Topic: Biden ‘knew of Ukrainian plan to attack Nord Stream’ three months before explosion
Anonymous A started this discussion 2 years ago #111,288
The Biden administration received an intelligence report that Ukraine had a plan for an attack on the Nord Stream pipelines three months before an underwater explosion disabled the natural gas link from Russia to Germany, the Washington Post has reported.
A European intelligence service told the CIA that the Ukrainian military was planning an attack using a small team of divers who reported directly to the commander in chief of the Ukrainian armed forces, the paper reported.
The six-person team reported directly to General Valerii Zaluzhnyi, the report claimed, so that president Volodymyr Zelenskiy would not know about the operation.
A European intelligence service told the CIA that the Ukrainian military was planning an attack using a small team of divers who reported directly to the commander in chief of the Ukrainian armed forces, the paper reported.
The six-person team reported directly to General Valerii Zaluzhnyi, the report claimed, so that president Volodymyr Zelenskiy would not know about the operation.
https://theguardian.com/business/2023/jun/06/biden-knew-of-plan-to-attack-nord-stream-three-months-before-explosion
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Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 1 hour later[^] [v] #1,236,651
A nation half the population of germany, where people made $400/month before the war, was able to destroy a pipline financed by German/Russians all on their own?
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Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 2 hours later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,236,663
Are you people suggesting the Ukrainians are lying?
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 2 hours later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,236,666
Russia could have kept Nord Stream around by simply not invading Ukraine. Sad, but maybe Vladdy boy will treat this as a learning experience.
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U replied with this 2 years ago, 40 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,236,673
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
> Russia could have kept Nord Stream around by simply not invading Ukraine. Sad, but maybe Vladdy boy will treat this as a learning experience.
Exactly, and I think the US needs to be more forceful in making this point to German politicians like this selfish cow who complain about now having to pay 5 times the price for American LNG:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Pgs0U3c3YJ4
Instead of whining about Germany slipping into a recession and facing deindustrialization, the Kraut bitch needs to understand the big picture: Vladdy boy has had to redirect his cheap and effectively limitless energy resources to the EU's main economic competitor since Germany's pipeline was blown up. That's gotta have pissed Putin off.
Meanwhile I see that Lindsey Graham (US senator for South Carolina) is in Ukraine yet again telling anyone who'll listen that Ukraine needs billions more American taxpayer dollars to buy F-16s (F-16s are jets that are made in Greenville, South Carolina).
Slava Ukraini!
> Russia could have kept Nord Stream around by simply not invading Ukraine. Sad, but maybe Vladdy boy will treat this as a learning experience.
Exactly, and I think the US needs to be more forceful in making this point to German politicians like this selfish cow who complain about now having to pay 5 times the price for American LNG:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Pgs0U3c3YJ4
Instead of whining about Germany slipping into a recession and facing deindustrialization, the Kraut bitch needs to understand the big picture: Vladdy boy has had to redirect his cheap and effectively limitless energy resources to the EU's main economic competitor since Germany's pipeline was blown up. That's gotta have pissed Putin off.
Meanwhile I see that Lindsey Graham (US senator for South Carolina) is in Ukraine yet again telling anyone who'll listen that Ukraine needs billions more American taxpayer dollars to buy F-16s (F-16s are jets that are made in Greenville, South Carolina).
Slava Ukraini!
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Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,236,674
So the stasi and the CIA knew about this but somehow Zelensky didn’t? Interesting.
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U replied with this 2 years ago, 3 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,236,675
@previous (E)
> So the stasi and the CIA knew about this but somehow Zelensky didn’t? Interesting.
Zelenskiy was still saying a Russian rocket hit Poland days after the Americans were saying that in fact it was a Ukrainian rocket. I'm starting to think this Zelenskiy character is not actually running the show and is more of a salesman for the US military industrial complex.
> So the stasi and the CIA knew about this but somehow Zelensky didn’t? Interesting.
