Anonymous B replied with this 3 years ago, 13 minutes later, 56 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,207,194
@previous (C)
Oligarchic propaganda to encourage infighting. Because when there's infighting, no one asks if there's an alternative to the two options sharing the same group of benefactors.
Anonymous C replied with this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,207,197
@1,207,194 (B)
You're not wrong, but the simple fact of the matter is, in our current state of affairs, as our system exists now, not voting is as good as voting republican, a party that has shifted so far to the right that most mainstream republicans are openly fascist. I am not throwing that around as a buzzword to indicate "policies I don't like". They are literally fascist. If you care about rights and freedoms in the "land of the free," you cannot afford to support that ideology.
Anonymous C replied with this 3 years ago, 14 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,207,211
@previous (B)
If you truly believe democrats are just as bad as republicans in the year 2022, you've lost the plot. But I don't think you actually believe that. More likely you support fascist policies because you naively believe that this time, fascism will only hurt the right people, and you will come out unscathed. But you don't yet feel comfortable coming out in support of it, so instead you put on a BS air of enlightened centrism to try to discourage people from voting against your misguided interests.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 3 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,207,214
Every minichan user whom votes will get one free MiniCoin NFT(tm). It's like owning a pretend shitcoin, but even less valuable than that. If you vote for the Democrats, you get 2.
Anonymous B replied with this 3 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,207,218
@1,207,211 (C)
That's a lot of assumption from so oh so little! No, I don't consider myself a centrist. No, I do not think it makes sense to collapse politics into a single axis, or even a single quadrant.
Anonymous C replied with this 3 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,207,220
@previous (B)
The tired "both sides" rhetoric these days is often a thin veil to disguise far right, authoritarian beliefs. You sound exactly like that. If you aren't a fascist, you're a fool and a puppet for actual fascists, which is just as dangerous.
Anonymous B replied with this 3 years ago, 19 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,207,222
@previous (C)
You're framing me as some type of enemy without even trying to understand what I believe. Decided I'm on some opposite team that you've imagined without ever seeing me play a single move. This is the infighting I mentioned earlier. I suspect we're actually on the same team.
Anonymous C replied with this 3 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,207,225
@previous (B) > Useless, futile, time-wasting activity to placate the morons of society. Thanks.
No, we are not on the same "team." Not voting is allowing fascism to march into our country.
Anonymous B replied with this 3 years ago, 9 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,207,228
@previous (C)
Reminds me of the red scare, being tough on crime, the war on drugs, the war on terrorism. If you're not with us, you're against us!
If you take "team" to mean, we agree exactly on how to solve every problem under the sun and share every thought (whatever that may mean), then no, we are not on the same team.
But if you take "team" to mean we share similar values, ethical, and philosophical principles, then, I suspect that we are on the same team.
Anonymous C replied with this 3 years ago, 7 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,207,230
@previous (B) > Reminds me of the red scare, being tough on crime, the war on drugs, the war on terrorism. If you're not with us, you're against us!
The difference is, we are actually seeing the rise of fascism in America happening right before our eyes. The evidence is there for all to see. > If you take "team" to mean, we agree exactly on how to solve every problem under the sun and share every thought (whatever that may mean), then no, we are not on the same team.
In this case, my "team" does not want my country to devolve into a 1930s Germany-esque fascist hellhole. If you're on that same team, you need to vote, and don't let some bullshit "both sides" or "voting is pointless" propaganda to stop you from taking steps to help ensure it doesn't happen. Look at what republican candidates across the board are advocating for, and tell me that voting for democrats to ensure they don't get in office isn't a worthwhile way to spend twenty minutes of your day tomorrow.
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 3 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,207,231
@previous (C)
Many are openly saying “If I win, Republicans will never lose another election” and refusing to accept the results of the election unless they win.
Anonymous B replied with this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,207,232
@1,207,230 (C)
I only need to replace a few words in your post to arrive at a full on McCarthy-era red scare doomer post. The 1950s is back and it's dumber than ever!
Anyway, I'm getting tired of this. And for me that says a lot. The sad thing is: I can't tell if you're trolling or honestly this stupid. But if I knew, it wouldn't be good ol' minichan that we all know and love.
Anonymous C replied with this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,207,234
@1,207,231 (E)
Exactly, but according to @previous (B) that isn't happening, the proof isn't real or doesn't exist, we are imagining it, or it's just scare tactics by the democrats.
> The tired "both sides" rhetoric these days is often a thin veil to disguise far right, authoritarian beliefs. You sound exactly like that. If you aren't a fascist, you're a fool and a puppet for actual fascists, which is just as dangerous.
You're not paying attention to a single thing he's actually writing. Instead you're just hell bent on calling anyone who thinks differently to you a "fascist" or "stupid". Which are tactics that have brought the American left to the pathetic position in which they now find themselves.
Anonymous C replied with this 3 years ago, 7 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,207,249
@previous (G)
He isn't saying anything besides "voting is pointless" which IS stupid when the stakes are this high. And yes, spreading this sentiment that voting doesn't work is straight out of the fascist playbook. It's just another tactic to get people to not vote. If that isn't his intention, then he has been misled by people with that intention. You aren't paying attention to what I'm saying, apparently. Go fuck a shit up your ass.
