Topic: Ask a Christian anything!
TrollBuster3000 started this discussion 15 years ago #10,539
Ask me anything about Christianity. If there's anything you wanted to know about the gospel, the various denominations, particular doctrines or dogma, or even current church culture, ask me!
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later[^] [v] #187,647
What do you think of the Mormons?
Tekamine !AnRbswGQv. joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 10 minutes later, 12 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #187,651
Why are there so many paedophiles in the church? Did the Bible say it was ok?
TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 17 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #187,652
How exactly did your brain get washed
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 21 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #187,653
@OP
What do you think is the strongest argument against the existence of God (problem of evil, logical incompatibility of omniscience/omnipotence/omnibenevolence, etc.) and what is your response to it? You don't have to go into extreme detail in your rebuttal.
What do you think is the strongest argument against the existence of God (problem of evil, logical incompatibility of omniscience/omnipotence/omnibenevolence, etc.) and what is your response to it? You don't have to go into extreme detail in your rebuttal.
jump? joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 14 seconds later, 22 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #187,654
Do you think that Paul's conversion experience was the result of a large dose of mushrooms?
Does it bother you that Jesus wouldn't have really preached to you since you aren't a Jew?
How many licks does it take to get to the center of a toostie roll pop? a 1...a2 ...a 3...CHOMP. Tha-ree.
Does it bother you that Jesus wouldn't have really preached to you since you aren't a Jew?
How many licks does it take to get to the center of a toostie roll pop? a 1...a2 ...a 3...CHOMP. Tha-ree.
Leo Vegas !gNoGoD5HzQ joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 3 hours later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #187,686
@OP
How big was jesus' cock?
How big was jesus' cock?
jump? replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #187,687
Lol. Christians hate questions.
Leo Vegas !gNoGoD5HzQ replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #187,689
jump? replied with this 15 years ago, 17 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #187,692
@previous (Leo Vegas !gNoGoD5HzQ)
Well, I guess I had better start to answer.
@187,686 (Leo Vegas !gNoGoD5HzQ)
7.67 inches flaccid. 9 inches for judas.
@187,653 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Hmm.. my answer would be the lack of any actual evidence. I can't reconcile that with a belief in the supernatural.
As far as evil, god did not create evil. Evil is the absence of god, according to Christians. Not really an answer, but it's what they will say. You can't really reconcile an omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent god who is also omnibenevolent. A god who truly cared with undying love for a people could not create a world that is suffering. He would not, for a lark, allow Satan reign over the earth. He wouldn't have created Satan. Angels do not possess free will. That whole story makes no sense. Also, ant angel would know that to take on god would be futile. It's the most ridiculous aspect of Christianity.
@187,652 (TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k)
He want brainwashed, he was indoctrinated and suffers from a delusion.
@187,651 (Tekamine !AnRbswGQv.)
There arent more statistically, just many many many more offenses because of a mix of celibacy and the catholic church's hierarchal structure. You've got a lot of frustrated men who know they will be protected by the power afforded them by their stations (priests are above the lay population.)
The reason Why so many cult leaders fuck young teens is because they can and young teens are naive and hot.
@187,647 (B)
Batshit insane fucks. I understand why it's hard to leave, though. No one wants to lose their family and friends. Even if they are bigoted idiots who fight marijuana legalization and gay marriage.
Well, I guess I had better start to answer.
@187,686 (Leo Vegas !gNoGoD5HzQ)
7.67 inches flaccid. 9 inches for judas.
@187,653 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Hmm.. my answer would be the lack of any actual evidence. I can't reconcile that with a belief in the supernatural.
As far as evil, god did not create evil. Evil is the absence of god, according to Christians. Not really an answer, but it's what they will say. You can't really reconcile an omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent god who is also omnibenevolent. A god who truly cared with undying love for a people could not create a world that is suffering. He would not, for a lark, allow Satan reign over the earth. He wouldn't have created Satan. Angels do not possess free will. That whole story makes no sense. Also, ant angel would know that to take on god would be futile. It's the most ridiculous aspect of Christianity.
