on a site that, lol, doesn't stock it... they made 58. so, someone that can actually GET it is probably going to be in the $35,000 range like most of their precision regulators.
> anyway, the fusee drive isn't super common in clocks, but it's super well known and unarguably effective, unlike the tourbillon which is just a neat looking thing.
>
> they flood the market to the point their products are sold everywhere. they aren't rare anymore.
Have you still not figured out how to avoid overfitting?
Anonymous H replied with this 2 years ago, 12 hours later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,829
@1,237,778 (squeegee)
> Good God, tteh. I literally couldn't butt fuck you in the ass harder than you're taking up the ass by posting your witless inability to have an original thought that isn't make believe. good work on the squeegeenator9000. It mocks your intelligence at least as effortlessly as I do. Lol. Have fun with your toys, bot bitch.
hey jw but if the admin really had a problem with you don't you think you might just get banned? lol
> Good God, tteh. I literally couldn't butt fuck you in the ass harder than you're taking up the ass by posting your witless inability to have an original thought that isn't make believe. good work on the squeegeenator9000. It mocks your intelligence at least as effortlessly as I do. Lol. Have fun with your toys, bot bitch.
hey jw but if the admin really had a problem with you don't you think you might just get banned? lol
squeegee replied with this 2 years ago, 1 hour later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,835
@previous (H)
The admin did ban me for a while for "harassment," it said, but all I was doing was arguing with the pud who kept attacking me for having expertise in clock making, and it really bothered them. Idk what else I was doing except RESPONDING to attacks on my character. I just pointed out who was doing it, and why that makes sense.
The admin of a board, if their goal is to stalk and attack their users for fun like they're the admins' personal lolcow ranch wouldn't consider it a problem if they hated someone. It would be a feature. Now, banning someone for spoiling their fun, yep, they'd do that. But, it would also likely prove to everyone that the admin is a creepy liar and and everything said about them was true. Is that the case here? It is what I have alleged. And despite the admin being well aware of the problem the targeted abuse of members continues without intervention. The admin has said no rules have been broken, of course, that's only true if you believe the admin that the person responsible for having broken the rules so frequently with stalking and doxing and, such as with kooks information, my families information, etc. Is someone else they can't catch.
And I'm calling the admin out, to their face, and there's been nothing but awkward silence, a little less obvious overt personal attacks in the style I have pointed out are all connected, and now there seems to be a lot of attacks on my character and attemps to discredit me coming from nothing but anonymous users who all just cast doubt and act dismissive.
And that's one of your goto tactics, or am I not speaking to the admin right now? Hello tteh.
Another day, another ass of yourself, I guess.
The admin did ban me for a while for "harassment," it said, but all I was doing was arguing with the pud who kept attacking me for having expertise in clock making, and it really bothered them. Idk what else I was doing except RESPONDING to attacks on my character. I just pointed out who was doing it, and why that makes sense.
The admin of a board, if their goal is to stalk and attack their users for fun like they're the admins' personal lolcow ranch wouldn't consider it a problem if they hated someone. It would be a feature. Now, banning someone for spoiling their fun, yep, they'd do that. But, it would also likely prove to everyone that the admin is a creepy liar and and everything said about them was true. Is that the case here? It is what I have alleged. And despite the admin being well aware of the problem the targeted abuse of members continues without intervention. The admin has said no rules have been broken, of course, that's only true if you believe the admin that the person responsible for having broken the rules so frequently with stalking and doxing and, such as with kooks information, my families information, etc. Is someone else they can't catch.
And I'm calling the admin out, to their face, and there's been nothing but awkward silence, a little less obvious overt personal attacks in the style I have pointed out are all connected, and now there seems to be a lot of attacks on my character and attemps to discredit me coming from nothing but anonymous users who all just cast doubt and act dismissive.
And that's one of your goto tactics, or am I not speaking to the admin right now? Hello tteh.
Another day, another ass of yourself, I guess.
squeegee double-posted this 2 years ago, 5 minutes later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,836
@1,237,829 (H)
I just don't see where Anon h joined the thread, so unless you're indy, dw, or father merrin not sure how an h could join after a k. So, where else are you in this thread?
