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Topic: Police in 1964 vs 2022

Anonymous A started this discussion 3 years ago #107,352

Externally hosted imageI recently watched a documentary about a cross-country trip in 1964. A group of a half dozen people took LSD and speed in a modded school-bus. This was before the hippy movement existed. None of the people in the documentary even had long hair.

They were stopped by the police several times and not once was the van searched, anyone put in cuffs or arrested. No drug dogs (no such thing in 1964!), no "PUT YOUR HANDS WERE I CAN SEE THEM", no anal cavity searches, etc. No mention or problem even with them sitting on the roof of the bus while it was driving through NYC and other roadways.

While there's a lot better about 2022 than 1964, it seems a lot has gotten far worse for no good reason.

If you like watching old footage of cities, especially in color, check it out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_l1aqwX3KQ

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JIM joined in and replied with this 3 years ago, 1 minute later[^] [v] #1,205,770

@OP

> I recently watched a documentary about a cross-country trip in 1964. A group of a half dozen people took LSD and speed in a modded school-bus. This was before the hippy movement existed. None of the people in the documentary even had long hair.
>
> They were stopped by the police several times and not once was the van searched, anyone put in cuffs or arrested. No drug dogs (no such thing in 1964!), no "PUT YOUR HANDS WERE I CAN SEE THEM", no anal cavity searches, etc. No mention or problem even with them sitting on the roof of the bus while it was driving through NYC and other roadways.
>
> While there's a lot better about 2022 than 1964, it seems a lot has gotten far worse for no good reason.
>
> If you like watching old footage of cities, especially in color, check it out:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_l1aqwX3KQ

Thanks.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,773

@previous (JIM)
np

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC joined in and replied with this 3 years ago, 4 minutes later, 8 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,775

I had a resident who was a cop in the 70s. He was such a fucking shithead

He would laugh about Billy clubbing hippies and forcing prostitutes to give him free sex

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Joshy Revere joined in and replied with this 3 years ago, 10 minutes later, 18 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,786

@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
So ACAB is timeless I guess.

Meta !Sober//iZs joined in and replied with this 3 years ago, 2 minutes later, 20 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,790

From what I've seen (ie photos and videos) cops were more chill in some ways. They carried revolvers and didn't have body armor. They could also beat the shit out of you and kill you without HD video of the whole thing from ten different angles plus body cams.

I think the root cause is America was more libertarian in the past and more authoritarian now. It's not whether we have Democrats or Republicans in power, but sliding down to authoritarianism which creates a police state. The current fight is not so much whether we should have a police state, but who it should harass.

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boof joined in and replied with this 3 years ago, 5 minutes later, 26 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,792

another red flag is when a government encourages the populace to suspect each other and be "a nation of finks" as William S. Burroughs put it

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 7 seconds later, 26 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,793

@1,205,775 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Did you know any that were older? Just over 10 years before, I suspect most cops were quite different. From what I understand, that was around the start of the transition from the Andy Griffith-style friendly small town cop, to the professional shitheads we have now.

Even in movies from that era, you can see cops still depicted in that way. Like a distraught mom, or dad coming in to literally yell at the police about not doing more to find their child. I can't imagine seeing something like that in a movie today.

Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 3 years ago, 9 seconds later, 26 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,794

@1,205,775 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Cops didn't force them. Prostitutes made their payoffs to the cops by swallowing a few loads to keep themselves on the streets and making money.

boof replied with this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 27 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,795

this one cop, he could make all sorts of noises with his mouth

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 3 years ago, 3 minutes later, 31 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,796

@1,205,794 (G)
I understand how it works. It was immoral for them to do and probably rape

Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 3 years ago, 10 seconds later, 31 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,798

@1,205,795 (boof)
Michael Winslow?