@187,652 (TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k)
He want brainwashed, he was indoctrinated and suffers from a delusion.
@187,651 (Tekamine !AnRbswGQv.)
There arent more statistically, just many many many more offenses because of a mix of celibacy and the catholic church's hierarchal structure. You've got a lot of frustrated men who know they will be protected by the power afforded them by their stations (priests are above the lay population.)
The reason Why so many cult leaders fuck young teens is because they can and young teens are naive and hot.
@187,647 (B)
Batshit insane fucks. I understand why it's hard to leave, though. No one wants to lose their family and friends. Even if they are bigoted idiots who fight marijuana legalization and gay marriage.
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 3 hours later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #187,714
> Evil is the absence of god> Absence of an omnipresent god
jump? replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #187,717
Anonymous H replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #187,719
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 5 hours later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #187,902
Religion is like a penis. It's fine to have one. It's fine to be proud of it. But please don't whip it out in public and start waving it around. And PLEASE don't try to shove it down children's throats.
SO FUCK OFF, MOUNTAINMAN.
SO FUCK OFF, MOUNTAINMAN.
Leo Vegas !gNoGoD5HzQ replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #187,905
@previous (I)
> Religion is like a penis. It's fine to have one. It's fine to be proud of it. But please don't whip it out in public and start waving it around. And PLEASE don't try to shove it down children's throats.
That is pure genius. I love it.
> Religion is like a penis. It's fine to have one. It's fine to be proud of it. But please don't whip it out in public and start waving it around. And PLEASE don't try to shove it down children's throats.
That is pure genius. I love it.
cat !COOOOOLbus joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #187,908
@187,902 (I)
protip !!pMmAiEwOm joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #187,919
lol
vocalon !!dX0knrTu5 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #187,933
@187,902 (I)
> please don't shove it down children's throats
It's "down other's throats", get it right.
I did lol though, considering OP is mountainman and that's just what MM does.
> please don't shove it down children's throats
It's "down other's throats", get it right.
I did lol though, considering OP is mountainman and that's just what MM does.
Anonymous I replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #187,940
@previous (vocalon !!dX0knrTu5)
That was the irony I was trying to point out since he's a youth leader, dingus.
That was the irony I was trying to point out since he's a youth leader, dingus.
Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #187,945
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Anonymous P joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 10 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #188,119
Here's a question : Why? was god just bored?
Anonymous Q joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 34 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #188,174
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jump? replied with this 15 years ago, 11 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #188,192
Anonymous S joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 43 seconds later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #188,193
What's your favorite child protective agency?
TrollBuster3000 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 2 hours later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #188,370
@187,647 (B)
Mormons (especially in the USA, and in politics) have lately been trying to portray themselves as part of mainstream Christianity. Unfortunately, this is not true.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HSlbuli7HM&feature=related
This is a hilarious cartoon illustrating Mormon doctrine. I cannot, however, confirm its veracity (despite owning all the key Mormon religious texts I have never read them). Note that Mormons have changed many of their original doctrines in response to religious discrimination by the US government, and lately, social pressure. They no longer teach many of these doctrines (in itself a powerful argument against Mormonism).
Mormons (especially in the USA, and in politics) have lately been trying to portray themselves as part of mainstream Christianity. Unfortunately, this is not true.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HSlbuli7HM&feature=related
This is a hilarious cartoon illustrating Mormon doctrine. I cannot, however, confirm its veracity (despite owning all the key Mormon religious texts I have never read them). Note that Mormons have changed many of their original doctrines in response to religious discrimination by the US government, and lately, social pressure. They no longer teach many of these doctrines (in itself a powerful argument against Mormonism).
Anonymous R replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #188,373
TrollBuster3000 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #188,374
@187,651 (Tekamine !AnRbswGQv.)