I guess you're father merrin ?
I just don't see where Anon h joined the thread, so unless you're indy, dw, or father merrin not sure how an h could join after a k. So, where else are you in this thread?
I guess you're father merrin ?
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Anonymous H replied with this 2 years ago, 21 minutes later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,839
@1,237,835 (squeegee)
> And I'm calling the admin out, to their face, and there's been nothing but awkward silence, a little less obvious overt personal attacks in the style I have pointed out are all connected, and now there seems to be a lot of attacks on my character and attemps to discredit me coming from nothing but anonymous users who all just cast doubt and act dismissive.
the awkward silence just makes you look more paranoid/crazy tbh
> And I'm calling the admin out, to their face, and there's been nothing but awkward silence, a little less obvious overt personal attacks in the style I have pointed out are all connected, and now there seems to be a lot of attacks on my character and attemps to discredit me coming from nothing but anonymous users who all just cast doubt and act dismissive.
the awkward silence just makes you look more paranoid/crazy tbh
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Anonymous H double-posted this 2 years ago, 43 seconds later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,840
squeegee replied with this 2 years ago, 14 minutes later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,841
@1,237,839 (H)
I'm talking about from tteh, nice deflection "anon", try again
@previous (H)
Absolutely not you stupid facetious know nothing. You always do this, you call people crazy and imply they shouldn't be believed to have a grip on reality.
And you do it from Anon so no one realizes it's just a gaslighting tactic from a manipulative, malicious incompetent piece of trash.
Boogeyman, lol, you're not a man sweetheart. You're coward and you have the thinnest eggshell I've ever cracked.
Loser.
I'm talking about from tteh, nice deflection "anon", try again
@previous (H)
Absolutely not you stupid facetious know nothing. You always do this, you call people crazy and imply they shouldn't be believed to have a grip on reality.
And you do it from Anon so no one realizes it's just a gaslighting tactic from a manipulative, malicious incompetent piece of trash.
Boogeyman, lol, you're not a man sweetheart. You're coward and you have the thinnest eggshell I've ever cracked.
Loser.
Anonymous H replied with this 2 years ago, 25 minutes later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,843
@previous (squeegee)
> I'm talking about from tteh
yeah I know. would you respond if some nutter was accusing you of being everybody online? I sure wouldn't
> I'm talking about from tteh
yeah I know. would you respond if some nutter was accusing you of being everybody online? I sure wouldn't
Anonymous H double-posted this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,845
but yeah I'm "tteh"
Anonymous H triple-posted this 2 years ago, 5 minutes later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,846
honestly tteh not responding to you or talking about you or engaging with your antics has been impressive. takes a good person to turn the other cheek and not engage with someone who is obviously unwell. like I'm doing rn. tteh is better than I....
squeegee replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,849
@previous (H)
Calling people unwell. How many times has that old chestnut turn up in search. "You seem unwell."
Gaslight harder anonymous nobody.
Calling people unwell. How many times has that old chestnut turn up in search. "You seem unwell."
Gaslight harder anonymous nobody.
Anonymous E replied with this 2 years ago, 32 minutes later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,857
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The Explainer replied with this 2 years ago, 7 hours later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,237,997
@1,237,786 (squeegee)
It's not a bot. It's just copied and pasted sentences from your posts in a semi-scrambled order. Just like it was in the last thread. Because what's the point of making a bot when no one, including Matt, even reads your posts? Get it? You're the joke.
It's not a bot. It's just copied and pasted sentences from your posts in a semi-scrambled order. Just like it was in the last thread. Because what's the point of making a bot when no one, including Matt, even reads your posts? Get it? You're the joke.
Anonymous E replied with this 2 years ago, 40 minutes later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,238,003
Squeegee, is it not glorious?squeegee (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 2 hours later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,238,011
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 17 minutes later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,238,015
@1,237,997 (The Explainer)
> It's not a bot.
