Topic: Linux Mint is evil. WTF?
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 started this discussion 15 years ago #1,075
I installed Linux Mint on a flash drive just for the hell of it. I like to play around with these things. I boot from the flash drive, it takes forever for everything to load, and I can't even get the menu to start. WTF? So I restart the computer and for some reason the damn thing changed the boot record and I can't even get back into Windows. I didn't even tell it to do anything to my C drive. So I put in my Windows 7 disk, repair the boot record, and here I am, but jeez what a hassle. I've done this with Ubuntu and Kubuntu with no problem at all, so I'm never touching Linux Mint again.
Nexus !jNexusRe/. joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 33 seconds later[^] [v] #20,561
inb4 butthurt eels
henn !NePD4JH0HI joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #20,565
what
Nexus !jNexusRe/. replied with this 15 years ago, 43 seconds later, 3 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #20,566
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called it.
called it.
psychopath !PSYCHOhc32 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #20,568
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #20,571
psychopath !PSYCHOhc32 replied with this 15 years ago, 55 seconds later, 7 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #20,575
@previous (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
Banning someone on sight isn't a sign of being troll. It is a sign of mass butthurt.
Banning someone on sight isn't a sign of being troll. It is a sign of mass butthurt.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 9 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #20,578
psychopath !PSYCHOhc32 replied with this 15 years ago, 13 seconds later, 9 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #20,580
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I'm not mad, just tired as fuck.
I'm not mad, just tired as fuck.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 42 seconds later, 10 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #20,582
psychopath !PSYCHOhc32 replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 12 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #20,584
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> Arch Linux
> BSD
> Linux
> BSD
0/10
> Arch Linux
> BSD
> Linux
> BSD
0/10
sim !YSimmovT2U joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #20,612
Mint started to suck when they added special firefox shit to everything for ad revenue, which sucks. I don't want a custom Google page. And I don't feel I should have to tinker around to make it work normally as in any other distro. Mint was cool for 2 weeks until they sold out.
The Truth !!vSp31CfSr joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 44 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #20,615
> Linux
What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 49 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #20,636
what's the deal with nexus being a faggot troll in every thread?
grey !C.MxxuCiTo joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 11 hours later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,055
My friend wanted to play around with Linux so he tried mint. Lost of programs/packages were corrupt. I told him to try Ubuntu and hes been using it ever since.
I've recently tried to use Arch, but it would not boot at all. Then I read on their site that is has no gui.
> HEY! Lets make a car with no pedals or steering wheel! Also, you have to drive blindfolded.
I want to try something other than Ubuntu just for fun, but nothing seems to work as well as Ubuntu does.Ubuntu has only once given me trouble. Where as OSX/Windows/other Linux distros gives me trouble all the time.
I've recently tried to use Arch, but it would not boot at all. Then I read on their site that is has no gui.
> HEY! Lets make a car with no pedals or steering wheel! Also, you have to drive blindfolded.
I want to try something other than Ubuntu just for fun, but nothing seems to work as well as Ubuntu does.Ubuntu has only once given me trouble. Where as OSX/Windows/other Linux distros gives me trouble all the time.
Anonymous J replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,062
grey !C.MxxuCiTo replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,065
@previous (J)
I already have two macs and My whole school system used them so I've been using OSX/Macs for more time during my life than I have Windows/Linux and I can safely say that they most certainly do not "just work" as Apple tells you.
I already have two macs and My whole school system used them so I've been using OSX/Macs for more time during my life than I have Windows/Linux and I can safely say that they most certainly do not "just work" as Apple tells you.
Anonymous J replied with this 15 years ago, 10 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,076
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lol what is wrong with you LOL
I have had a macbook pro for like 3 years even dropped it a few times
never ever had an issue with it
we've had an imac for like 6 years
the power supply blew up on it a couple months ago so apple fixed it free of charge
What are you doing on these computers that they are not working?
I know that at my previous church they bought a new mac and managed to crash it a couple times. They were complete tards though, and I think they were probably using a buggy version of pro presenter 4
lol what is wrong with you LOL
I have had a macbook pro for like 3 years even dropped it a few times
never ever had an issue with it
we've had an imac for like 6 years
the power supply blew up on it a couple months ago so apple fixed it free of charge
What are you doing on these computers that they are not working?
