Topic: Why do Christians keep using this stupid argument?
Anonymous A started this discussion 15 years ago #10,617
> It's called faith. We BELEIVE. God and Jesus give us purpose, for they created us. If you wish not to believe, that is fine. But do not try to diminish the faith in others just because you do not believe. Christianity is the most popular religion in the world, so there must be some truth. God Bless You.
Seriously? This has got to be the most deluded argument in their repertoire short of the idea that some Jewish zombie carpenter flew into the sky to be with his space wizard dad who made everything in the universe.
Seriously? This has got to be the most deluded argument in their repertoire short of the idea that some Jewish zombie carpenter flew into the sky to be with his space wizard dad who made everything in the universe.
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later[^] [v] #189,011
Why do you care what other people believe? That's what makes religion turn to such shit, is that attitude right there.
Leo Vegas !gNoGoD5HzQ joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 40 seconds later, 3 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #189,012
@OP
I agree bud. Faith is the most ridiculous thing ever. I wonder how many Christians would let an airline pilot perform open heart surgery on them and then fly on a jet piloted by a doctor if the pilot and the doctor told them to have faith in them? Fuck faith and fuck the invisible man they call god.
I agree bud. Faith is the most ridiculous thing ever. I wonder how many Christians would let an airline pilot perform open heart surgery on them and then fly on a jet piloted by a doctor if the pilot and the doctor told them to have faith in them? Fuck faith and fuck the invisible man they call god.
Leo Vegas !gNoGoD5HzQ double-posted this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #189,014
@189,011 (B)
> Why do you care what other people believe? That's what makes religion turn to such shit, is that attitude right there.
Because fuckwads who get into power decide that things like invading Afghanistan and Iraq are what god would want. I don't want anyone to die for god. Because their beliefs make things like drugs and prostitution illegal. Because in some places you can't buy a fucking case of beer on a goddamn Sunday.
> Why do you care what other people believe? That's what makes religion turn to such shit, is that attitude right there.
Because fuckwads who get into power decide that things like invading Afghanistan and Iraq are what god would want. I don't want anyone to die for god. Because their beliefs make things like drugs and prostitution illegal. Because in some places you can't buy a fucking case of beer on a goddamn Sunday.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #189,016
@189,011 (B)
> Why do you care what other people believe? That's what makes religion turn to such shit, is that attitude right there.
I don't. It's being force fed this line at any turn of a quasi-Christianity related discussion that arises that I'm involved in. It gets old.
hurrdurr don't get involved in them
> Why do you care what other people believe? That's what makes religion turn to such shit, is that attitude right there.
I don't. It's being force fed this line at any turn of a quasi-Christianity related discussion that arises that I'm involved in. It gets old.
hurrdurr don't get involved in them
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 10 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #189,019
@189,014 (Leo Vegas !gNoGoD5HzQ)
exactly my point. Religion is such shit because followers judge others based on what they believe. I'm all for people believing whatever the fuck they want to. I don't believe in god, I think the idea of god is archaic and obsolete. But if I insist on judging people based on their belief in god, then I am no better than the christian judging me for my beliefs.
exactly my point. Religion is such shit because followers judge others based on what they believe. I'm all for people believing whatever the fuck they want to. I don't believe in god, I think the idea of god is archaic and obsolete. But if I insist on judging people based on their belief in god, then I am no better than the christian judging me for my beliefs.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 11 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #189,022
@189,014 (Leo Vegas !gNoGoD5HzQ)
Nevermind the fact that 1 billion or so idiots believing something makes it any more true than what it is. How many people used to believe the world was flat? Argumentum ad populum is such a farcical excuse for believing in something. It's extremely nauseating.
Nevermind the fact that 1 billion or so idiots believing something makes it any more true than what it is. How many people used to believe the world was flat? Argumentum ad populum is such a farcical excuse for believing in something. It's extremely nauseating.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 46 seconds later, 12 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #189,024
@189,019 (B)
You obviously didn't read the part I bolded, which was my point of this thread. See my other post here @previous (A)
You obviously didn't read the part I bolded, which was my point of this thread. See my other post here @previous (A)
Leo Vegas !gNoGoD5HzQ replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #189,026
@189,019 (B)
> But if I insist on judging people based on their belief in god, then I am no better than the christian judging me for my beliefs.
I was with you to here. Don't let yourself be sucked into the idea that you are no better than someone because you think you do the same as them. If I believe that mutilating hookers is a good idea and you work in a slaughter house, doing piece work (separating the cuts of meat) then, by what you are saying, one could argue that you should not judge me because I do the same thing to living things as you do. But that argument is just silly, unless you are a hardcore PETA type.