The last study I saw was about pedophilia in the Roman Catholic Church, which stated that the rate of sexual abuse was comparable to that of the rest of society (though this, to me at least, is a damning indictment - the rate should be much lower than the rest of society).
The Bible is not a rulebook. Jesus gave us two laws - Love God and love people. Most people believe Child Sex Abuse (CSA) constitutes a violation of "loving people".
The last study I saw was about pedophilia in the Roman Catholic Church, which stated that the rate of sexual abuse was comparable to that of the rest of society (though this, to me at least, is a damning indictment - the rate should be much lower than the rest of society).
The Bible is not a rulebook. Jesus gave us two laws - Love God and love people. Most people believe Child Sex Abuse (CSA) constitutes a violation of "loving people".
(Edited 16 seconds later.)
TrollBuster3000 (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 53 seconds later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #188,375
TrollBuster3000 (OP) triple-posted this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #188,378
@187,653 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Perhaps the strongest argument against God is the weakness of arguments FOR God.
Paul writes that God chooses the lowly to humble the proud and the foolish to humble the wise. Faith can be practiced by all, as opposed to gnosis, restricted to the elect.
Perhaps the strongest argument against God is the weakness of arguments FOR God.
Paul writes that God chooses the lowly to humble the proud and the foolish to humble the wise. Faith can be practiced by all, as opposed to gnosis, restricted to the elect.
TrollBuster3000 (OP) quadruple-posted this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #188,381
@187,654 (jump?)
No, I believe Paul's conversion was a supernatural experience.
It does not bother me that HAD I been born during Jesus' lifetime; and HAD I been born in the area Jesus preached in; and HAD I been born a gentile (and thus been not Jewish and unlikely to be attending teachings by a Jew) that He MAY not have preached to me (considering that there are several recorded instances of Jesus' miraculous dealings with Gentiles.
I have never had a tootsie roll pop.
No, I believe Paul's conversion was a supernatural experience.
It does not bother me that HAD I been born during Jesus' lifetime; and HAD I been born in the area Jesus preached in; and HAD I been born a gentile (and thus been not Jewish and unlikely to be attending teachings by a Jew) that He MAY not have preached to me (considering that there are several recorded instances of Jesus' miraculous dealings with Gentiles.
I have never had a tootsie roll pop.
TrollBuster3000 (OP) quintuple-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #188,383
TrollBuster3000 (OP) sextuple-posted this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #188,388
@187,692 (jump?)
Why do you believe that Angels do not have free will? That is not orthodox Christian doctrine.
Your error regarding suffering is your removal of suffering from its source. YOU cause suffering to other people. Other people cause suffering to you. The only solution would be the removal of free will.
Why do you believe that Angels do not have free will? That is not orthodox Christian doctrine.
Your error regarding suffering is your removal of suffering from its source. YOU cause suffering to other people. Other people cause suffering to you. The only solution would be the removal of free will.
TrollBuster3000 (OP) septuple-posted this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #188,389
@187,902 (I)
This is more like a strip joint. I am a separate room and people who want to look at my penis are coming in here.
This is more like a strip joint. I am a separate room and people who want to look at my penis are coming in here.
TrollBuster3000 (OP) octuple-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #188,391
@187,933 (vocalon !!dX0knrTu5)
You are retarded; Anon I's version was far more pertinent and thus humorous.
You are retarded; Anon I's version was far more pertinent and thus humorous.
TrollBuster3000 (OP) nonuple-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #188,394
@188,119 (P)
I believe the answer is close to that lol: I believe that God is love, and created us to love us.
I believe the answer is close to that lol: I believe that God is love, and created us to love us.
TrollBuster3000 (OP) decuple-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #188,396
TrollBuster3000 (OP) undecuple-posted this 15 years ago, 44 seconds later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #188,398
Anonymous T joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 5 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #188,505
where in the bible does it say we can't do drugs?
jump? replied with this 15 years ago, 48 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #188,523
@188,373 (R)
I've heard it before, not sure what the answer is. Infinite? Who cares.
