Anonymous D replied with this 3 years ago, 4 hours later, 12 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,200,799
@1,200,765 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
1. Gametes for women are as old as they are, gametes for men are always made fresh.
2. The woman is the one actually carrying the kid, sharing a blood supply, nutrients, and an immune system.
There’s a reason the obstetricians who study this for a living have documented and warn about advanced maternal age and not advanced paternal age. Do you know more than the experts? I think not.
Anonymous D replied with this 3 years ago, 5 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,200,808
@1,200,805 (F)
A citation that gametes in women are as old as they are, but that in men are always new? High school biology or health class should have covered that.
Or a citation that the one carrying a child and sharing resources matters more than the one who is not physically connected to the child? That should be common sense.
You can find evidence of some sort of drop off in genetic integrity in male sperm over time, but not even close to what that article shows for aging female gametes.
And of course, if an old father can’t supply a fetus with nutrients and immune cells at a sufficient rate that’s irrelevant because the father isn’t the one that needs to do that.
Anonymous F double-posted this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 12 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,200,810
@1,200,808 (D)
let's try, a citation for the information in the post that was cited... wait a minute, which poster here seems to have trouble understanding citations?
Anonymous D replied with this 3 years ago, 20 seconds later, 12 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,200,811
@1,200,807 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Sure, but there’s a reason men in every culture are so picky about age while women are much less picky.
A 20 year old woman who mates with a 40 year old man is most likely going to have a healthy kid.
A man of any age who tries to have kids with a 40 year old woman is more likely to fail than have a living baby. If it is alive the chances of genetic mutation are many time higher than if the woman was 30.
Anonymous D replied with this 3 years ago, 24 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,200,826
@1,200,814 (F)
To be clear, you think that the decade difference in gamete age doesn’t matter? And that an old parent that carries the child is the same as an old parent that didn’t carry the child?
You can look up the definitions for advanced maternal / paternal age yourself.
Common sense should tel you the one actually growing the child is going to have a bigger impact on the health of that child. There’s a reason fathers-to-be aren’t discouraged from drinking during a pregnancy and mothers-to-be are. The body of the mother is one that matters to the health of the kid.
Anonymous F replied with this 3 years ago, 5 hours later, 18 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,200,895
@previous (D)
if it's common sense, then post a citation for your claim (here @1,200,804 (D) )that the difference is "many" hundreds of percent... so at least 200%. I'll be waiting
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 3 years ago, 2 hours later, 20 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,200,908
@1,200,821 (LadyD !Pool..v42s)
Yes, that range is best. However, the difference between the best age to father a child, and 10 years later is small.
Meanwhile the difference between the best time to get pregnant and 10 years later for a woman about halves the chance of conceiving at all. To say nothing of the chances of a birth defect for the live births.
Anonymous I replied with this 3 years ago, 38 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,200,915
@previous (J)
Nonce used to mean attraction to people before fertility, now it means attraction during fertility.
I wonder how fast societies will grow when they insist people should only mate when it’s late.
There’s a reason most of the world’s cultures consider being a “nonce” the normal way of things the way you describe it.
Queer theory based on epistemic relativism can’t sustain itself because it encourages people to wait until they are unlikely to have healthy kids.
Christianity is out of touch with reality too, but their culture at least reproduces itself which means we’ll all be dealing with jesus freaks 100 years from now.
Obnoxious dyed hair feninists who tell women to wait until they’re established in their career will stay fringe or die out because it is innately suicidal.