Topic: Why don't more people like Ubuntu?
Anonymous A started this discussion 15 years ago #10,730
I'm trying it out on my netbook now and I gotta say it's pretty fucking sweet. Sure I had to tweak that ugly sidebar: reduce the icon size to something sensible, stop it from popping in and out all the time, and turn off the cartoonish multicolored back-lighting. But I gotta say, it's certainly the most flexible OS ever, even if perhaps it's not the most intuitive.
So what gives? Why only 12 million users? Are games really that important?
So what gives? Why only 12 million users? Are games really that important?
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 41 seconds later[^] [v] #191,348
i foresee great things to happen in this thread
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 9 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #191,354
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 11 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #191,355
Because not everyone is a virgin
cat !COOOOOLbus joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 51 seconds later, 12 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #191,356
dreamworks !AUIkTW/L46 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 14 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #191,358
because its a change and people dont like changes
regarding computers at least
regarding computers at least
cat !COOOOOLbus replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #191,361
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 50 seconds later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #191,364
@191,355 (D)
What is it about non-virgins anyway? Why so proud to be used up for free? I mean, if your worked an entire day at McDonalds for free would you fucking brag about it?
And spare me your bullshit about how she was fucking model material and the sex was amazing. I know the truth. It tasted good for a bit but now it's all been flushed down the toilet, just like that McChicken you ate.
What is it about non-virgins anyway? Why so proud to be used up for free? I mean, if your worked an entire day at McDonalds for free would you fucking brag about it?
And spare me your bullshit about how she was fucking model material and the sex was amazing. I know the truth. It tasted good for a bit but now it's all been flushed down the toilet, just like that McChicken you ate.
dreamworks !AUIkTW/L46 replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 18 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #191,366
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 27 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #191,370
Ubuntu sucks because nobody uses it. This is how people think. Sad but true.
Ks joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 9 minutes later, 36 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #191,383
Ubuntu is a fucking sweet OS really. I would use linux almost exclusively if not for my wireless card not being supported, I've read about people getting it working, but I just never could get it working. If linux had support for more games, the tide would turn on Windows. Linux is awesome sauce, but it intimidates a lot of people (including me), I know when its linux time its time for frustration. I use a few linux tools to fix computers sometimes, and I couldn't imagine not having them. Hell I'm using linux Mint running off a flash drive right now, its no Ubuntu, but its not half bad.
Anonymous C replied with this 15 years ago, 37 seconds later, 36 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #191,384
@191,366 (dreamworks !AUIkTW/L46)
Windows users have adopted to Mac bullshit. The problem is that Linux is still to complicated for the average user. The average user doesn't know what a console is, and if it's not practically a turn key system --I give them no more than 1 hour with it.
Windows users have adopted to Mac bullshit. The problem is that Linux is still to complicated for the average user. The average user doesn't know what a console is, and if it's not practically a turn key system --I give them no more than 1 hour with it.
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 40 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #191,385
ITT: we must bring our brilliant OS to the unwashed masses!
Anonymous G replied with this 15 years ago, 26 seconds later, 40 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #191,386
@191,383 (Ks)
That's another thing about Linux. Hardware makers still have a stick up their ass about the whole "open source" ideology.
It's the ideology that kills Linux, not the technology.
That's another thing about Linux. Hardware makers still have a stick up their ass about the whole "open source" ideology.
It's the ideology that kills Linux, not the technology.
Anonymous C replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 45 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #191,387
@previous (G)
Linux tried to reinvent the wheel. They need to be on phones and other devices. There's new niches to fill, and linux could be a very, very flexible platform. Look what happened with Apache.
Linux tried to reinvent the wheel. They need to be on phones and other devices. There's new niches to fill, and linux could be a very, very flexible platform. Look what happened with Apache.
Nexus !jNexusRe/. joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 44 seconds later, 45 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #191,388
@191,383 (Ks)
What sort of games are you trying to play? I have had pretty good luck with Wine, whatever didn't run was easy enough to tweak to run decently.
> Hell I'm using linux Mint running off a flash drive right now, its no Ubuntu, but its not half bad.
Linux Mint is an offshoot of Ubuntu, like Ubuntu is an offshoot of Debian.
If you can use your wireless card on Linux Mint, the driver exists for using it on Ubuntu.
What sort of games are you trying to play? I have had pretty good luck with Wine, whatever didn't run was easy enough to tweak to run decently.
> Hell I'm using linux Mint running off a flash drive right now, its no Ubuntu, but its not half bad.
Linux Mint is an offshoot of Ubuntu, like Ubuntu is an offshoot of Debian.
If you can use your wireless card on Linux Mint, the driver exists for using it on Ubuntu.
Meowth joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 47 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #191,389
I prefer RedHat. For my netbook I admit eeeBuntu is sick. I just prefer my Windows 7. No reason to change to Ubuntu.
Ks replied with this 15 years ago, 30 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #191,399
@191,388 (Nexus !jNexusRe/.)
I haven't messed with any games on Linux since I can't get my wireless card to work.