@188,381 (TrollBuster3000)
Yes. He demanded far greater faith from gentile "dogs" though.
Have you read anything on the possible influence of psychedelic mushrooms in early christianity? I've not read anything myself, but ive heard Joe Rogan talk at length about it, and he had a guy who wrote several books on the subject on his podcast (he seemed like a bit of an obsessive nut, but a lot of the things he said made me want to read further.
@188,388 (TrollBuster3000)
I believe I was taught this in school. We were given free will because god loved us the most among all his creations.
Could be BS. I wouldn't take satans supposed betrayal as free will. I mean, there are "bad" angels. My knowledge of angels is seriously lacking, but likely that's the scriptures fault not mine. It's hard to really gather what exactly angels are and what purpose they were made for. They are used as messengers and warriors, assassins, and protectors.
A lot of scripture passages supposedly about angels seem very muddled to me. Poor translations (or just poor writing like most of the bible) could be the culprit; I just feel like angels make little sense.
Im no biblical scholar though, I've read most the bible (I've never read a lot of the old testament), but really y knowledge comes mostly from reading shit online. Obviously, most my sources are skeptics, too.
Enlighten me if you can, though.
I've heard it before, not sure what the answer is. Infinite? Who cares.
@188,381 (TrollBuster3000)
Yes. He demanded far greater faith from gentile "dogs" though.
Have you read anything on the possible influence of psychedelic mushrooms in early christianity? I've not read anything myself, but ive heard Joe Rogan talk at length about it, and he had a guy who wrote several books on the subject on his podcast (he seemed like a bit of an obsessive nut, but a lot of the things he said made me want to read further.
@188,388 (TrollBuster3000)
I believe I was taught this in school. We were given free will because god loved us the most among all his creations.
Could be BS. I wouldn't take satans supposed betrayal as free will. I mean, there are "bad" angels. My knowledge of angels is seriously lacking, but likely that's the scriptures fault not mine. It's hard to really gather what exactly angels are and what purpose they were made for. They are used as messengers and warriors, assassins, and protectors.
A lot of scripture passages supposedly about angels seem very muddled to me. Poor translations (or just poor writing like most of the bible) could be the culprit; I just feel like angels make little sense.
Im no biblical scholar though, I've read most the bible (I've never read a lot of the old testament), but really y knowledge comes mostly from reading shit online. Obviously, most my sources are skeptics, too.
Enlighten me if you can, though.
TheSheep !kJ.A4PF7.k replied with this 15 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #188,529
That was a constantation.
TrollBuster3000 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #188,586
@188,523 (jump?)
He did not "demand" greater faith. He praised and appreciated their great faith. Salvation is for all humanity; not just the Jews.
As you said, I have not heard anything on the subject apart from obsessive nuts. I recently read about the word authentein and came across an article ascribing a sexual meaning to the word in a similarly "obsessive nutjob" way. Every instance of the word EVER is now radically redefined with this new meaning. Very unconvincing.
You should not repeat claims because you "were taught this at school". You say that that your lack of knowledge is the scripture's fault; not yours: when was the last time you studied the scriptures regarding the nature of angels? I would suggest that you never have, and that your deficit of knowledge in this area can only be ascribed to your own lack of diligence.
I do not dispute that many translation are not literal (i.e. they translate concepts, not the words. An example is the Jesus is called the Lamb of God in the Bible. In some Inuit/Eskimo translation He is called the "Seal of God" as the seal somewhat takes the place of the sheep in these cultures. This can be worrying when a small group of people decide what the essential cultural aspect of a symbol is etc.) however I dispute that they are poor in that they do not read well in English.
Most of the Bible is not poorly written. It is a wonderful work of historical literature apart from any religious significance.
The Bible speaks little on Angels as a class of spiritual beings. The Bible is predominately a history of the Jewish people, poetry, the Good News of Jesus Christ, and epistles to early Christian communities. In the interaction of God and men, angels play only a minor role. Paul speaks against the undue focus on angels in the early church.