Zelenskiy was still saying a Russian rocket hit Poland days after the Americans were saying that in fact it was a Ukrainian rocket. I'm starting to think this Zelenskiy character is not actually running the show and is more of a salesman for the US military industrial complex.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 2 years ago, 13 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,236,677
@1,236,673 (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
That is what happens when you base your entire energy policy around guzzling cheap Russian energy. Sometimes Russia will do a bad thing and you'll pay a premium on energy prices for a few years. It would be nice if that were not the tradeoff they chose, but having made that choice, it is dumb to whine about it now. Plus all I see is the U.S. winning here - the Russians are mad that we are giving Ukranians 30 year old U.S. equipment that blows up their cutting edge equipment, the Europeans are mad that they need to buy energy from the U.S., and the MIC is making a fortune. Everyone wins here! Well except the Ukranians and Russian soldiers that Putin has condemned to death by the tens or hundreds of thousands, but there's nothing the U.S. can do to stop that right now.
That is what happens when you base your entire energy policy around guzzling cheap Russian energy. Sometimes Russia will do a bad thing and you'll pay a premium on energy prices for a few years. It would be nice if that were not the tradeoff they chose, but having made that choice, it is dumb to whine about it now. Plus all I see is the U.S. winning here - the Russians are mad that we are giving Ukranians 30 year old U.S. equipment that blows up their cutting edge equipment, the Europeans are mad that they need to buy energy from the U.S., and the MIC is making a fortune. Everyone wins here! Well except the Ukranians and Russian soldiers that Putin has condemned to death by the tens or hundreds of thousands, but there's nothing the U.S. can do to stop that right now.
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U replied with this 2 years ago, 15 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,236,678
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
> all I see is the U.S. winning here
Agreed!
The people I most feel sorry for in all this American victory and profiteering are the hundreds of Ukrainian children being killed by Russian bombs. Another 2 year old girl was pulled out of the rubble in Dnipro a couple of days ago. If this is what it means when America says they are giving you "everything you need to defend yourselves" I'm not very impressed. But then I guess the Kurds and the Afghans have been trying to warn us about this famous "American protection" for a while now. Pay attention, Taiwanese folk!
All of this Ukrainian civilian death and destruction because Americans are a bunch of pussies who are terrified of making Vladdy boy angry by getting directly involved. It's heart-breaking.
> all I see is the U.S. winning here
Agreed!
The people I most feel sorry for in all this American victory and profiteering are the hundreds of Ukrainian children being killed by Russian bombs. Another 2 year old girl was pulled out of the rubble in Dnipro a couple of days ago. If this is what it means when America says they are giving you "everything you need to defend yourselves" I'm not very impressed. But then I guess the Kurds and the Afghans have been trying to warn us about this famous "American protection" for a while now. Pay attention, Taiwanese folk!
All of this Ukrainian civilian death and destruction because Americans are a bunch of pussies who are terrified of making Vladdy boy angry by getting directly involved. It's heart-breaking.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 2 years ago, 34 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,236,679
@previous (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
If VVP wants to go toe-to-toe with NATO with a gentleman's agreement not to use nukes, I think that the US would gladly accept that offer. The fact that he is not doing that, and is instead murdering civilians of the only European country on his border not in NATO says everything you need to know about the reliability of American protection, and everything you need to know about Russian foreign policy.
If VVP wants to go toe-to-toe with NATO with a gentleman's agreement not to use nukes, I think that the US would gladly accept that offer. The fact that he is not doing that, and is instead murdering civilians of the only European country on his border not in NATO says everything you need to know about the reliability of American protection, and everything you need to know about Russian foreign policy.
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U replied with this 2 years ago, 44 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,236,682
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
> If VVP wants to go toe-to-toe with NATO with a gentleman's agreement not to use nukes, I think that the US would gladly accept that offer. The fact that he is not doing that, and is instead murdering civilians of the only European country on his border not in NATO says everything you need to know about the reliability of American protection
It indeed does! As you phrased it, you'll send them a bunch of "30 year old" junk that you no longer need and claim you've given them "everything they need to defend themselves" even while the Ukrainians are screaming every day from beneath a shitload of rubble that they need way more. Hell the Yanks are so shit-scared of Vladdy boy they're letting Ukraine get systematically blown to pieces because they won't even send them long-range missiles to strike military bases in what they repeatedly say is the sovereign Ukrainian territory of Crimea. Again, bunch of cowards.