Anonymous C replied with this 3 years ago, 5 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,207,251
@previous (G)
There was no waffling or ad hominem in my post. Feel free to come up with an actual argument rather than the bullshit MAGA default "you just call everyone who disagrees with you fascist!" which does not apply here if you actually read what I wrote.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 15 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,207,288
@previous (H)
I'm not debating him, there's nothing to debate. He thinks democrats are good, Republicans are evil,and there is no gray area. Don't bother debating with these people, they obviously don't take everything into consideration. He really should lay off the booze, tho.
Anonymous H replied with this 3 years ago, 29 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,207,294
@previous (A)
You know reading this back I'm not sure he actually disagrees with you as such. Yes he obviously doesn't like the Republicans but he's mainly speaking against voter apathy, because he thinks it's advantageous to Republicans.
You can both agree that it's good to get out there and vote!
Anonymous C replied with this 3 years ago, 8 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,207,298
@previous (H)
This. I never once said that democrats are good. They are the lesser of two evils. Republicans are actively trying to disrupt the democratic process, on top of stripping the people's rights away. Not voting against that (not FOR democrats, but AGAINST republicans) is letting your country crumble just because your ego is too big to vote for a party you don't completely agree with.
Anonymous B replied with this 3 years ago, 36 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,207,307
@1,207,298 (C)
It's like choosing to vote for Stalin or Hitler, except they're both 80+ years old, senile, and funded by the same people. Count me out of that election lol. But feel free to waste your own time.
You know, it'd be pretty ironic if, with all your manufactured rage, one of your family members was known to be involved with a Republican like Rick Perry. It'd be even more ironic if that involvement consisted of attempting to defraud a sovereign Eastern European nation.
Anonymous C replied with this 3 years ago, 8 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,207,310
@previous (B)
My family or their actions are wholly unrelated to my own beliefs. What kind of argument is that? But it isn't like voting for Stalin or Hitler. It's like voting for a piece of toast or Hitler. The toasted bread won't really improve things, because it's just a piece of bread, but it won't actively destroy our country.
Anonymous B replied with this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 17 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,207,312
@previous (C) > My family or their actions are wholly unrelated to my own beliefs.
Not if you're a millionaire with an inheritance from said family.
> It's like voting for a piece of toast or Hitler. The toasted bread won't really improve things, because it's just a piece of bread, but it won't actively destroy our country.
Anonymous C replied with this 3 years ago, 5 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,207,317
@previous (B)
Taking an inheritance doesn't mean I agree with them. Who do you think I am anyway? Go on, say it.
> No it isn't. Yes it will.
What Democrat policies are anywhere as dangerous as destroying the integrity of our elections, and taking away people's rights under the guise of religious righteousness?
> Taking an inheritance doesn't mean I agree with them. Who do you think I am anyway? Go on, say it.
Many, especially those that are more liberal minded disagree. Many are not willing to let their universities be funded by fossil fuels, or pedophiles, or rapists. Maybe you disagree with the mainstream dogma of the Democratic party? Maybe even you have some sense of nuance in your belief?
> >No it isn't. Yes it will. > What Democrat policies are anywhere as dangerous as destroying the integrity of our elections, and taking away people's rights under the guise of religious righteousness?
All of them. In america, you get what you pay for. That's why so many corporations fund both parties at once.
Anonymous C replied with this 3 years ago, 2 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,207,325
@previous (B) > Maybe you disagree with the mainstream dogma of the Democratic party? Maybe even you have some sense of nuance in your belief?
If you would read what I write instead of making idiotic assumptions, you would know this.
Anonymous B replied with this 3 years ago, 46 seconds later, 17 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,207,326
@1,207,317 (C)
Oh, sorry, I forgot to answer your question.
I think you are Matthew Rosteet Miller from Lafayette, Louisiana. I believe you are related to the Marsden Miller that Time magazine described in its article about the attempted defrauding of Ukraine.
> >Maybe you disagree with the mainstream dogma of the Democratic party? Maybe even you have some sense of nuance in your belief? > If you would read what I write instead of making idiotic assumptions, you would know this.
Which post are you referring to? Go on, say it.
> >All of them > Such as? Please be specific.
Do your own research.
Anonymous C replied with this 3 years ago, 5 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,207,338
@previous (A)
Tell me about how I am. I've already described how you're spreading fascist propaganda, courtesy of our good friends China and Russia. Being against that is not "leftist propaganda."
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 3 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,207,348
@previous (C)
What exactly are you referring to then? All I've actually said in this draad is to vote, and to vote for whomever people think is right. Meanwhile, you've been mudslinging and accusing people who disagree with you of being fascists. 🤔🤔🤔
Anonymous C replied with this 3 years ago, 6 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,207,355
@1,207,348 (A)
Admittedly I got you and Anonymous B mixed up. You have similar text voices. Again though, I'm not calling people fascist because they disagree with me. I've explained my position on that multiple times in this very thread. You're using that as a way to disregard anything I say as somehow invalid. "He just calls everyone fascist, don't listen to him lol." It's the same tactic people have been using since Trump was elected to brush off any and all criticism of the GOP. "The left just calls everyone nazis, they're obviously hysterical!" Then they ignore the arguments without giving them a second thought.
Anonymous C replied with this 3 years ago, 5 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,207,410
@1,207,396 (B)
Why? What was incorrect about what I said? Please Google the definition of "relative." Thanks.
@previous (A)
You really are out of touch if you think the media is calling out fascism for what it is. The media plays hard into the "both sides" bullshit.