He did not "demand" greater faith. He praised and appreciated their great faith. Salvation is for all humanity; not just the Jews.
As you said, I have not heard anything on the subject apart from obsessive nuts. I recently read about the word authentein and came across an article ascribing a sexual meaning to the word in a similarly "obsessive nutjob" way. Every instance of the word EVER is now radically redefined with this new meaning. Very unconvincing.
You should not repeat claims because you "were taught this at school". You say that that your lack of knowledge is the scripture's fault; not yours: when was the last time you studied the scriptures regarding the nature of angels? I would suggest that you never have, and that your deficit of knowledge in this area can only be ascribed to your own lack of diligence.
I do not dispute that many translation are not literal (i.e. they translate concepts, not the words. An example is the Jesus is called the Lamb of God in the Bible. In some Inuit/Eskimo translation He is called the "Seal of God" as the seal somewhat takes the place of the sheep in these cultures. This can be worrying when a small group of people decide what the essential cultural aspect of a symbol is etc.) however I dispute that they are poor in that they do not read well in English.
Most of the Bible is not poorly written. It is a wonderful work of historical literature apart from any religious significance.
The Bible speaks little on Angels as a class of spiritual beings. The Bible is predominately a history of the Jewish people, poetry, the Good News of Jesus Christ, and epistles to early Christian communities. In the interaction of God and men, angels play only a minor role. Paul speaks against the undue focus on angels in the early church.
cat !COOOOOLbus replied with this 15 years ago, 1 day later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #189,139
swamplights !!V3J448+/B joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 3 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #189,202
@188,370 (TrollBuster3000)
Christianity has changed for the same reasons. Also, why own religious texts that you wont read?
Christianity has changed for the same reasons. Also, why own religious texts that you wont read?
Anonymous S replied with this 15 years ago, 35 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #189,203
How do you respond to Jehovah's Witnesses?
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #189,204
swamplights !!V3J448+/B double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #189,205
@188,370 (TrollBuster3000)
Don't you realize that the Christian religion sounds just as crazy as Mormonism?
Don't you realize that the Christian religion sounds just as crazy as Mormonism?
Wade Wilson !IOdbnXsKDk joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #189,208
Did you have an imaginary friend as a child?
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #189,210
Didn't you once tell me that looking at someone with lust is a form of rape? So, how many children did you rape this week?
swamplights !!V3J448+/B double-posted this 15 years ago, 13 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #189,215
Once I worked with a very sweet and young Mormon nurse. She had actually converted with her husband. We always got along very well and had a lot of quality conversations. One day I asked her how she felt about Polygamy. Her face immediately froze and she said that she tried not to think about things like that. When I told her that it was all that I thought about, she abruptly walked away and was quiet for the rest of the evening.
(Edited 5 minutes later.)
Wade Wilson !IOdbnXsKDk replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #189,216
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #189,217
TrollBuster3000 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 7 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #189,410
@189,202 (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
Christianity has not changed in the way that Mormonism has. The practical outworking of love varies in different cultures, but not the principle. Hence why we follow the principle of Paul's recommendation to the Corinthians (head coverings to avoid causing offense) but not the practice (indeed, head coverings seem more likely to CAUSE offense today).
Christianity has not changed in the way that Mormonism has. The practical outworking of love varies in different cultures, but not the principle. Hence why we follow the principle of Paul's recommendation to the Corinthians (head coverings to avoid causing offense) but not the practice (indeed, head coverings seem more likely to CAUSE offense today).
TrollBuster3000 (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #189,412
@189,202 (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
I donated around 1000 books to charity and still own several hundred. They are on my reading list, but not high.
I donated around 1000 books to charity and still own several hundred. They are on my reading list, but not high.