Finally...
> murdering civilians of the only European country on his border not in NATO
Whoever said "War is God's way of teaching geography to Americans" was clearly overly-confident in Our Lord's abilities ;)
> If VVP wants to go toe-to-toe with NATO with a gentleman's agreement not to use nukes, I think that the US would gladly accept that offer. The fact that he is not doing that, and is instead murdering civilians of the only European country on his border not in NATO says everything you need to know about the reliability of American protection
It indeed does! As you phrased it, you'll send them a bunch of "30 year old" junk that you no longer need and claim you've given them "everything they need to defend themselves" even while the Ukrainians are screaming every day from beneath a shitload of rubble that they need way more. Hell the Yanks are so shit-scared of Vladdy boy they're letting Ukraine get systematically blown to pieces because they won't even send them long-range missiles to strike military bases in what they repeatedly say is the sovereign Ukrainian territory of Crimea. Again, bunch of cowards.
Finally...
> murdering civilians of the only European country on his border not in NATO
Whoever said "War is God's way of teaching geography to Americans" was clearly overly-confident in Our Lord's abilities ;)
Anonymous E replied with this 2 years ago, 4 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,236,684
I’m sure Putin could have brought Ukraine back into Russia’s sphere of influence without an invasion.
It might have taken 20 years but it would have been less costly.
It might have taken 20 years but it would have been less costly.
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U replied with this 2 years ago, 10 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,236,685
@previous (E)
> I’m sure Putin could have brought Ukraine back into Russia’s sphere of influence without an invasion.
>
> It might have taken 20 years but it would have been less costly.
Very, very doubtful in my opinion. Ukraine was being militarised to fuck since 2014. Even Angela Merkel said that the Minsk Accords were never meant to be implemented, they were to buy time to flood Ukraine with weapons. Right or wrong, Putin felt he had to act then (Feb 2022) or it would have been too late. It's why this war won't end until the 'Zelenskiy' regime is overthrown. Sucks for Western Ukrainians, who want fuck-all to do with Russia, but they're fleeing to Europe anyway and building new lives there (the women anyway. All Ukrainian men over 18 are forbidden from leaving).
> I’m sure Putin could have brought Ukraine back into Russia’s sphere of influence without an invasion.
>
> It might have taken 20 years but it would have been less costly.
Very, very doubtful in my opinion. Ukraine was being militarised to fuck since 2014. Even Angela Merkel said that the Minsk Accords were never meant to be implemented, they were to buy time to flood Ukraine with weapons. Right or wrong, Putin felt he had to act then (Feb 2022) or it would have been too late. It's why this war won't end until the 'Zelenskiy' regime is overthrown. Sucks for Western Ukrainians, who want fuck-all to do with Russia, but they're fleeing to Europe anyway and building new lives there (the women anyway. All Ukrainian men over 18 are forbidden from leaving).
Meta !Sober//iZs joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 3 hours later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,236,696
@1,236,682 (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
How does the military-industrial complex work in Russia? Are all the defense contractors privatized or are they state owned/controlled?
Do you guys have your own equivalent of Boeing/General Dynamics/Raytheon/etc lobbying the Duma?
How does the military-industrial complex work in Russia? Are all the defense contractors privatized or are they state owned/controlled?
Do you guys have your own equivalent of Boeing/General Dynamics/Raytheon/etc lobbying the Duma?
Anonymous E replied with this 2 years ago, 4 hours later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,236,737
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
> How does the military-industrial complex work in Russia? Are all the defense contractors privatized or are they state owned/controlled?
>
> Do you guys have your own equivalent of Boeing/General Dynamics/Raytheon/etc lobbying the Duma?
Pretty sure it’s mostly old USSR crap and Chinese made knock offs and maybe stuff from Iran
> How does the military-industrial complex work in Russia? Are all the defense contractors privatized or are they state owned/controlled?