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 3 years ago, 6 seconds later, 31 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,799

@1,205,793 (A)
Not as far as I know

boof replied with this 3 years ago, 55 seconds later, 32 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,800

@1,205,798 (H)
yes he is

Anonymous D replied with this 3 years ago, 46 seconds later, 33 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,801

@1,205,790 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
*whom

Anonymous D double-posted this 3 years ago, 52 seconds later, 34 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,803

@1,205,794 (G)
> cops didn’t force them

Hahahahahahahahahaha

boof replied with this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 35 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,804

"here's your get out of jail free card" *unloads cock*

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 36 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,805

@1,205,803 (D)
This is how many men think

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 15 seconds later, 37 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,806

@1,205,790 (Meta !Sober//iZs)

> They could also beat the shit out of you and kill you without HD video of the whole thing from ten different angles plus body cams.
I get the impression that it hasn't been as great of a deterrent as one would've hoped since judges and DAs seem all too hesitant to punish or question the police. There's been way too many cases of police brutality and murder done directly in front of one or more people obviously filming the whole thing.

But I obv agree with what you're saying overall.

The real thing that this era didn't had going for it was the elephant in the room of race relations. But it seems we've (almost) entirely fixed that by treating everyone as if they're a black man in white-only neighborhood in 1950.

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Anonymous G replied with this 3 years ago, 30 seconds later, 37 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,807

@1,205,796 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
It wasn't even close to rape. It was their payoff to keep out of jail.

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 39 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,808

@previous (G)
Okay bro

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 3 years ago, 2 minutes later, 41 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,812

@1,205,807 (G)
"Give me a blowjob or you go to prison" is like the textbook definition of coercing someone into nonconsenual sex aka rape.

Anonymous G replied with this 3 years ago, 22 seconds later, 42 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,813

@1,205,808 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
A dumb woman who thinks she's wise. Nothing more hilarious LOL

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 3 years ago, 35 seconds later, 42 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,814

@previous (G)
Okay

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 3 years ago, 53 seconds later, 43 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,815

@1,205,790 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
> America was more libertarian
That depends a lot on who you were and where you lived. Not sure a black guy in Mississippi would think that he had more liberty in 1950 than he does today, same with basically all women, etc.

Anonymous D replied with this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 45 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,816

@1,205,807 (G)
How do those boots taste? ACAB

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 3 years ago, 3 minutes later, 49 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,818

@1,205,813 (G)
They would go to women who hadn't been convicted of a crime and say have sex with me (commit a crime) or you will be arrested

Frequently they would cuff these women and then force them to have sex

You are a piece of shit

Anonymous G replied with this 3 years ago, 42 seconds later, 49 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,819

@1,205,812 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
You didn't go to prison for prostitution jesus you are as melodramatic as kook. Payoffs have been made on the streets since the 1920's prostitutes would always rather make their payoffs by mouth than with money. Prostitution is not a felony even today it is only a second class misdemeanor. They would only spend at the most 24 hours in jail.

Anonymous G double-posted this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 50 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,820

@1,205,818 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
And you are a dumb melodramatic cunt. Now kindly fuck off.

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 3 years ago, 3 minutes later, 54 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,821

@previous (G)
You support rape. What does that make you

LadyD !Pool..v42s joined in and replied with this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 55 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,822

@1,205,807 (G)
Have you ever heard of coconut Island?

Anonymous G replied with this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 57 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,823

@1,205,821 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
You don't have a fucking clue to what I support. Again, shut up you melodramatic keyboard crusader who doesn't know shit about street life. You're a fool.

LadyD !Pool..v42s replied with this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 59 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,824

Anyways here's the urban dictionary summary and the associated copypasta

Coconut Island is an analogy to the coercion that naturally takes place when there is a power imbalance. The analogy is a rebuttal to the idea of "voluntary interactions" under the framework of anarcho-capitalism. The analogy goes as follows. You are on a plane which crash lands onto an island. You are one of the two only survivors. While you were unconscious, the other survivor gathered all of the coconuts on the island (the only source of food) into a pile, sheltered that pile with all the wreckage of the plane, and declare they own it. And they say they are willing to give you some coconuts if you throat your cock. The question then presented is, "Is that a voluntary interaction?"

Let's say you're on a plane. That plane crashes and there are only a few survivals, in fact there are only two. You wake up after the other guy does, so he had enough time to collect and claim all the coconuts there were found in the island and he says he's willing to give you a set of coconuts, if you throat their cock. Now, I'm asking you, would you consider that as a voluntary source of interchange?