TrollBuster3000 (OP) triple-posted this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #189,428
@189,203 (S)
With the Bible. Jehovah's Witness doctrines are based upon literal readings of metaphoric/vision/dream books of the Bible. I admire their principled stance against the state and agree that "orthodox" Christianity did lose its focus, though.
With the Bible. Jehovah's Witness doctrines are based upon literal readings of metaphoric/vision/dream books of the Bible. I admire their principled stance against the state and agree that "orthodox" Christianity did lose its focus, though.
Wade Wilson !IOdbnXsKDk replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #189,478
TrollBuster3000 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #189,582
@189,205 (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
Don't confuse Christianity with any particular Christian denomination.
Mormonism is still weirder - both have w "weird" belief in god, but Mormons believe in a weird god LOL
Don't confuse Christianity with any particular Christian denomination.
Mormonism is still weirder - both have w "weird" belief in god, but Mormons believe in a weird god LOL
TrollBuster3000 (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #189,583
@189,210 (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
Lol you think practically - I was speaking of ideas that really have no bearing on practical reality.
Lol you think practically - I was speaking of ideas that really have no bearing on practical reality.
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #189,586
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 19 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #189,907
swamplights !!V3J448+/B double-posted this 15 years ago, 36 seconds later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #189,908
TrollBuster3000 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 2 days later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #192,117
@189,586 (B)
@previous (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
God was a mortal being on another planet who, through virtuous life, attained godhood
@previous (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
God was a mortal being on another planet who, through virtuous life, attained godhood
TrollBuster3000 (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #192,119
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #192,127
@192,117 (TrollBuster3000)
How is that more incredible than an omniscient being who has supposedly always existed?
How is that more incredible than an omniscient being who has supposedly always existed?
swamplights !!V3J448+/B double-posted this 15 years ago, 23 seconds later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #192,129
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 24 minutes later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #192,161
@192,117 (TrollBuster3000)
As I understand it, stories of other stars are often taken as metaphor and symbolism. Taking it out of context is a bit like claiming that Catholics practice cannibalism.
The "mortal being ascends through virtue" story is a pretty standard trope as far as religions go.
Do you find their version unacceptably strange? If so, why?
As I understand it, stories of other stars are often taken as metaphor and symbolism. Taking it out of context is a bit like claiming that Catholics practice cannibalism.
The "mortal being ascends through virtue" story is a pretty standard trope as far as religions go.
Do you find their version unacceptably strange? If so, why?
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #192,164
@previous (B)
Mormons believe that dinosaur fossils are pieces of former worlds. I once knew a Christian fundie who believed that fossils were created by the devil to confuse people.
Mormons believe that dinosaur fossils are pieces of former worlds. I once knew a Christian fundie who believed that fossils were created by the devil to confuse people.
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 19 minutes later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #192,176
@previous (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
I don't know if that is a common belief. Most Mormons seem content with the idea that everything about history and scripture hasn't been revealed and that there are many things we aren't aware of. This leads to an attitude that is generally pretty comfortable with modern evolutionary theory -‬- even if some feel that evolution must have been "guided" to result in humanity.
Creationist theories are a guilty pleasure of mine. I enjoy reading them; the more whacked out and creative, the better they are.
I don't know if that is a common belief. Most Mormons seem content with the idea that everything about history and scripture hasn't been revealed and that there are many things we aren't aware of. This leads to an attitude that is generally pretty comfortable with modern evolutionary theory -‬- even if some feel that evolution must have been "guided" to result in humanity.
Creationist theories are a guilty pleasure of mine. I enjoy reading them; the more whacked out and creative, the better they are.
Syntax joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #192,195
@192,119 (TrollBuster3000)
OK My questions if I may?
On TV on the Morning of the 9-11 Attack on New York WTC that first plane hit - Then via TV millions of Christians prayed as they looked at the 2nd plane flying right in2 WTC #2
Is/Was God Def? Could care less? What is this value of prayer if Millions pray for the same thing and only see Fail.