>
> Do you guys have your own equivalent of Boeing/General Dynamics/Raytheon/etc lobbying the Duma?
Pretty sure it’s mostly old USSR crap and Chinese made knock offs and maybe stuff from Iran
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 2 years ago, 1 hour later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,236,739
@previous (E)
I dunno man, some of the combat videos look like high tech shit is being used at least some of the time by the Russians. Those could easily have been faked of course like the Apollo ones.
I dunno man, some of the combat videos look like high tech shit is being used at least some of the time by the Russians. Those could easily have been faked of course like the Apollo ones.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 2 years ago, 2 hours later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,236,752
@1,236,682 (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
We're climbing the military aid escalation ladder slowly but surely. I think pretty clearly we should just give the Ukrainians equipment comparable to what we give our allies and let them beat the Russians out of their territory then sue for peace. It's what this is all heading towards anyway, no reason to slowroll it at this point. But again, Putin didn't send troops into Latvia or Estonia or Poland, he sent it into a country with no treaty guarantee of U.S. protection. I do think it's weird to use this catastrophic war to make some kind of snide point about the unreliability of U.S. defense when I think it is probably more an indictment of Russia's delusional understanding of its own capabilities and standing in the world pecking order.
And I remembered Belarus right after I hit post but didn't bother to go back to edit it! But I'm not sure the relationship between Belarus and Russia is an example that other countries are eager to follow. Can't imagine why Ukraine chose to be part of the West rather than a bigger Belarus.
We're climbing the military aid escalation ladder slowly but surely. I think pretty clearly we should just give the Ukrainians equipment comparable to what we give our allies and let them beat the Russians out of their territory then sue for peace. It's what this is all heading towards anyway, no reason to slowroll it at this point. But again, Putin didn't send troops into Latvia or Estonia or Poland, he sent it into a country with no treaty guarantee of U.S. protection. I do think it's weird to use this catastrophic war to make some kind of snide point about the unreliability of U.S. defense when I think it is probably more an indictment of Russia's delusional understanding of its own capabilities and standing in the world pecking order.
And I remembered Belarus right after I hit post but didn't bother to go back to edit it! But I'm not sure the relationship between Belarus and Russia is an example that other countries are eager to follow. Can't imagine why Ukraine chose to be part of the West rather than a bigger Belarus.
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U replied with this 2 years ago, 6 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,236,755
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
> But again, Putin didn't send troops into Latvia or Estonia or Poland
Because he has zero reason to. It would be helpful if Americans moved away from a CNN-level "PUTIN WANTS TO REBUILD THE SOVIET UNION!" understanding of why this war happened, why Ukraine is particular to Russia's economic and strategic interests, why a war had been going on there in the east since 2014, and why Putin couldn't give 2 fucks about Estonia or Latvia. You may have noticed he also showed zero interest in moving his troops into Finland or Sweden.
> I think it's weird to use this catastrophic war to make some kind of snide point about the unreliability of U.S. defense
You wrote a post celebrating this war as being nothing but a "win" for America. I felt it necessary to remind you that every Ukrainian child who has died since you sabotaged the peace talks in Turkey last April, telling the Ukrainians to keep fighting because you'd break the Russian economy by the summer, is dead because of that catastrophic decision. And since that time you've been forcing them to "defend themselves" with one hand tied behind their back because God forbid you should piss off Vladdy boy and "escalate" the crisis. Great going, America. Again, good luck Taiwan because they plan on making you next.
In short, I felt that your gleeful post about how much money you're making out of Ukrainian death was the kind of post Svet mocks your ethnicity for. I thought maybe reminding you of babies being pulled out of the rubble would sober you up a bit and force to think of something other than how great this whole thing is for the American wallet.