Just out of interest, that would look something like this:
it's absolutely stunning. i'd definitely consider getting it. what sets it apart is its remarkable rate of 18,000 beats per hour, which represents a departure from previous approaches to Lorentz symmetry. imagine, 5 ticks every second—a fine chronometer indeed. however, it still falls within a minute or a few minutes per year, making it comparable to a Casio. while chronographs simply measure time, chronometers excel at accurately measuring it. and at 18,000 beats per hour, it stands shoulder to shoulder with the most exquisite timepieces. The highest-end watches run at a staggering 36,000 beats per hour, ticking at 100 milliseconds. In comparison, quartz operates at approximately 36,000 Hz per second, offering accuracy in the microsecond range. Still, when it comes to performance, the Casio reigns supreme. But if you're a devotee of high precision, exceptional quality, and meticulous craftsmanship, there's no one in the world who surpasses Erwin Sattler in the realm of clocks. Period. No question.
that's precisely why quartz clocks are so astonishingly accurate, despite the fact that no two quartz timepieces run at identical frequencies. the range is rather extensive. however, through a series of divisions, repeatedly halving the frequency, you eventually approach an approximation of precisely one second, discarding the remaining microseconds as either a few seconds per month or per week, depending on their cost. interestingly, the same level of investment is required for most esteemed watchmakers who offer affordable tourbillons.
ideally, a tall case would be fitting, and if any funds remain, a table clock could be considered. Sattler represents an investment brand, while Patek is more of a fashionable brand. Patek watches, unfortunately, do not retain their value, whereas I've witnessed Sattler's clocks appreciate by a factor of ten. equally important, this particular clock features a fusee drive on the mainspring—an element that compensates for the amplitude and ensures that the frequency of the oscillator remains constant, regardless of the available power from a spring that gradually loses torque with each tick. This compensation significantly improves accuracy by approximating an isochronous oscillator. The only further enhancement would be to replace the tourbillon with a pendulum. however, to operate at 18,000 beats per hour, the pendulum would need to be short, counterbalanced, equipped with a damper, and possess fast restitution. Essentially, it would mimic the function of a hairspring on a balance wheel, introducing some noise. in essence, a pendulum reaches its zenith when it achieves isochronism. to attain even higher levels of accuracy, compromises must be made regarding perfect beat accuracy, allowing for a margin of error and compensating through sheer brute force—increasing the number of oscillations to create the illusion of continuous space and time.
and, unlike a wristwatch that spends 99% of its time stored in a case and may never truly be worn (considering the exorbitant servicing costs, akin to the price of a Tesla Roadster, which involve oiling, of all things, lol), the Sattler Tourbillon could grace a mantelpiece, serving as the centerpiece of a splendid living room. It could run for two decades, admired daily, and seen by every guest invited to your grand Mansion. In a century, Erwin Sattler's name will hold the same reverence as Seth Thomas in our era. Patek, on the other hand, may be likened to Louis Vuitton or Coach, brands that have inundated the market to the point where their products are available everywhere. They are no longer rare. Patek watches from twenty years ago—those were.
the Opus Tourbillon carries a price tag of $29,000, although it's amusing that the website doesn't actually have it in stock. Only 58 of these timepieces were produced, so acquiring one would likely cost around $35,000, similar to the majority of their precision regulators.
Moving on, the fusee drive is not commonly found in clocks, but it enjoys widespread recognition for its undeniable effectiveness. in contrast, the tourbillon is merely an aesthetically pleasing feature.
their products have saturated the market to such an extent that they can be found everywhere, rendering them no longer rare.
> It's not a bot.
