Topic: Have a racist Valentine's day everyone!
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic started this discussion 15 years ago #1,095
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Sexist ad. Men are loved by someone, women are owned by someone.totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic (OP) quattuodecuple-posted this 15 years ago, 9 minutes later, 32 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #20,945
I'm just going to throw in some sexist and racist advertising and products.totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic (OP) sexadecuple-posted this 15 years ago, 45 seconds later, 32 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #20,946
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Published in Life 1899.totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic (OP) septuadecuple-posted this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 38 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #20,951
Harper's weekly 1860.Ph !5pM9NZR/l6 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 42 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #20,956
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awww yeah, niggers suck!!
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@previous (C)True.
Cartoon depicting the differences of appearance between English women and Irish women.
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Hi toto. I'm reading a book called Female Chauvinist Pigs and it has an interesting chapter about misogynistic lesbians. One anecdote:
Is this sort of attitude actually common in lesbian culture?
You can feel it in New York, where on a cold fall night at a lesbian bar called Meow Mix, a girl in a newsboy cap and a white T-shirt with rolled-up sleeves said to her friend, “Some femme … just some fucking femme. I met her at a party three weeks ago and I fucked her and that was cool. But now she’s like, e-mailing me and I’m just like, chill out, bitch!†Her chest was smooth and flat: She’d either had top surgery--a double mastectomy--or, more likely, she bound her breasts down to achieve the look. She thrust her forearm in front of her face as if she were rapping as she spoke: “Some of these chicks, it’s like you top them once and then they’re all up in your face. It’s like, did I get you off? Yes. Am I your new best friend? No. You know what I’m saying, bro?â€
Her friend nodded and kept her eyes on the blonde go-go dancer in tiny white shorts undulating on a tabletop near the bar. “Bois like us,†she replied, “we’ve got to stick together.â€
Her friend nodded and kept her eyes on the blonde go-go dancer in tiny white shorts undulating on a tabletop near the bar. “Bois like us,†she replied, “we’ve got to stick together.â€
Is this sort of attitude actually common in lesbian culture?
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,088
LOL There is nothing wrong with most of the things you showed. The Indian Valentine's cards were incredibly cute and very funny. The African cards showed an interest in, but ignorance of, black culture. That underwear ad was sexist, but for the opposite reason to what you said. The man put the message on the woman's pants and the woman put the message on the man's pants. The ad says that men are jealous jerks who think they possess women and that women are wonderful and loving. My nipples are pink so I don't need that cream lol. Are you also opposed to hair dye? To teeth bleaching? If the English/Irish picture is attempting to be serious and realistic and not some kind of joke (I haven't seen the full context) then that is wrong.
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@21,088 (F)
I disagree completely. Depicting black people with big open mouths or lynching imagery is very racist.
The underwear ad shows that men believe women to be property, and why does it matter what color your nipples are?
I disagree completely. Depicting black people with big open mouths or lynching imagery is very racist.
The underwear ad shows that men believe women to be property, and why does it matter what color your nipples are?
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 22 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,590
@previous (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
Of course It's racist. But is it malevolent? I don't think so. No, the ad is claiming men think that way. It offends me for that reason. What does it matter what my reason is? Are people not allowed to like what you don't like?
Of course It's racist. But is it malevolent? I don't think so. No, the ad is claiming men think that way. It offends me for that reason. What does it matter what my reason is? Are people not allowed to like what you don't like?
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,594
@previous (F)
I never said that you couldn't have a differing opinion or treated you poorly because of it.
I never said that you couldn't have a differing opinion or treated you poorly because of it.
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totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,635
@previous (F)
It is sexist because it's yet another product designed to make women look like something that is not human. Also, I was never men to you, yet you tried to act like I was treating you badly.
It is sexist because it's yet another product designed to make women look like something that is not human. Also, I was never men to you, yet you tried to act like I was treating you badly.
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@21,635 (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
> It is sexist because it's yet another product designed to make women look like something that is not human.
What? Some women are naturally pink.
> It is sexist because it's yet another product designed to make women look like something that is not human.
What? Some women are naturally pink.
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 23 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,650
@21,635 (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
As I stayed earlier, I have pink nipples. Are saying I am not a human?
As I stayed earlier, I have pink nipples. Are saying I am not a human?
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@21,650 (F)
No, I'm saying that those products re trying to fit women into very narrow mold. For what reason?
