Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 2 years ago, 22 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,229,730
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How is Wagner viewed there? Is it viewed as similar to the Russian military in terms of praiseworthiness/honor? Or is it viewed like Blackwater was in the U.S. (kind of a scummy mercenary group with questionable moral practices)? Or something else?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 26 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,229,735
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A mixture of the 2. The organisation itself is very highly respected, as are its actual trained fighters. The convict cannon fodder used to attrit Ukrainians in Bakhmut aren't really seen as soldiers. Every confirmed dead 'fighter' gets his name read out on the nightly news alongside the "hero of Russia" banner, but they won't be getting any billboards any time soon. Honestly the guys Prigozhin has taken from the jails are psychos and most Russians are glad to be rid of them so 'cheaply'. If 5 of those worthless shitheads die taking out 1 elite Ukrainian fighter, they consider it a good deal all round.
> How is Wagner viewed there? Is it viewed as similar to the Russian military in terms of praiseworthiness/honor? Or is it viewed like Blackwater was in the U.S. (kind of a scummy mercenary group with questionable moral practices)? Or something else?
The number of Blackwater contractors was much smaller and the type of services they provided to the US government was entirely different. Blackwater was used a security forces and didn’t do operational stuff whereas Wagner is being used as a maneuvering unit and it’s use is being publicized.
I'm a a) wealthy b) Brit c) living in St Petersburg, those are not draft criteria. Besides which I know from direct experience that Russia has already called up around 800,000 military reserves since last September (way in excess of the numbers given in the Western media). I visited the Wagner headquarters a couple of weeks ago and they're doing good business in terms of recruitment. My fairly educated guess is Putin's banking on the first part of the actual war being over by 2025 and then an occupation force will take over the parts he's annexed. In other words, a much larger scale version of the Crimean annexation in 2014. I'm not necessarily saying that's what will happen, but I believe it's his overall objective.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 2 years ago, 28 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,229,809
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That makes sense, thank you! @1,229,738 (B)
Yeah Russia seems to outsource more of their actual fighting to Wagner than the U.S. ever did with its contractors. It's just the closest analogy I could think of.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 26 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,229,820
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I think the Ukrainian leadership were idiotic for talking about joining NATO when they knew full well that the Kremlin would never allow that to happen. Living next door to Russia along the vital Black Sea coastline is not like living next door to, say, England or Germany. It's more like living next door to America. You don't get to make your own choices about whose weapons and military are in your country. Unfair? Of course. Reality? Also of course. And as long as deluded neocons continue to outmaneuver sane realists in Washington, Ukrainians will continue to die and their country will become more and more of an unviable state.
You're asking someone who predicted none of this would happen. And when it did and the way-off-base prediction was realized by even one of this community's most retarded members, it provoked him to go into hiding for nearly a year only to eventually build up enough courage to return as a poor impersonation of a Catholic priest. So this is all to say, don't expect to find any insight or information in his answer.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 2 years ago, 36 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,229,829
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He pretended to be a priest long before that. And I'm not asking him to opine on how he thinks the war will go, just how Russians view Wagner. I do 99% of my Ukraine news and information gathering from places other than Father Merrin @ minichan dot net, don't worry.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,229,831
CNN get more and more hilarious by the day. This morning: Russia is running out of missiles! This evening: Wagner is supplying missiles to Sudan's militia!
> He pretended to be a priest long before that.
Never said he didn't.
> And I'm not asking him to opine on how he thinks the war will go, just how Russians view Wagner.
No idea why you think he'd have a good sense of that given how wrong he's been about literally everything about it, including public perceptions both inside and outside of Russia.