> But again, Putin didn't send troops into Latvia or Estonia or Poland
Because he has zero reason to. It would be helpful if Americans moved away from a CNN-level "PUTIN WANTS TO REBUILD THE SOVIET UNION!" understanding of why this war happened, why Ukraine is particular to Russia's economic and strategic interests, why a war had been going on there in the east since 2014, and why Putin couldn't give 2 fucks about Estonia or Latvia. You may have noticed he also showed zero interest in moving his troops into Finland or Sweden.
> I think it's weird to use this catastrophic war to make some kind of snide point about the unreliability of U.S. defense
You wrote a post celebrating this war as being nothing but a "win" for America. I felt it necessary to remind you that every Ukrainian child who has died since you sabotaged the peace talks in Turkey last April, telling the Ukrainians to keep fighting because you'd break the Russian economy by the summer, is dead because of that catastrophic decision. And since that time you've been forcing them to "defend themselves" with one hand tied behind their back because God forbid you should piss off Vladdy boy and "escalate" the crisis. Great going, America. Again, good luck Taiwan because they plan on making you next.
In short, I felt that your gleeful post about how much money you're making out of Ukrainian death was the kind of post Svet mocks your ethnicity for. I thought maybe reminding you of babies being pulled out of the rubble would sober you up a bit and force to think of something other than how great this whole thing is for the American wallet.
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Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U double-posted this 2 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,236,756
@1,236,696 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
> How does the military-industrial complex work in Russia? Are all the defense contractors privatized or are they state owned/controlled?
Similar to the energy sector in the sense that in theory they're privately owned companies but it practise they're state owned. The "private owners" of the companies tend to be former judo partners of Putin who just so happen to always be on the same page as him.
> How does the military-industrial complex work in Russia? Are all the defense contractors privatized or are they state owned/controlled?
Similar to the energy sector in the sense that in theory they're privately owned companies but it practise they're state owned. The "private owners" of the companies tend to be former judo partners of Putin who just so happen to always be on the same page as him.
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 2 years ago, 56 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,236,762
@1,236,755 (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
> You wrote a post celebrating this war as being nothing but a "win" for America. I felt it necessary to remind you that every Ukrainian child who has died since you sabotaged the peace talks in Turkey last April, telling the Ukrainians to keep fighting because you'd break the Russian economy by the summer, is dead because of that catastrophic decision.
Kinda reminds me of the time in 1996 then-Secretary of State Madeleine Albright said 500,000 dead Iraqi children as a consequence of sanctioning Iraq was "worth it".
> You wrote a post celebrating this war as being nothing but a "win" for America. I felt it necessary to remind you that every Ukrainian child who has died since you sabotaged the peace talks in Turkey last April, telling the Ukrainians to keep fighting because you'd break the Russian economy by the summer, is dead because of that catastrophic decision.
Kinda reminds me of the time in 1996 then-Secretary of State Madeleine Albright said 500,000 dead Iraqi children as a consequence of sanctioning Iraq was "worth it".
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U replied with this 2 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,236,764
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
> > You wrote a post celebrating this war as being nothing but a "win" for America. I felt it necessary to remind you that every Ukrainian child who has died since you sabotaged the peace talks in Turkey last April, telling the Ukrainians to keep fighting because you'd break the Russian economy by the summer, is dead because of that catastrophic decision.
>
> Kinda reminds me of the time in 1996 then-Secretary of State Madeleine Albright said 500,000 dead Iraqi children as a consequence of sanctioning Iraq was "worth it".
Yep, or Anthony Blinken telling a group of Wall Street bigwigs last year that the war represented a "tremendous opportunity" for American business.
Or my personal favourite, the Salesman-in-Chief himself awkwardly reading Victoria Nuland's script thanking, I quote:
"...such giants of the international financial and investment world as Black Rock, J.P. Morgan and Goldman Sachs.
Such American brands as Starlink or Westinghouse have already become part of our Ukrainian way.
Your brilliant defense systems – such as HIMARS or Bradleys – are already uniting our history of freedom with your enterprises. We are waiting for Patriots. We are looking closely at Abrams. Thousands of such examples are possible! And everyone can become a big business by working with Ukraine!"
https://scheerpost.com/2023/01/27/ukraines-zelensky-sends-love-letter-to-us-corporations-promising-big-business-for-wall-street/
The hysterical video clip of that speech is regrettably difficult to come by because for some bizarre reason YouTube keeps deleting it.