I know that at my previous church they bought a new mac and managed to crash it a couple times. They were complete tards though, and I think they were probably using a buggy version of pro presenter 4
grey !C.MxxuCiTo replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,082
@previous (J)
OS crashes, file system corrupts, kernel panics, programs deciding never to ever work again when you turn it on one day.
Also when copying large ammounts of data from one drive to another, OSX likes to crash a lot and corrupt the files, ever since Tiger.
Also my old middle school got sick OSX, and now runs Linux on everything.
OS crashes, file system corrupts, kernel panics, programs deciding never to ever work again when you turn it on one day.
Also when copying large ammounts of data from one drive to another, OSX likes to crash a lot and corrupt the files, ever since Tiger.
Also my old middle school got sick OSX, and now runs Linux on everything.
Anonymous J replied with this 15 years ago, 13 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,092
@previous (grey !C.MxxuCiTo)
Like I said, what are you doing that causes it to run like this?
OSX has never crashed on any computer I have used, but the one at church did because the people using it were idiots.
Never had any of the problems you have stated. We use the same OS so you're obviously doing something majorly wrong.
Like I said, what are you doing that causes it to run like this?
OSX has never crashed on any computer I have used, but the one at church did because the people using it were idiots.
Never had any of the problems you have stated. We use the same OS so you're obviously doing something majorly wrong.
grey !C.MxxuCiTo replied with this 15 years ago, 9 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,107
Anonymous J replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,112
@previous (grey !C.MxxuCiTo)
It's not magic! You are doing something that is causing your machine to crash. You are running programs that your cheap computer can't handle, or you are think you are a hacker and are messing round in terminal, you are downloading random buggy programs, you are storing your files in some retarded way idk.
You are doing something wrong. Stop it.
It's not magic! You are doing something that is causing your machine to crash. You are running programs that your cheap computer can't handle, or you are think you are a hacker and are messing round in terminal, you are downloading random buggy programs, you are storing your files in some retarded way idk.
You are doing something wrong. Stop it.
AC !tyLmN8C16E joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 25 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,184
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 22 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,237
@20,615 (The Truth !!vSp31CfSr)Yes, I know that, but it's still called "Linux Mint." I'm not the one who put "Linux" in the name of that distro. Personally, I think I like Kubuntu best.
@20,612 (sim !YSimmovT2U)
Thanks for explaining. That actually makes sense.
@21,055 (grey !C.MxxuCiTo)
Try Kubuntu and Xubuntu. They're just Ubuntu with different desktop environments and some other changes.
@21,112 (J)
> the mac user thinks doing things in terminal is only for advanced "hackers"
> mfw
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,250
@previous (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
> Personally, I think I like Kubuntu best.
Oh wow. Same here. What did you think about the switch to KDE4 with Intrepid?
> Personally, I think I like Kubuntu best.
Oh wow. Same here. What did you think about the switch to KDE4 with Intrepid?
Anonymous O joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,261
Anonymous J replied with this 15 years ago, 31 seconds later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,262
@21,237 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
No, I don't. I am saying that someone, after spending time on /b/, thinks that they are an advanced hacker and proceeds to make actions that they don't fully understand.
No, I don't. I am saying that someone, after spending time on /b/, thinks that they are an advanced hacker and proceeds to make actions that they don't fully understand.
henn !NePD4JH0HI replied with this 15 years ago, 38 seconds later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,264
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 29 seconds later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,266
@21,250 (M)Dunno. Honestly I don't play that close attention. I just play around with it sometimes for the hell of it, and Kubuntu seems to be the most intuitive and user-friendly. I don't like that I'm constantly googling shit to figure out how to get it to do what I want it to do in other distros. Kubuntu: it just works.
henn !NePD4JH0HI replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,271
@previous (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
But that's how you learn.
Why are you using GNU/Linux anyway if you don't want to figure shit out.
But that's how you learn.