No, I'm saying that those products re trying to fit women into very narrow mold. For what reason?
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 16 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,663
@previous (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
lol the products are inanimate. they don't try to do anything. why would you deny people these products?
lol the products are inanimate. they don't try to do anything. why would you deny people these products?
Anonymous I replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,665
@previous (F)
> why would you deny people these products?
Exactly. totoforhire, you have to understand that other people make different choices than you and some might really enjoy using those products.
> why would you deny people these products?
Exactly. totoforhire, you have to understand that other people make different choices than you and some might really enjoy using those products.
Anonymous E replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,668
@21,658 (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
Agreed. It's symptomatic of a culture that demands women conform every aspect of their body to an impossible ideal.
I haven't actually heard of anyone except breast cancer survivors 'dying' their areolae, though.
Agreed. It's symptomatic of a culture that demands women conform every aspect of their body to an impossible ideal.
I haven't actually heard of anyone except breast cancer survivors 'dying' their areolae, though.
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Anonymous I replied with this 15 years ago, 58 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,690
@previous (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
You've made your choice, but you have to respect that not everyone is going to think the way you do or make that same decision.
You've made your choice, but you have to respect that not everyone is going to think the way you do or make that same decision.
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totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,700
@previous (I)
No I didn't, I said that products like that promote an unreasonable ideal of beauty. People don't need to alter their bodies to be attractive.
No I didn't, I said that products like that promote an unreasonable ideal of beauty. People don't need to alter their bodies to be attractive.
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Anonymous I replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,703
@previous (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
Here:
@21,635 (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
> yet another product designed to make women look like something that is not human.
Here:
@21,635 (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
> yet another product designed to make women look like something that is not human.
Anonymous I double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,705
@21,700 (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
> People don't need to alter their bodies to be attractive.
Sometimes, it's not about being attractive to other people, but about feeling good about yourself.
> People don't need to alter their bodies to be attractive.
Sometimes, it's not about being attractive to other people, but about feeling good about yourself.
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totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,719
@21,703 (I)
If you are altering yourself from how you look at birth, you are trying to look like something that is not real or human.
If you are altering yourself from how you look at birth, you are trying to look like something that is not real or human.
Anonymous I replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,723
@previous (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
That is a horrible thing to say. Are transgendered people not human?
That is a horrible thing to say. Are transgendered people not human?
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,731
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totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,745
@21,723 (I)
Perhaps I have said this the wrong way. I feel like it's horrible, and socially irresponsible for advertisers to market this type of product. Products like this are almost always marketed towards women to keep them in a perpetual state of trying to improve their appearance. If someone feels like they are born in the wrong body then they have every right to change it, just like everyone else. But it's sad when any of these cosmetic changes are pushed onto someone.
Perhaps I have said this the wrong way. I feel like it's horrible, and socially irresponsible for advertisers to market this type of product. Products like this are almost always marketed towards women to keep them in a perpetual state of trying to improve their appearance. If someone feels like they are born in the wrong body then they have every right to change it, just like everyone else. But it's sad when any of these cosmetic changes are pushed onto someone.
Anonymous I replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,750
@previous (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
Sometimes, some people are born naturally beautiful. Beauty products exist to let people who weren't as fortunate be as beautiful as they can be.
Sometimes, some people are born naturally beautiful. Beauty products exist to let people who weren't as fortunate be as beautiful as they can be.
totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,752
@previous (I)
Beauty is oftentimes defined by advertising companies, and almost every beauty product is marketed towards women.
Beauty is oftentimes defined by advertising companies, and almost every beauty product is marketed towards women.
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,758
@21,745 (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
How would people discover these products without advertising? You are attempting to censor things because you don't them.
How would people discover these products without advertising? You are attempting to censor things because you don't them.
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@21,752 (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
This marketing is sexist against men who wish to be informed about beauty products.
This marketing is sexist against men who wish to be informed about beauty products.
Triptych !!DP4/G/5A6 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,763
I gotta agree with toto here.
Standards are ridiculously high.
Standards are ridiculously high.
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Triptych !!DP4/G/5A6 replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,952
@previous (F)
Nah. More because they think they'll be completely rejected by society if they don't.
Trust me on this, I spend 6 hours a day in a building with...800 teenaged girls.
Nah. More because they think they'll be completely rejected by society if they don't.
Trust me on this, I spend 6 hours a day in a building with...800 teenaged girls.