> > You wrote a post celebrating this war as being nothing but a "win" for America. I felt it necessary to remind you that every Ukrainian child who has died since you sabotaged the peace talks in Turkey last April, telling the Ukrainians to keep fighting because you'd break the Russian economy by the summer, is dead because of that catastrophic decision.
>
> Kinda reminds me of the time in 1996 then-Secretary of State Madeleine Albright said 500,000 dead Iraqi children as a consequence of sanctioning Iraq was "worth it".
Yep, or Anthony Blinken telling a group of Wall Street bigwigs last year that the war represented a "tremendous opportunity" for American business.
Or my personal favourite, the Salesman-in-Chief himself awkwardly reading Victoria Nuland's script thanking, I quote:
"...such giants of the international financial and investment world as Black Rock, J.P. Morgan and Goldman Sachs.
Such American brands as Starlink or Westinghouse have already become part of our Ukrainian way.
Your brilliant defense systems – such as HIMARS or Bradleys – are already uniting our history of freedom with your enterprises. We are waiting for Patriots. We are looking closely at Abrams. Thousands of such examples are possible! And everyone can become a big business by working with Ukraine!"
https://scheerpost.com/2023/01/27/ukraines-zelensky-sends-love-letter-to-us-corporations-promising-big-business-for-wall-street/
The hysterical video clip of that speech is regrettably difficult to come by because for some bizarre reason YouTube keeps deleting it.
(Edited 8 minutes later.)
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U double-posted this 2 years ago, 14 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,236,765
Back to the OP of this thread by the way, what are everyone's thoughts on Ukraine and/or the US allegedly launching what was at the time described as "an eco-terrorist attack" on a NATO country's (Germany) civilian infrastructure? Should Germany invoke Article 5 against them?
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Anonymous E replied with this 2 years ago, 48 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,236,767
@1,236,764 (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
@previous (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
Whine all you want about how unfairly Russia is treated but at the end of the day the US is more powerful and Russia continues to fall into deeper irrelevancy 😂
@previous (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
Whine all you want about how unfairly Russia is treated but at the end of the day the US is more powerful and Russia continues to fall into deeper irrelevancy 😂
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U replied with this 2 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,236,775
@previous (E)> at the end of the day the US is more powerful
Which must be why an alliance of over 40 countries is running out of weapons one by one while the country you've staked your tattered reputation on "winning the war with Russia" after getting humiliated by the Taliban is being smashed to pieces.
You know it's bad when even CNN (The Shopping Network for the American MIC) are admitting big Ukrainian losses during this suicidal 'counter-offensive' they're being forced into...
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/08/politics/ukraine-forces-resistance/index.html
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Anonymous E replied with this 2 years ago, 7 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,236,801
@previous (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
> > at the end of the day the US is more powerful
>
> Which must be why an alliance of over 40 countries is running out of weapons one by one while the country you've staked your tattered reputation on "winning the war with Russia" after getting humiliated by the Taliban is being smashed to pieces.
>
> You know it's bad when even CNN (The Shopping Network for the American MIC) are admitting big Ukrainian losses during this suicidal 'counter-offensive' they're being forced into...
>
> https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/08/politics/ukraine-forces-resistance/index.html
> he thinks the point of wars is to “win”
> > at the end of the day the US is more powerful
>
> Which must be why an alliance of over 40 countries is running out of weapons one by one while the country you've staked your tattered reputation on "winning the war with Russia" after getting humiliated by the Taliban is being smashed to pieces.
>
> You know it's bad when even CNN (The Shopping Network for the American MIC) are admitting big Ukrainian losses during this suicidal 'counter-offensive' they're being forced into...
>
> https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/08/politics/ukraine-forces-resistance/index.html
> he thinks the point of wars is to “win”
Anonymous E double-posted this 2 years ago, 27 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,236,802
It’s not WW2 grandpa