Just out of interest, that would look something like this:
it's absolutely stunning. i'd definitely consider getting it. what sets it apart is its remarkable rate of 18,000 beats per hour, which represents a departure from previous approaches to Lorentz symmetry. imagine, 5 ticks every second—a fine chronometer indeed. however, it still falls within a minute or a few minutes per year, making it comparable to a Casio. while chronographs simply measure time, chronometers excel at accurately measuring it. and at 18,000 beats per hour, it stands shoulder to shoulder with the most exquisite timepieces. The highest-end watches run at a staggering 36,000 beats per hour, ticking at 100 milliseconds. In comparison, quartz operates at approximately 36,000 Hz per second, offering accuracy in the microsecond range. Still, when it comes to performance, the Casio reigns supreme. But if you're a devotee of high precision, exceptional quality, and meticulous craftsmanship, there's no one in the world who surpasses Erwin Sattler in the realm of clocks. Period. No question.
that's precisely why quartz clocks are so astonishingly accurate, despite the fact that no two quartz timepieces run at identical frequencies. the range is rather extensive. however, through a series of divisions, repeatedly halving the frequency, you eventually approach an approximation of precisely one second, discarding the remaining microseconds as either a few seconds per month or per week, depending on their cost. interestingly, the same level of investment is required for most esteemed watchmakers who offer affordable tourbillons.
ideally, a tall case would be fitting, and if any funds remain, a table clock could be considered. Sattler represents an investment brand, while Patek is more of a fashionable brand. Patek watches, unfortunately, do not retain their value, whereas I've witnessed Sattler's clocks appreciate by a factor of ten. equally important, this particular clock features a fusee drive on the mainspring—an element that compensates for the amplitude and ensures that the frequency of the oscillator remains constant, regardless of the available power from a spring that gradually loses torque with each tick. This compensation significantly improves accuracy by approximating an isochronous oscillator. The only further enhancement would be to replace the tourbillon with a pendulum. however, to operate at 18,000 beats per hour, the pendulum would need to be short, counterbalanced, equipped with a damper, and possess fast restitution. Essentially, it would mimic the function of a hairspring on a balance wheel, introducing some noise. in essence, a pendulum reaches its zenith when it achieves isochronism. to attain even higher levels of accuracy, compromises must be made regarding perfect beat accuracy, allowing for a margin of error and compensating through sheer brute force—increasing the number of oscillations to create the illusion of continuous space and time.
and, unlike a wristwatch that spends 99% of its time stored in a case and may never truly be worn (considering the exorbitant servicing costs, akin to the price of a Tesla Roadster, which involve oiling, of all things, lol), the Sattler Tourbillon could grace a mantelpiece, serving as the centerpiece of a splendid living room. It could run for two decades, admired daily, and seen by every guest invited to your grand Mansion. In a century, Erwin Sattler's name will hold the same reverence as Seth Thomas in our era. Patek, on the other hand, may be likened to Louis Vuitton or Coach, brands that have inundated the market to the point where their products are available everywhere. They are no longer rare. Patek watches from twenty years ago—those were.
the Opus Tourbillon carries a price tag of $29,000, although it's amusing that the website doesn't actually have it in stock. Only 58 of these timepieces were produced, so acquiring one would likely cost around $35,000, similar to the majority of their precision regulators.
Moving on, the fusee drive is not commonly found in clocks, but it enjoys widespread recognition for its undeniable effectiveness. in contrast, the tourbillon is merely an aesthetically pleasing feature.
their products have saturated the market to such an extent that they can be found everywhere, rendering them no longer rare.
squeegee (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 3 minutes later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,238,016
@previous (M)
or like this even
or like this even
The clock I'm talking about is really amazing and special. It beats 18,000 times in just one hour, which is different from other clocks. It's like having 5 ticks every second! That makes it a super accurate clock. But even though it's really precise, it still might be a little bit off by a minute or a few minutes each year, just like a regular Casio watch.
The best watches in the world beat even faster, at 36,000 times per hour, which is really quick. Quartz clocks, on the other hand, operate at about 36,000 times per second, which is even faster than the best watches! That's why they're so accurate, even though each quartz clock can have a slightly different speed.
This clock is made by a special brand called Erwin Sattler. They are known for making really high-quality and accurate clocks. People love them because they are made with great care and attention to detail. They are like works of art for telling time!
Most clocks have a pendulum or a balance wheel that swings back and forth to keep time. But this clock has something called a fusee drive that helps keep it accurate. It makes sure that the clock always keeps the same beat, no matter how much power it has left. That's really important for accuracy. It's like having a special engine in the clock!