> If you can use your wireless card on Linux Mint, the driver exists for using it on Ubuntu.
I've never got it to work on any Linux OS, but to be fair I haven't tried too hard, I've got better things to do. I may try it again soon. I've toyed/linux countless times over the years, but I've never made the leap, if I ever get my wireless card working I'll make the leap.
I haven't messed with any games on Linux since I can't get my wireless card to work.
> If you can use your wireless card on Linux Mint, the driver exists for using it on Ubuntu.
I've never got it to work on any Linux OS, but to be fair I haven't tried too hard, I've got better things to do. I may try it again soon. I've toyed/linux countless times over the years, but I've never made the leap, if I ever get my wireless card working I'll make the leap.
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #191,406
@previous (Ks)
What kind of wireless card do you have? Don't hesitate to make a thread or something next time you get in a mood to play around.
What kind of wireless card do you have? Don't hesitate to make a thread or something next time you get in a mood to play around.
Ks replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #191,410
@previous (L)
Cool! I got some shit to finish up tonight, but I'll make a thread in the next few days, it'll be nice to solve the issue once and for all.
Cool! I got some shit to finish up tonight, but I'll make a thread in the next few days, it'll be nice to solve the issue once and for all.
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 33 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #191,449
Because Ubuntu fucking sucks. If Ubuntu were any good they'd sell computers with the OS preinstalled, same as they do for Windows and Mac.
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Ks replied with this 15 years ago, 10 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #191,459
Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 11 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #191,477
I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linuxâ€, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux†distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linuxâ€, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux†distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
Nexus !jNexusRe/. replied with this 15 years ago, 46 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #191,518
Anonymous O joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #191,577
@191,386 (G)
The GNU freetards are holding back Linux more than anything else. Just ask Torvalds.
@191,449 (M)
> If Ubuntu were any good they'd sell computers with the OS preinstalled
Not if Microsoft has anything to say about it.
Shit like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qj8p-PEwbI doesn't help, either.
The GNU freetards are holding back Linux more than anything else. Just ask Torvalds.
@191,449 (M)
> If Ubuntu were any good they'd sell computers with the OS preinstalled
Not if Microsoft has anything to say about it.
Shit like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qj8p-PEwbI doesn't help, either.
Unintentional Jackass !LASXURl1b6 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 42 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #191,616
My wifi thingum is incompatible with Linux, so it is impractical.
Anonymous N replied with this 15 years ago, 2 hours later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #191,741
@191,577 (O)
191,616
I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linuxâ€, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux†distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
191,616
I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linuxâ€, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux†distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
Meta !PARAdoxiHw joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #191,748
For the same reason so many people use Internet Explorer. Winderp comes pre-installed on their machine and it works alright for checking Facebook and watching YouTube and word processing, so they never see any reason to change. Some people won't use Linux because of gaming or hardware incompatibilities or because they think you have to be a hardcore 1337 H4X0R to use it (even though my grandmother can install Ubuntu). And with no marketing budget, this will not change. Linux is dominant in servers and supercomputers, and is on the majority of smartphones (Android), but will never get beyond 1-2% on the desktop for these reasons.
Ks joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 18 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #191,756
@previous (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
Linux would get a lot more users if they would focus on becoming more user friendly, hell even looking through the repository can be confusing, much less trying to configure it for unsupported hardware etc. Tons of people try linux and quickly give up, the user-base grows at a snails because of the learning curve, Windows is very pointy clicky and Microsoft tries to make everything pretty simple (even though they royally fuck up on some things). Ubuntu is pretty nice for people new to linux, but only on the surface, try to get new user to compile and install a package and watch them quit real quick. The linux community only has itself to blame at this point, hopefully things will get better. I like that there are a lot of distros for example, some of them are fucking perfect for what they are meant to do, but others are just clunky and seemingly useless, imagine if those man-hours from those shitty distros had been put into just a few main distros.
Linux would get a lot more users if they would focus on becoming more user friendly, hell even looking through the repository can be confusing, much less trying to configure it for unsupported hardware etc. Tons of people try linux and quickly give up, the user-base grows at a snails because of the learning curve, Windows is very pointy clicky and Microsoft tries to make everything pretty simple (even though they royally fuck up on some things). Ubuntu is pretty nice for people new to linux, but only on the surface, try to get new user to compile and install a package and watch them quit real quick. The linux community only has itself to blame at this point, hopefully things will get better. I like that there are a lot of distros for example, some of them are fucking perfect for what they are meant to do, but others are just clunky and seemingly useless, imagine if those man-hours from those shitty distros had been put into just a few main distros.
Anonymous S joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #191,757
Not everyone likes buggy software.
Anonymous M replied with this 15 years ago, 4 hours later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #191,792
@191,577 (O)
LOL. The GNU freetards won't even endorse a single Linux distro. Not even philosophically hardcore distros like Debian or Fedora. They put up excuses as to why that is, but we all know Stallman butthurt is the real reason.
As for that news piece: Obvious whoring for by MS. The station probably got paid to make it up.