> But if I insist on judging people based on their belief in god, then I am no better than the christian judging me for my beliefs.
I was with you to here. Don't let yourself be sucked into the idea that you are no better than someone because you think you do the same as them. If I believe that mutilating hookers is a good idea and you work in a slaughter house, doing piece work (separating the cuts of meat) then, by what you are saying, one could argue that you should not judge me because I do the same thing to living things as you do. But that argument is just silly, unless you are a hardcore PETA type.
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 17 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #189,028
@189,016 (A)
Well, but it's faith, and faith implies nothing but faith. Faith is faith. You either have it, or you don't. Most Christians are aware of the questions, and the problems, and everything. They try and explain things in a way that makes sense, but logic soon picks it apart. What logic cannot do it pick apart faith. Faith is the first, and last thing religious folks jump to. It's just faith, bud. I'm sure you understand what that word means?
It means that you believe. It means that you believe, and that nothing can make you not. Faith is the crux of religion, and they fight like the devil to hold on to something, anything, that keeps their faith intact. Even if that means holding onto empty justifications.
Well, but it's faith, and faith implies nothing but faith. Faith is faith. You either have it, or you don't. Most Christians are aware of the questions, and the problems, and everything. They try and explain things in a way that makes sense, but logic soon picks it apart. What logic cannot do it pick apart faith. Faith is the first, and last thing religious folks jump to. It's just faith, bud. I'm sure you understand what that word means?
It means that you believe. It means that you believe, and that nothing can make you not. Faith is the crux of religion, and they fight like the devil to hold on to something, anything, that keeps their faith intact. Even if that means holding onto empty justifications.
RiverMutt !Mex505FZAw joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 20 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #189,032
I thought Islam was the most popular religion in the world.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 18 seconds later, 20 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #189,033
@189,028 (B)
Faith has nothing to do with my point. Saying "since it's the most popular religion in the world means it has some iota of truth" is a completely bullshit argument. That's the problem I have. People shouldn't be saying things like that because that's just nonsense.
Faith has nothing to do with my point. Saying "since it's the most popular religion in the world means it has some iota of truth" is a completely bullshit argument. That's the problem I have. People shouldn't be saying things like that because that's just nonsense.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 53 seconds later, 21 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #189,034
@189,032 (RiverMutt !Mex505FZAw)
Regardless, I'm just quoting what someone else said to me. You can pick apart their statement but I'm just emphasizing what was said in bold.
Regardless, I'm just quoting what someone else said to me. You can pick apart their statement but I'm just emphasizing what was said in bold.
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 24 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #189,037
@189,026 (Leo Vegas !gNoGoD5HzQ)
Truth. But, faith in God is one of the things that prevents people from doing things like mutilating hookers. For all of religions evils, there is much good that goes along with it. Faith emboldened morality is not necessarily bad, but I won't argue that the extremes are part of what is good. Personally, I have no problem with people believing in god, heaven, etc. I have a problem with them trying to force it on me in any way, especially politically. But if they want to pray to a man in the stars, more power to em.
Truth. But, faith in God is one of the things that prevents people from doing things like mutilating hookers. For all of religions evils, there is much good that goes along with it. Faith emboldened morality is not necessarily bad, but I won't argue that the extremes are part of what is good. Personally, I have no problem with people believing in god, heaven, etc. I have a problem with them trying to force it on me in any way, especially politically. But if they want to pray to a man in the stars, more power to em.
Anonymous B double-posted this 15 years ago, 52 seconds later, 25 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #189,038
@189,033 (A)
my point is that bullshit argument is the thread that's holding their faith together. That's why they make the argument. It's all in the post I made.
my point is that bullshit argument is the thread that's holding their faith together. That's why they make the argument. It's all in the post I made.
RiverMutt !Mex505FZAw replied with this 15 years ago, 23 seconds later, 25 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #189,039
@189,034 (A)
> Saying "since it's the most popular religion in the world means it has some iota of truth" is a completely bullshit argument.
Agreed, and I think it's arrogant of people to take conjecture as truth. I tend to not argue with people about religion, though, because it's damn near impossible to convince someone that something they have believed for their whole life could be wrong, even if your logic is flawless.
> Saying "since it's the most popular religion in the world means it has some iota of truth" is a completely bullshit argument.
Agreed, and I think it's arrogant of people to take conjecture as truth. I tend to not argue with people about religion, though, because it's damn near impossible to convince someone that something they have believed for their whole life could be wrong, even if your logic is flawless.