LadyD !Pool..v42s double-posted this 3 years ago, 48 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,825

@previous (LadyD !Pool..v42s)
Or
Let's 🥺 say 💬😍 you're on 🔛 a plane ✈. That plane ✈ crashes 🔥🚘💥 and there are only a few survivals 🙏, in fact 📕🏫🔍 there are only two 💏. You 👈 wake ⏰ up ☝ after 👀 the other guy 👨 does, so he 👨 had enough 💦 time ⏱⏰ to collect ⚗ and claim 🌊 all 💯 the coconuts 🥥 there were found 🔎 in the island 🌴 and he 👨 says 🗣 he's 👥 willing 📃🅱 to give 👉 you 👈 a set 📐 of coconuts 🥥, if you 👈 throat 😝 their cock 🍆. Now, I'm 💘 asking 🙏 you 👉🏻, would you 👈 consider 🤔 that as a voluntary ⛑ source 📰 of interchange?

LadyD !Pool..v42s triple-posted this 3 years ago, 32 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,826

@previous (LadyD !Pool..v42s)
Or even

Wet's say you'we on a pwane. That pwane cwashes and thewe awe onwy a few suwvivaws, in fact thewe awe onwy two. You wake up aftew the othew guy does, so he had enough time to cowwect and cwaim aww the coconuts thewe wewe found in the iswand and he says he's wiwwing to give you a set of coconuts, if you thwoat theiw cock. Now, I'm asking you, wouwd you considew that as a vowuntawy souwce of intewchange?

LadyD !Pool..v42s quadruple-posted this 3 years ago, 24 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,827

So, is it?

Anonymous G replied with this 3 years ago, 7 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,828

@1,205,822 (LadyD !Pool..v42s)
I went to a place called coconut island off the coast of Negril one time. But I'm sure there is more than one island named that.

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,829

@1,205,823 (G)
I do by what you type, retard

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,830

@1,205,826 (LadyD !Pool..v42s)
He isn't smart enough to understand your analogy no matter how you type it

Anonymous G replied with this 3 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,831

@1,205,829 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Right because you live your fucking life and judge people by this shithole. You need to get out and experience the real world maybe....might drive you back to reality. Instead of this fantasy world that spins in your head.

LadyD !Pool..v42s replied with this 3 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,832

@previous (G)
Let's say you're on a plane. That plane crashes and there are only a few survivals, in fact there are only two. You wake up after the other guy does, so he had enough time to collect and claim all the coconuts there were found in the island and he says he's willing to give you a set of coconuts, if you throat their cock. Now, I'm asking you, would you consider that as a voluntary source of interchange?

Anonymous G replied with this 3 years ago, 18 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,833

@1,205,830 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)

> He isn't smart enough to understand your analogy no matter how you type it

So you think you need smarts to compare what his post is insinuating to a real life situation? Jesus you really are out of touch with life and reality.

Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,834

@1,205,815 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
The "America was more libertarian in the past" is not necessarily a perfect, universal, thing. I mean for most people, most of the time. Yes the 1950s was not the ideal time to be black in Mississippi. That doesn't mean it's a good thing the Podunk County Sheriff is militarized today.

Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 3 years ago, 40 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,835

faggots with smart phones tainting
most of their existence cannot begin to grasp this experience.

Anonymous G replied with this 3 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,836

@1,205,832 (LadyD !Pool..v42s)
Dude I am talking about real life here. Survival on the streets to make a living, not some made up shit like this. Come on and stay real here. We are talking about prostitutes trying to stay out of jail and keep working and making money at an illegal trade. This is real life here not some MC fantasy role play.

Anonymous D replied with this 3 years ago, 23 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,837

@previous (G)
ACAB

LadyD !Pool..v42s replied with this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,838

@1,205,833 (G)
But the analogy shows an inherently coercive action when there is not an equal balance of power. Ie, the prostitute only has to bribe the police officer because he wields power over her. If the power imbalance was equalized, or at least less uneven, the prostitute wouldn't have to blow the cop, but then could choose to blow the cop because they wanted to

Anonymous D replied with this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,839

@previous (LadyD !Pool..v42s)
Correct.

