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Topic: Why Biden can't use the 14th amendment to indebt the United States against congress's wishes.

Anonymous A started this discussion 2 years ago #110,982

...all Sen. Warren needs to do is read the 14th Amendment to learn that it gives the president no power to “use” it to create more debt.


Some Senate Democrats are urging President Joe Biden to “use” the 14th Amendment to raise the debt limit by executive decree. For example, Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) stated:


“The 14th Amendment is not anyone’s first choice. The first choice is that the Republicans raise the debt ceiling because the United States government never, ever, ever, ever defaults on its legal obligations. But if Kevin McCarthy is going to push the United States over a cliff, then it becomes the president’s responsibility to find an alternative path.”


As a former law member of the Ohio bar and a senator for more than 10 years, Warren almost certainly knows that keeping the current debt ceiling doesn’t cause default. It merely forces the government to run a balanced budget—something the government should be doing anyway.


The House passed a bill increasing the National Debt, but the democrats aren't accepting it because there's no money for the their pet "Woke" projects. The democrats need to pass the bill created by the House. Why is it democrats are always wanting to cheat at everything they do & feel that USA laws don't apply to them?

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/why-biden-cant-use-14th-amendment-raise-debt-ceiling

Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 50 minutes later[^] [v] #1,233,412

What do you think about the Federal Reserve?

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 6 hours later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,233,423

This guy doesn't understand literally anything lol. Writing is a nice hobby but he shouldn't quit his day job.

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Anonymous B replied with this 2 years ago, 4 hours later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,233,430

@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Sounds a lot like you.

America First !Sober//iZs joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 1 hour later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,233,433

My question is: if the "debt ceiling" gets raised every time anyway, by R and D alike, what is it actually a "ceiling" or "limit" on?? 🤔

Like, to me "debt ceiling" means "so far and no further" period end of story.

Anonymous B replied with this 2 years ago, 4 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,233,434

@previous (America First !Sober//iZs)
Yeah, well you thought wrong.

Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 24 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,233,436

@1,233,423 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
pretty stupid. if the budget should be balanced then Rs should tax the rich n corpos to do it.

debt is borrowing from lendors wuth interest when u could tax them because they have fking money anyway.

repubs like to get fucked in the ass by these lenders cause they dont have the balls to tax lol.
buckaaaack!

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 2 years ago, 7 hours later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,233,465

@1,233,430 (B)
Source?
@previous (E)
Budget shouldn't be balanced. It should run big deficits or small-medium surpluses depending on the state of the economy. Balanced budget is for babies. Anyway, if McCarthy wants Biden to spend less money, he should work to pass a bill that Biden will sign that cuts the budget. It's incoherent to say that Biden must by law spend money allocated in the previous budget, but also that Biden may not spend more than some arbitrary number of $X trillion. Either he has the legal authorization to spend the money, or he doesn't. Trying to argue he both can and cannot do something is gibberish. In any event where the law is unclear, Biden should just do what he thinks is right, which is to spend the money lawfully appropriated by Congress. I don't think even this nutjob SCOTUS would prevent him.

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Anonymous B replied with this 2 years ago, 3 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,233,467

@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
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Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 4 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,233,474

@1,233,465 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Ironic that you would advise putting everything on the credit card, that doesn't sound financially responsible.
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