LOL. The GNU freetards won't even endorse a single Linux distro. Not even philosophically hardcore distros like Debian or Fedora. They put up excuses as to why that is, but we all know Stallman butthurt is the real reason.
As for that news piece: Obvious whoring for by MS. The station probably got paid to make it up.
Meta !PARAdoxiHw replied with this 15 years ago, 16 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #191,793
@previous (M)
Lol, they mad because GNU Hurd is vaporware and Linux is popular (compared to all the other free and open source operating systems). Also, Stallman looks like a deranged homeless man, and Torvalds looks clean and professional.
Lol, they mad because GNU Hurd is vaporware and Linux is popular (compared to all the other free and open source operating systems). Also, Stallman looks like a deranged homeless man, and Torvalds looks clean and professional.
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Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 15 years ago, 40 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #191,794
Linux isn't for everyone. I for one stick with Windows 7 because it's easy to understand and work with, plus it has the best games.
But if you can work with Linux and get it customised to your liking, then more power to you.
But if you can work with Linux and get it customised to your liking, then more power to you.
Anonymous T joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 19 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #191,796
@191,577 (O)
Dumb blonde is too stupid to know what she fucking ordered. Wants to blame others. Yep, sounds like a Windows user to me.
Dumb blonde is too stupid to know what she fucking ordered. Wants to blame others. Yep, sounds like a Windows user to me.
Meta !PARAdoxiHw replied with this 15 years ago, 16 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #191,801
@191,794 (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
> Linux isn't for everyone. I for one stick with Windows 7 because --it's easy to understand and work with-- I am afraid of the command line and I am a n00b, plus --it has the best games-- I can't figure out how to use WINE.
>
> But if you can work with Linux and get it customised to your liking, then more power to you.
ftfy
> Linux isn't for everyone. I for one stick with Windows 7 because --it's easy to understand and work with-- I am afraid of the command line and I am a n00b, plus --it has the best games-- I can't figure out how to use WINE.
>
> But if you can work with Linux and get it customised to your liking, then more power to you.
ftfy
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #191,803
Meta !PARAdoxiHw replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #191,805
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
Have you actually even tried Ubuntu? I put it on my parents' computer (to stop them getting malware all the time) and even they think it's easy to use.
Have you actually even tried Ubuntu? I put it on my parents' computer (to stop them getting malware all the time) and even they think it's easy to use.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #191,807
@previous (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
I've seen it being used before, it's not for me.
To be honest I just wanted to make a post saying that it isn't the perfect OS for everyone and see what kind of responce it got.
I've seen it being used before, it's not for me.
To be honest I just wanted to make a post saying that it isn't the perfect OS for everyone and see what kind of responce it got.
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Meta !PARAdoxiHw replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #191,808
@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
To be fair, it is pretty complex. Instead of a "Start" menu, you have "Applications", "Places", and "System" menus. HOLY SHIT THAT IS A LOT OF MENUS.
To be fair, it is pretty complex. Instead of a "Start" menu, you have "Applications", "Places", and "System" menus. HOLY SHIT THAT IS A LOT OF MENUS.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 15 years ago, 10 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #191,809
@previous (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
Okay, you win. Your arguments are too compelling to ignore. I'm switching to Ubuntu as we speak!
Okay, you win. Your arguments are too compelling to ignore. I'm switching to Ubuntu as we speak!
Anonymous T replied with this 15 years ago, 10 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #191,811
@191,805 (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
Ubuntu has only 2% because that's the percentage of computer users who can install an OS confidently. It doesn't matter how easy it is when people are afraid to do it.
When I was out of work I made pretty good money wiping out malware infested Windows installs and reinstalling. $80 a pop wasn't bad for a few hours of work. Windows is more a bitch to install than Ubuntu is. The difference being with Windows you can almost always find the drivers you need if you look hard enough. With Ubuntu you could find yourself waiting on a kernel update.
Ubuntu has only 2% because that's the percentage of computer users who can install an OS confidently. It doesn't matter how easy it is when people are afraid to do it.
When I was out of work I made pretty good money wiping out malware infested Windows installs and reinstalling. $80 a pop wasn't bad for a few hours of work. Windows is more a bitch to install than Ubuntu is. The difference being with Windows you can almost always find the drivers you need if you look hard enough. With Ubuntu you could find yourself waiting on a kernel update.
Meta !PARAdoxiHw replied with this 15 years ago, 34 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #191,819
@previous (T)
It's so damn easy though, put the disk/flash drive in and click "next" a few times and enter the name and password you like. Once it's up and running, you will never have to use the command line for anything. Ubuntu even has it's own "app store" where nearly everything is free.
Installing stuff through the Ubuntu Software Center or apt-get is so much easier than installing stuff on Winderp. It's just as easy as the iTunes app store. But free.
It's so damn easy though, put the disk/flash drive in and click "next" a few times and enter the name and password you like. Once it's up and running, you will never have to use the command line for anything. Ubuntu even has it's own "app store" where nearly everything is free.
Installing stuff through the Ubuntu Software Center or apt-get is so much easier than installing stuff on Winderp. It's just as easy as the iTunes app store. But free.
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