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 27 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #189,040
@previous (RiverMutt !Mex505FZAw)
> it's damn near impossible to convince someone that something they have believed for their whole life could be wrong, even if your logic is flawless.
exactly. You can't argue with faith.
> it's damn near impossible to convince someone that something they have believed for their whole life could be wrong, even if your logic is flawless.
exactly. You can't argue with faith.
Leo Vegas !gNoGoD5HzQ replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 28 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #189,041
@189,037 (B)
You have no problem with what they believe in as long as they don't force it on you. That isn't a bad thing but the problem is that these fuckers do not care about your tolerance. I don't know where you live but here in the South I have ran into more than enough religious extremist attitudes that would put people like you and I in the fucking grave.
You have no problem with what they believe in as long as they don't force it on you. That isn't a bad thing but the problem is that these fuckers do not care about your tolerance. I don't know where you live but here in the South I have ran into more than enough religious extremist attitudes that would put people like you and I in the fucking grave.
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 54 seconds later, 29 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #189,042
@previous (Leo Vegas !gNoGoD5HzQ)
I live in Dallas. We got more churches than schools. Blue laws in the suburbs too. But I live in the city proper, so I can buy as much liquor and guns as I can shake a stick at.
I live in Dallas. We got more churches than schools. Blue laws in the suburbs too. But I live in the city proper, so I can buy as much liquor and guns as I can shake a stick at.
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 3 seconds later, 29 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #189,043
@189,038 (B)
Anonymous B, I know and it's obvious. Their ability to have faith in it isn't what's in question. It's not their ability to hold to their arguments, it's WHY they do it (being that so many people say it as well, so therefore it must be true!). I just find that same old song and dance number to be extremely tiresome.
Anonymous B, I know and it's obvious. Their ability to have faith in it isn't what's in question. It's not their ability to hold to their arguments, it's WHY they do it (being that so many people say it as well, so therefore it must be true!). I just find that same old song and dance number to be extremely tiresome.
Leo Vegas !gNoGoD5HzQ replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 30 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #189,045
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 32 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #189,047
Also for the record, I'm not arguing whether Christianity is true or not (SO FUCK OFF MOUNTAINMAN I AM NOT BAITING YOUR NONSENSE IN THIS THREAD OKAY?) but I just wanted to say that it's fucking irritating when people defend themselves for a point saying that "SO MANY PEOPLE THINK THIS TRUE HOW SO WHY ARE THOSE WHO DISAGREE WRONG?"
You could make the argument for any other subject but I encounter this situation the most in Christian discussions. Sorry that your fellow believers do this, mountainman, but it happens. Deal with it. I'm not trying to persecute you or your beliefs but I'm persecuting stupid logic.
You could make the argument for any other subject but I encounter this situation the most in Christian discussions. Sorry that your fellow believers do this, mountainman, but it happens. Deal with it. I'm not trying to persecute you or your beliefs but I'm persecuting stupid logic.
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Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 37 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #189,052
@189,043 (A)
Ok, bud. I'll answer your question for a third time, that particular statement (everyone believes it, so it must be true!) is used as a last ditch justification to hold onto faith even in the face of a total failure of logic and reasoning. If they say, "well, you're right. I don't have anything to hold onto," then their faith will collapse, and they will lose their belief.
Instead, they make a crazy statement, smile, and deliriously go on about believing in their fairy tales. So there you go, they make that statement because it's the only thing they have to hold onto, "everyone can't be wrong. So I'm right!"
I will also say that this is my opinion, take it or leave it. But I'm kinda done repeating myself for you,to4str bud.
Ok, bud. I'll answer your question for a third time, that particular statement (everyone believes it, so it must be true!) is used as a last ditch justification to hold onto faith even in the face of a total failure of logic and reasoning. If they say, "well, you're right. I don't have anything to hold onto," then their faith will collapse, and they will lose their belief.
Instead, they make a crazy statement, smile, and deliriously go on about believing in their fairy tales. So there you go, they make that statement because it's the only thing they have to hold onto, "everyone can't be wrong. So I'm right!"
I will also say that this is my opinion, take it or leave it. But I'm kinda done repeating myself for you,
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Anonymous B double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 38 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #189,054
RiverMutt !Mex505FZAw replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 41 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #189,057
@189,052 (B)
> to4str
I got that feeling too when I saw the word "iota" in a post, but whatever, this is actually a good discussion. Also what you wrote there is dead on.
> to4str
I got that feeling too when I saw the word "iota" in a post, but whatever, this is actually a good discussion. Also what you wrote there is dead on.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 49 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #189,059
@189,052 (B)
It is. I'm also aware of why they do it. I'm saying that I'm extremely tired of hearing it as an excuse in an argument. Can we agree to that?