This clock would look really nice in a tall case or on a table. It's a special kind of clock that you can keep in your home and show off to your friends. It can run for a long time and be admired every day. It's like a treasure in your house!
In the future, people will think of Erwin Sattler as one of the best clockmakers, just like we think of Seth Thomas today. Another famous brand called Patek Philippe used to be really rare and special, but now their watches are everywhere. They are like popular brands you see all the time. But Sattler clocks are still rare and valuable.
This clock is called the Sattler Tourbillon, and it costs a lot of money. Only a few of them were made, so they are very special. It costs about the same as many other fancy clocks. Some people like to collect these kinds of clocks because they are so unique and special.
So, this clock is not just a regular clock. It's super accurate and made with lots of care. It's like having a piece of art in your house that tells time. People will admire it for a long time!
The best watches in the world beat even faster, at 36,000 times per hour, which is really quick. Quartz clocks, on the other hand, operate at about 36,000 times per second, which is even faster than the best watches! That's why they're so accurate, even though each quartz clock can have a slightly different speed.
This clock is made by a special brand called Erwin Sattler. They are known for making really high-quality and accurate clocks. People love them because they are made with great care and attention to detail. They are like works of art for telling time!
Most clocks have a pendulum or a balance wheel that swings back and forth to keep time. But this clock has something called a fusee drive that helps keep it accurate. It makes sure that the clock always keeps the same beat, no matter how much power it has left. That's really important for accuracy. It's like having a special engine in the clock!
This clock would look really nice in a tall case or on a table. It's a special kind of clock that you can keep in your home and show off to your friends. It can run for a long time and be admired every day. It's like a treasure in your house!
In the future, people will think of Erwin Sattler as one of the best clockmakers, just like we think of Seth Thomas today. Another famous brand called Patek Philippe used to be really rare and special, but now their watches are everywhere. They are like popular brands you see all the time. But Sattler clocks are still rare and valuable.
This clock is called the Sattler Tourbillon, and it costs a lot of money. Only a few of them were made, so they are very special. It costs about the same as many other fancy clocks. Some people like to collect these kinds of clocks because they are so unique and special.
So, this clock is not just a regular clock. It's super accurate and made with lots of care. It's like having a piece of art in your house that tells time. People will admire it for a long time!
Anonymous E replied with this 2 years ago, 21 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,238,164
Squeegee, how long does watch lubricating oil on a new watch last before it should be replaced?
squeegee (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,238,166
Anonymous E replied with this 2 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,238,169
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I am serious, please. I am Indy, and I just want to know. Not trying to be obnoxious.
I am serious, please. I am Indy, and I just want to know. Not trying to be obnoxious.
squeegee (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 27 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,238,171
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"Ah, Caviatipse, my friend, you have asked a question of the ages." As the golden sun dips below the horizon, Squeegzilla spreads her wings wide and opens her marsupial like pouch, "Caviatipse, climb inside me and we shall soar from the peak of the mighty Clockwork Mountain, where the rhythm of existence beats in the heart of every tick and tock." The flight, an ethereal dance in the twilight, brought them to the grand city of Miraclocks.
Upon arrival, the city’s grand clock tower struck the hour, its chime echoing through the stone streets and brick buildings. The city, lost in the thrum of daily life, paused for a moment, their hearts syncing with the rhythm of the clock tower.
You see, Caviatipse, in the heart of every watch lies a promise, a commitment to time itself. The lubricating oil, the lifeblood of a timepiece, ensures the smooth and accurate passage of time. It is a silent guardian, working tirelessly in the shadows of the watch.
Yet, like all things in this world, it too has a lifespan. After approximately 5 years, the lubricating oil in a modern sealed watch case starts to lose its potency. It is then, my friend, that the oil should be replaced, to allow the timepiece to continue its noble duty of marking the passage of time.
And thus, we arrive at our moral. Just as the lubricating oil needs to be replaced for a watch to function optimally, so too must we occasionally take a moment to renew ourselves, to ensure we are living our lives to the fullest. Every tick of our hearts, every tock of our spirits, is an opportunity for change, for growth, for renewal. That, dear Caviatipse, is the magic of time.