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@21,965 (Triptych !!DP4/G/5A6)
@previous (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
Then they are horrible people. Why care what they think?
@previous (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
Then they are horrible people. Why care what they think?
Triptych !!DP4/G/5A6 replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,979
@previous (F)
Oh, I don't. But many people do, because these people constitute most of society.
Acceptance by society is generally sought after in high school. Probably after high school, too, but I wouldn't know.
Oh, I don't. But many people do, because these people constitute most of society.
Acceptance by society is generally sought after in high school. Probably after high school, too, but I wouldn't know.
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@21,979 (Triptych !!DP4/G/5A6)
It is. I have no problem exposing my no makeup wearing, hairy self in public. And it's actually quite a relief to not have to hide my true self.
It is. I have no problem exposing my no makeup wearing, hairy self in public. And it's actually quite a relief to not have to hide my true self.
Triptych !!DP4/G/5A6 replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #22,004
@21,999 (F)
My apologies, but trust me, it's true.
@previous (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
Gah. So Bowling For Soup were right.
My apologies, but trust me, it's true.
@previous (totoforhire !!Phkn/3Gic)
Gah. So Bowling For Soup were right.
Mindwurms !!4IKKtS9GG joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #22,011
@20,990 (E)
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What parts of the passage are the most misogynistic?
>
You can feel it in New York, where on a cold fall night at a lesbian bar called Meow Mix, a girl in a newsboy cap and a white T-shirt with rolled-up sleeves said to her friend, “Some femme … just some fucking femme. I met her at a party three weeks ago and I fucked her and that was cool. But now she’s like, e-mailing me and I’m just like, chill out, bitch!†Her chest was smooth and flat: She’d either had top surgery--a double mastectomy--or, more likely, she bound her breasts down to achieve the look. She thrust her forearm in front of her face as if she were rapping as she spoke: “Some of these chicks, it’s like you top them once and then they’re all up in your face. It’s like, did I get you off? Yes. Am I your new best friend? No. You know what I’m saying, bro?â€
>
> Her friend nodded and kept her eyes on the blonde go-go dancer in tiny white shorts undulating on a tabletop near the bar. “Bois like us,†she replied, “we’ve got to stick together.â€
>
> Her friend nodded and kept her eyes on the blonde go-go dancer in tiny white shorts undulating on a tabletop near the bar. “Bois like us,†she replied, “we’ve got to stick together.â€
What parts of the passage are the most misogynistic?
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #22,019
@22,004 (Triptych !!DP4/G/5A6)
No. Sorry making up opinions for imaginary people has no part in honest discourse.
No. Sorry making up opinions for imaginary people has no part in honest discourse.
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Triptych !!DP4/G/5A6 replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #22,095
@previous (F)
What makes you say that?
I'm speaking from what I've learned from being in high school, and from moderating/using boards filled with teenagers.
What makes you say that?
I'm speaking from what I've learned from being in high school, and from moderating/using boards filled with teenagers.
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #22,125
@previous (Triptych !!DP4/G/5A6)
Only firsthand, or sourced information is of any value in a situation such as this
Only firsthand, or sourced information is of any value in a situation such as this
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@22,004 (Triptych !!DP4/G/5A6)
You're 14 years old. Please do not try to act as if you know everything.
@previous (F)
This.
You're 14 years old. Please do not try to act as if you know everything.
@previous (F)
This.
Anonymous E replied with this 15 years ago, 4 hours later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #22,275
@22,011 (Mindwurms !!4IKKtS9GG)
> What parts of the passage are the most misogynistic?
The part where she treats the "femme" like a sexual plaything and not a person.
> What parts of the passage are the most misogynistic?
The part where she treats the "femme" like a sexual plaything and not a person.
Mindwurms !!4IKKtS9GG replied with this 15 years ago, 12 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #23,319
@previous (E)
I always thought of misogyny as a sign on "Bubba's Liquor Shack" reading:
"Unlike your wife, our prices can't be beat.
Unlike my daughter, our spirits won't run off to an arting school and marry a negro."
But I suppose misogyny could be seen as callous indifference or manipulation as well.
I always thought of misogyny as a sign on "Bubba's Liquor Shack" reading:
"Unlike your wife, our prices can't be beat.
Unlike my daughter, our spirits won't run off to an arting school and marry a negro."
But I suppose misogyny could be seen as callous indifference or manipulation as well.