It is. I'm also aware of why they do it. I'm saying that I'm extremely tired of hearing it as an excuse in an argument. Can we agree to that?
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 13 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #189,062
@previous (A)
I guess, but it's an argument that you cannot win. They'll always go to some statement similar to this. It's annoying, sure. But if you've backed them into that corner then you've won the rational argument. You will, however, never win the irrational argument. They have faith in their corner, and faith is the definition of irrationality.
Just take your rational win and be happy with it.
They will be happy with their irrational victory.
I guess, but it's an argument that you cannot win. They'll always go to some statement similar to this. It's annoying, sure. But if you've backed them into that corner then you've won the rational argument. You will, however, never win the irrational argument. They have faith in their corner, and faith is the definition of irrationality.
Just take your rational win and be happy with it.
They will be happy with their irrational victory.
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #189,064
@previous (B)
Well I am glad we are on the same side at least. I think you and I were always on the same side of this argument but just arguing different points of it. No problem though, Dallas friend. <3
Well I am glad we are on the same side at least. I think you and I were always on the same side of this argument but just arguing different points of it. No problem though, Dallas friend. <3
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #189,067
@previous (A)
Yup, same side. <3
My biggest concerns aren't in converting, but in preventing. I have no interest in "spreading the word," I just don't want them to spread theirs politically. I'm not accusing you of trying to convert people, but I see so much futility and frustration when arguing with the religious crowd that I find it best to smile, say, "that's nice," and then try and not vote republican. At least these days.
Yup, same side. <3
My biggest concerns aren't in converting, but in preventing. I have no interest in "spreading the word," I just don't want them to spread theirs politically. I'm not accusing you of trying to convert people, but I see so much futility and frustration when arguing with the religious crowd that I find it best to smile, say, "that's nice," and then try and not vote republican. At least these days.
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #189,069
@previous (B)
And I just don't like the argument that people think it's real if 10,000,000 people believe it so something, you know! We have to have some degree of logic here.
And I just don't like the argument that people think it's real if 10,000,000 people believe it so something, you know! We have to have some degree of logic here.
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #189,070
@previous (A)
I agree, despite the fact that logic may be as faulty as blind faith. But faith does pick up where logic leaves off. Faith really is an incredibly illogical idea, but it's also one that is extremely powerful. More powerful than logic, to be honest. That's probably why more people believe in some form of god, then those that do not.
also, inb4 christfags say faith is perfectly logical. I will not argue the point
I agree, despite the fact that logic may be as faulty as blind faith. But faith does pick up where logic leaves off. Faith really is an incredibly illogical idea, but it's also one that is extremely powerful. More powerful than logic, to be honest. That's probably why more people believe in some form of god, then those that do not.
also, inb4 christfags say faith is perfectly logical. I will not argue the point
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Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #189,072
Argumentum ad populum: you can tell they've lost the argument when they use it.
TrollBuster3000 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 54 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #189,085
@189,012 (Leo Vegas !gNoGoD5HzQ)
God is perfect. Humans are not. I have faith in a God who loves me.
God is perfect. Humans are not. I have faith in a God who loves me.
TrollBuster3000 double-posted this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #189,086
@189,014 (Leo Vegas !gNoGoD5HzQ)
You are wrong. It is statism that causes these ills. I am a Christian and oppose war and prohibition BASED upon the Bible.
You are wrong. It is statism that causes these ills. I am a Christian and oppose war and prohibition BASED upon the Bible.
TrollBuster3000 triple-posted this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #189,088
@189,026 (Leo Vegas !gNoGoD5HzQ)
lol unless you are calling religious people animals your argument doesn't make sense.
lol unless you are calling religious people animals your argument doesn't make sense.
TrollBuster3000 quadruple-posted this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #189,089
@189,032 (RiverMutt !Mex505FZAw)
Many religions have become "ethnic" i.e. people consider themselves members of a religious group by virtue of the country/state/town they were born in, the language they speak; or "cultural" i.e. people consider themselves members of a religious group by the rituals they practice, or food, behavior etc. they avoid - not because they believe in the God of that religion.
This affects all the major religions to an unknown extent.
Many religions have become "ethnic" i.e. people consider themselves members of a religious group by virtue of the country/state/town they were born in, the language they speak; or "cultural" i.e. people consider themselves members of a religious group by the rituals they practice, or food, behavior etc. they avoid - not because they believe in the God of that religion.
This affects all the major religions to an unknown extent.
