Topic: What is one thing that you've had for the longest time that feelings like it became family?
Anonymous A started this discussion 2 years ago#111,092
For me, it has to be this old Chromebook. I initially got it during Black Friday and it has always served me well as a backup computer for when my main one had temporary issues. Though it's glory days are behind it as Google already delivered it's last software update. This little laptop continues to assist me in whatever it is that needs assisting with. I love my Samsung Chromebook.
Anonymous D double-posted this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 33 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,234,709
@1,234,707 (C)
Past a certain point that actually stops being true. I doubt there's anything still floating around out there that would infect a Windows 95 machine.
Anonymous C replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 35 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,234,710
@previous (D)
Modern vira can collect target machine data and use "copilot" software writing ai to exploit known holes in the security on a case-by-case basis.
There's nothing stopping an infected machine from pulling old Windows 95 user manuals, published security exploits, and whipping up something that will let it spread to the windows 95 device.
Anonymous C replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 39 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,234,712
@previous (D)
I can provide you with example of vira spreading from machine to machine, and I can provide you with examples of software that can write novel code for a given problem.
There's no reason a virus needs to remain limited to preprogrammed machines when it can be given the prompt "rewrite main.cpp to infect a windows 95 machine".
Anonymous D replied with this 2 years ago, 4 minutes later, 47 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,234,717
@1,234,712 (C) > There's no reason a virus needs to remain limited to preprogrammed machines when it can be given the prompt "rewrite main.cpp to infect a windows 95 machine".
I agree that that could happen, but I'm asking if you have any reason to believe it's happening now.
I can easily imagine it happening in the future, but right now it seems quite implausible. No way you're going to get a LLM running on an infected machine. So that means it's going to need to phone home somewhere where the LLM is running. Where would that be? To OpenAI/Microsoft's servers? Not a great way to run a botnet. To the bot owner's own servers that run a LLM? If they've trained one good enough to function at copilot-level and are running it themselves, then they'd likely have a much easier time selling access to that than running a botnet.
> >There's no reason a virus needs to remain limited to preprogrammed machines when it can be given the prompt "rewrite main.cpp to infect a windows 95 machine". > I agree that that could happen, but I'm asking if you have any reason to believe it's happening now.
I've seen many examples people rewriting software using ai. > =but right now it seems quite implausible.
Already been done > No way you're going to get a LLM running on an infected machine.
Vira already "check in" with central servers to update their tasks. That could be changing what sites it directs infect computers to, or what wallet it dumps the crypto it mines into. Expanding that to include target client info, and receiving a signed binary back from central, would be more than enough. you don't need each infected machine generating the code and compiling it themselves. > To the bot owner's own servers that run a LLM? If they've trained one good enough to function at copilot-level and are running it themselves, then they'd likely have a much easier time selling access to that than running a botnet.
There are already open language models that can code, you can run them on your own server.
> I've seen many examples people rewriting software using ai.
Not what I asked.
> > =but right now it seems quite implausible. > Already been done
Show me.
> Vira already "check in" with central servers to update their tasks. That could be changing what sites it directs infect computers to, or what wallet it dumps the crypto it mines into. Expanding that to include target client info, and receiving a signed binary back from central, would be more than enough. you don't need each infected machine generating the code and compiling it themselves.
Missing the point.
> There are already open language models that can code, you can run them on your own server.
They are not very good yet.
You understand it exists, but you want me to show an example of someone doing it maliciously?
> Missing the point.
That's why it doesn't need to do it locally, not sure what the technical challenge here is if it's already done with other parts of the malware.
> > There are already open language models that can code, you can run them on your own server. > They are not very good yet.
Have you tried prompting them for malware?
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 6 hours later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,234,738
@previous (A)
you're putting your entire family at risk with your old chromebook! think of how the consequences could affect yourself too. what if they hack into your WWE account?
Anonymous D replied with this 2 years ago, 7 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,234,780
@previous (E)
I guess you have it all figured out. Keep at it then. If that's what you have to do to have some semblance of a happy, balanced life, then so be it.