LadyD !Pool..v42s replied with this 3 years ago, 23 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,840

@1,205,836 (G)
Yeah, in real life it's bad when cops get sex from prostitutes in exchange for favors because the police have the power in that exchange and it's unfair. I mean sure, from the prostitutes point of view it's probably better to blow the cop in order to have protection, but it's the domination of the police power structure that gives them that reasoning

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 3 years ago, 15 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,841

@1,205,831 (G)
By what you post in this shithole. You control what you type

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,842

@1,205,833 (G)
I think that while not much is needed, you lack even that

Its embarrassing

Anonymous G replied with this 3 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,843

@1,205,838 (LadyD !Pool..v42s)
And the pross has a choice too. You seem to forget this. She can let herself get arrested, spend the night in jail and pay the fine, but she chooses not to. This comes with the territory of making money illegally. They aren't handcuffed and forced to suck a dick. It is cheaper and easier to suck the dick so they do that. Nobody if forcing them, they choose this way to make a living. They know they have to make their payoff going into this business.

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 3 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,844

@previous (G)
They are forcing women to have sex who haven't been convicted of a crime and yes they are sometimes are handcuffed and forced to have sex

You can Google and find many instances of that happening

Anonymous G replied with this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,845

@1,205,842 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Again and for the last time. You are just a stupid, out of touch with reality, keyboard crusader on an internet forum who has lost touch with reality and thinks life is how you make it up in your fantasy world mind. It is easy for you since you live out your life here. I actually feel bad about fucking with you because I can see you really need help.

LadyD !Pool..v42s replied with this 3 years ago, 11 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,846

@1,205,843 (G)
Let's say you're on a plane. That plane crashes and there are only a few survivals, in fact there are only two. You wake up after the other guy does, so he had enough time to collect and claim all the coconuts there were found in the island and he says he's willing to give you a set of coconuts, if you throat their cock. Now, I'm asking you, would you consider that as a voluntary source of interchange?

Anonymous G replied with this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,847

@1,205,844 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Real life is not google and the internet.

LadyD !Pool..v42s replied with this 3 years ago, 23 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,848

@1,205,843 (G)
So she can be extorded and held against her will because she didn't play along with a corrupt policeman

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 3 years ago, 10 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,849

@1,205,845 (G)
You call me out of touch because I notice that you support rape

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 3 years ago, 25 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,850

@1,205,847 (G)
You can use Google to look up many real life instances of cops raping women

Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 3 years ago, 19 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,853

Were the people in the documentadle white? If they were black it’s a whole different situation.

Anonymous L double-posted this 3 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,854

@1,205,825 (LadyD !Pool..v42s)
Wtf? Foreshadowing with the 💑 emoji?

Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 3 years ago, 16 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,855

@1,205,847 (G)
And your real life experiences involve blowing corrupt police officers?

LadyD !Pool..v42s replied with this 3 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,858

@1,205,854 (L)
Lmao I didn't even notice it

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 3 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,860

@1,205,855 (M)
If it were happening to men, maybe he would give a shit

Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 3 years ago, 44 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,864

@1,205,845 (G)
Sadly, not everyone's daily reality is just 24 hours of sucking biker's dicks. I know, it's hard to imagine that other people are living in such a different reality where they have to stop touching sweaty penis occasionally

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 25 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,867

@1,205,853 (L)
How exactly does the fact they are white matter here?

There were obviously other problems in the 1960s, as mentioned earlier. The civil rights movement hadn't fully kicked off yet.

But I don't see the connection. Are you suggesting we needed to usher in a police state to not have racial segregation, among many other issues? Because that makes no sense.

boof replied with this 3 years ago, 55 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,873

Throat me, throat me
Could be a coconut, you move quite well
Throat me, Throat me
Throat me, Throat me
You got your coconut
Throat me, Throat me
Say you're a winner but man you're just a sinner now

--The Throat by Billy Squier

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 6 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,205,876

@previous (boof)
Now everybody
Stroke me, stroke me
Stroke me, stroke me
Stroke me, stroke me
Stroke me, stroke me
Do it
I'm going to cum
Ah
Ah ah ah ah

--I'm Cumming by Billy Squier
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