TrollBuster3000 quintuple-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #189,092
@189,041 (Leo Vegas !gNoGoD5HzQ)
Jesus preached tolerance.
Please stop inciting hatred with your lies.
Jesus preached tolerance.
Please stop inciting hatred with your lies.
TrollBuster3000 sextuple-posted this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #189,095
@189,047 (A)
idk why you feel the need to say this. I am an eminently rational individual and I agree that it is annoying to hear this fallacy repeated so often.
idk why you feel the need to say this. I am an eminently rational individual and I agree that it is annoying to hear this fallacy repeated so often.
TrollBuster3000 septuple-posted this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #189,098
@189,062 (B)
you don't know rational and irrational mean LOL
Christianity may be false, but it is rational.
you don't know rational and irrational mean LOL
Christianity may be false, but it is rational.
TrollBuster3000 octuple-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #189,100
Mobile Anon B joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 6 hours later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #189,142
Shut the fuck up mountainman. Every response you made was trite, and off topic. Quality contribution, you've really made christians seem reasonable, and logical. Enjoy your faith, I hope you're able to hold on to it for life and don't struggle with personal demons until faith fails you and you abandon God as you act out sick, perverted fantasies for personal sexual gratification!
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #189,158
Remember when mountainman stopped posting here for a while and you could actually have a discussion about religion? I miss those days.
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grey !C.MxxuCiTo joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #189,197
@OP
> the idea that some Jewish zombie carpenter flew into the sky to be with his space wizard dad who made everything in the universe.
I love you.
> the idea that some Jewish zombie carpenter flew into the sky to be with his space wizard dad who made everything in the universe.
I love you.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #189,201
Mobile Anon B replied with this 15 years ago, 45 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #189,221
@previous (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
Why are you asking him? You know his answer will be either pedantic or totally lack any substance. Either way, he's only going to spout meaningless religious memes.
Why are you asking him? You know his answer will be either pedantic or totally lack any substance. Either way, he's only going to spout meaningless religious memes.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #189,224
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #189,225
@previous (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
Did you ever go to the religion and spirituality section of yahoo answers? It's great fun.
Did you ever go to the religion and spirituality section of yahoo answers? It's great fun.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #189,228
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #189,230
@previous (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
Why do you feel sad? I always had a good time asking questions there.
Why do you feel sad? I always had a good time asking questions there.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 36 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #189,242
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Because people will often ask heartbreaking questions about religion or the afterlife.
Because people will often ask heartbreaking questions about religion or the afterlife.
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 4 hours later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #189,355
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 11 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #189,371
Why don't you just laugh at them, knowing you're right, instead of allowing them to piss you off?
TrollBuster3000 replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #189,393
@189,158 (H)
None of you actually know anything about religion, though. Your discussions would be pointless.
None of you actually know anything about religion, though. Your discussions would be pointless.
TrollBuster3000 double-posted this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #189,396
@189,201 (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
It is internally logically consistent. Many philosophies and religions are not. Christianity does not contradict itself.
It is internally logically consistent. Many philosophies and religions are not. Christianity does not contradict itself.
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 56 seconds later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #189,397
@189,393 (TrollBuster3000)
as pointless as a room full of religious scholars discussing the finer points of their fairy tales.
as pointless as a room full of religious scholars discussing the finer points of their fairy tales.
Anonymous B double-posted this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #189,398
@189,396 (TrollBuster3000)
So what about irrational things? like God, and miracles? How can you remain logically consistent when your philosophy relies on unprovable conjecture about which prophet had it right?
So what about irrational things? like God, and miracles? How can you remain logically consistent when your philosophy relies on unprovable conjecture about which prophet had it right?
TrollBuster3000 replied with this 15 years ago, 33 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #189,403
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #189,454
@previous (TrollBuster3000)
Unless the logic is based on untruth, then it is illogical as well as being untrue. But, faith resists logical attacks.
Unless the logic is based on untruth, then it is illogical as well as being untrue. But, faith resists logical attacks.
Wade Wilson !IOdbnXsKDk joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 hours later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #189,555
I want to fuck women
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TrollBuster3000 replied with this 15 years ago, 25 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #189,585
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 8 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #189,677
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 11 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #189,898
@189,355 (B)
People asking questions about their guilt over natural thoughts and actions. Also, any talk of an afterlife.
People asking questions about their guilt over natural thoughts and actions. Also, any talk of an afterlife.
TrollBuster3000 replied with this 15 years ago, 2 days later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #192,112
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Appeal to authority fallacy.
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #192,221
Syntax joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 32 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #192,250
> Jewish zombie carpenter
10/10
10/10