Why are you using GNU/Linux anyway if you don't want to figure shit out.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,276
@21,262 (J)
Well to me it almost sounded like "if it doesn't work it's because the stuff you're doing is too complicated and advanced. Just be an average mac user and don't do anything a simpleton mac user wouldn't do and everything will always work fine."
Well to me it almost sounded like "if it doesn't work it's because the stuff you're doing is too complicated and advanced. Just be an average mac user and don't do anything a simpleton mac user wouldn't do and everything will always work fine."
henn !NePD4JH0HI replied with this 15 years ago, 30 seconds later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,278
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Only for ease of use in my opinion.
Only for ease of use in my opinion.
Anonymous J replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,281
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el oh el
@21,276 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
No, I am saying if you are messing around in there, and then you start having major problems with your computer, it's hardly the OS' fault.
el oh el
@21,276 (Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4)
No, I am saying if you are messing around in there, and then you start having major problems with your computer, it's hardly the OS' fault.
Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 48 seconds later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,282
@21,271 (henn !NePD4JH0HI)
Well like I said, part of it is that I do like to play around with it and learn how to do stuff, but when simple things like getting a drive to mount and getting the time to synchronize with servers takes several terminal commands, it tells me the the desktop environment isn't doing it's job very well. In a good desktop environment, I can usually learn how to do things just by intuition and exploring the desktop environment. Any time I have to google the proper terminal command, I see that as a problem that they need to fix.
inb4 linux users tell me that that's what it's supposed to be all about
Well like I said, part of it is that I do like to play around with it and learn how to do stuff, but when simple things like getting a drive to mount and getting the time to synchronize with servers takes several terminal commands, it tells me the the desktop environment isn't doing it's job very well. In a good desktop environment, I can usually learn how to do things just by intuition and exploring the desktop environment. Any time I have to google the proper terminal command, I see that as a problem that they need to fix.
inb4 linux users tell me that that's what it's supposed to be all about
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Broseph !!fxnDb+Ve4 (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,287
@21,281 (J)
I doubt he was doing stuff like that. Also, if it's that easy to make the OS screw up, it doesn't really just work then. You really gotta be trying to fuck shit up in Windows to get the sort of errors he was talking about. Just playing around with shit shouldn't completely screw up your OS.
I doubt he was doing stuff like that. Also, if it's that easy to make the OS screw up, it doesn't really just work then. You really gotta be trying to fuck shit up in Windows to get the sort of errors he was talking about. Just playing around with shit shouldn't completely screw up your OS.
Anonymous J replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,290
henn !NePD4JH0HI replied with this 15 years ago, 40 seconds later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,293
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KDE's gui resembles Windows. It's easier for people to use and navigate. Making more people want to use it.
KDE's gui resembles Windows. It's easier for people to use and navigate. Making more people want to use it.
henn !NePD4JH0HI double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,297
henn !NePD4JH0HI triple-posted this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,301
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To a person that is more familiar with Windows.
> implying that looking like something means its a clone of something
To a person that is more familiar with Windows.
> implying that looking like something means its a clone of something
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henn !NePD4JH0HI quadruple-posted this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,310
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I'm sure advance and beginning users use either desktop environments.
I'm sure advance and beginning users use either desktop environments.
henn !NePD4JH0HI quintuple-posted this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,318
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Both are configurable. One is more configurable. The beginning user could care less on how to configure.
Ease of use for those two major desktop environments is entirely subjective.
Both are configurable. One is more configurable. The beginning user could care less on how to configure.
Ease of use for those two major desktop environments is entirely subjective.
henn !NePD4JH0HI sextuple-posted this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,325
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Also, I never said Gnome is for advanced users. You implied it.
I just think KDE is easier for beginners to use.
Also, I never said Gnome is for advanced users. You implied it.
I just think KDE is easier for beginners to use.
henn !NePD4JH0HI septuple-posted this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,329
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Stop trolling me
Stop trolling me
Anonymous J replied with this 15 years ago, 33 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,387
You don't much from apart from trolling and shitposts. Careful, he'll blame you for his trolling
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Anonymous P joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 23 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #21,430
Just get a Mac. It works!