"Caviatipse?" Squeegezilla looks down at her pouch and says, "Caviatipse?" as she opens the outer lenticular membrane. Suddenly out pops Caviatipse with a great gasping for air, wet from her enzyme excretions, he flopped onto the ground, and let out an airy scream, "WHAaAAAT the FUUCCCK" he coughed and gasped, "Oh my GOD."
Caviatipse, i - "WHYYY" he screamed. "WHYYY" sobbing into his hands.
Squeegezilla looked around and Caviatipse lay on the ground. sobbing loudly. "WHHYYY"
She slowly backed away, and disappeared around the corner, and murmured, "this damn city really needs to get FIOS. dang."
There's a time for everything, and, sometimes the time is the time you should -yeah, idk what the moral of this one is. jesus fuck.
"Ah, Caviatipse, my friend, you have asked a question of the ages." As the golden sun dips below the horizon, Squeegzilla spreads her wings wide and opens her marsupial like pouch, "Caviatipse, climb inside me and we shall soar from the peak of the mighty Clockwork Mountain, where the rhythm of existence beats in the heart of every tick and tock." The flight, an ethereal dance in the twilight, brought them to the grand city of Miraclocks.
Upon arrival, the city’s grand clock tower struck the hour, its chime echoing through the stone streets and brick buildings. The city, lost in the thrum of daily life, paused for a moment, their hearts syncing with the rhythm of the clock tower.
You see, Caviatipse, in the heart of every watch lies a promise, a commitment to time itself. The lubricating oil, the lifeblood of a timepiece, ensures the smooth and accurate passage of time. It is a silent guardian, working tirelessly in the shadows of the watch.
Yet, like all things in this world, it too has a lifespan. After approximately 5 years, the lubricating oil in a modern sealed watch case starts to lose its potency. It is then, my friend, that the oil should be replaced, to allow the timepiece to continue its noble duty of marking the passage of time.
And thus, we arrive at our moral. Just as the lubricating oil needs to be replaced for a watch to function optimally, so too must we occasionally take a moment to renew ourselves, to ensure we are living our lives to the fullest. Every tick of our hearts, every tock of our spirits, is an opportunity for change, for growth, for renewal. That, dear Caviatipse, is the magic of time.
"Caviatipse?" Squeegezilla looks down at her pouch and says, "Caviatipse?" as she opens the outer lenticular membrane. Suddenly out pops Caviatipse with a great gasping for air, wet from her enzyme excretions, he flopped onto the ground, and let out an airy scream, "WHAaAAAT the FUUCCCK" he coughed and gasped, "Oh my GOD."
Caviatipse, i - "WHYYY" he screamed. "WHYYY" sobbing into his hands.
Squeegezilla looked around and Caviatipse lay on the ground. sobbing loudly. "WHHYYY"
She slowly backed away, and disappeared around the corner, and murmured, "this damn city really needs to get FIOS. dang."
There's a time for everything, and, sometimes the time is the time you should -yeah, idk what the moral of this one is. jesus fuck.
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By the time I get to the end of the article online I start asking questions. Failed journalist now that online journalism isn't a thing? How much can someone freelancing actually make in a month... how do they live on that $254 for the month or whatever?? How much obligation am I under now that I read the whole piece? If I read a 3 minute article but it take my 9 minutes to dig out my paypal information... it just doesn't feel very efficient. Does this person actually loiter in coffee shops all day and do they run to the counter to order as soon as tips come in? If I send a dick pic instead do they open it in said coffee shop with all those people around??
By the time I get to the end of the article online I start asking questions. Failed journalist now that online journalism isn't a thing? How much can someone freelancing actually make in a month... how do they live on that $254 for the month or whatever?? How much obligation am I under now that I read the whole piece? If I read a 3 minute article but it take my 9 minutes to dig out my paypal information... it just doesn't feel very efficient. Does this person actually loiter in coffee shops all day and do they run to the counter to order as soon as tips come in? If I send a dick pic instead do they open it in said coffee shop with all those people around??