How can anyone be expected to pray for a good job or better Health if prayers of the Millions is not payed attention 2
4 me that is one proof God AINT
OK My questions if I may?
On TV on the Morning of the 9-11 Attack on New York WTC that first plane hit - Then via TV millions of Christians prayed as they looked at the 2nd plane flying right in2 WTC #2
Is/Was God Def? Could care less? What is this value of prayer if Millions pray for the same thing and only see Fail.
How can anyone be expected to pray for a good job or better Health if prayers of the Millions is not payed attention 2
4 me that is one proof God AINT
TrollBuster3000 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 day later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,101
@192,127 (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
It is immediately less credible. An eternal Being only necessitates itself; an infinite regression of galactic life necessitates INFINITE constituent parts.
It is immediately less credible. An eternal Being only necessitates itself; an infinite regression of galactic life necessitates INFINITE constituent parts.
TrollBuster3000 (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,109
@192,161 (B)
To be fair I have not read the book so I don't know the context. I do not know that Catholics practice cannibalism; it may be that they only practice theophagy. Both are equally ridiculous to me.
"Mortal being ascends through virtue" is entirely counter to Christian theology. Christianity teaches that all humans have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God and that only through the unmerited grace of God can we be reconciled to Him.
To be fair I have not read the book so I don't know the context. I do not know that Catholics practice cannibalism; it may be that they only practice theophagy. Both are equally ridiculous to me.
"Mortal being ascends through virtue" is entirely counter to Christian theology. Christianity teaches that all humans have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God and that only through the unmerited grace of God can we be reconciled to Him.
TrollBuster3000 (OP) triple-posted this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,118
@192,176 (B)
That would be nice if true; but is it? Some statistics would be nice. I support gay marriage and believe in evolution and an old earth. I wish my denomination did, too; but it doesn't (my bible college friends do agree with me, though, to varying degrees).
Have you read the the Pearl of Great Price?
That would be nice if true; but is it? Some statistics would be nice. I support gay marriage and believe in evolution and an old earth. I wish my denomination did, too; but it doesn't (my bible college friends do agree with me, though, to varying degrees).
Have you read the the Pearl of Great Price?
Anonymous P replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,120
TrollBuster3000 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,122
@192,195 (Syntax)
Christianity supports the notion of free will. People have freedom to act contrary to God's pleasing, perfect will. People chose to act contrary to God's will on that day and flew planes into buildings, killing many people.
> Is/Was God Def?
lol
Christianity supports the notion of free will. People have freedom to act contrary to God's pleasing, perfect will. People chose to act contrary to God's will on that day and flew planes into buildings, killing many people.
> Is/Was God Def?
lol
TrollBuster3000 (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,125
@193,120 (P)
Do Catholics believe the human nature of Jesus is incarnate in the Eucharist or merely the divine?
Do Catholics believe the human nature of Jesus is incarnate in the Eucharist or merely the divine?
Anonymous P replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,128
jump? replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,130
@193,125 (TrollBuster3000)
Catholics believe that the host becomes the flesh of Jesus and the wine becomes his blood.
Well, they're supposed to. I doubt many actually believe.
Catholics believe that the host becomes the flesh of Jesus and the wine becomes his blood.
Well, they're supposed to. I doubt many actually believe.
Anonymous P replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,132
@previous (jump?)
It doesn't matter what they believe, they are merely eating crackers and drinking wine. Their belief doesn't constitute 3rd party accusations of cannibalism. But, you're fine calling them delusional. Or deluded. But not cannibals, son.
You're trying too hard.
Oh wait, you're Jump. That was directed at Mountie.
It doesn't matter what they believe, they are merely eating crackers and drinking wine. Their belief doesn't constitute 3rd party accusations of cannibalism. But, you're fine calling them delusional. Or deluded. But not cannibals, son.
You're trying too hard.
Oh wait, you're Jump. That was directed at Mountie.
(Edited 51 seconds later.)
Anonymous I replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,135
this thread has gone beyond full retard into a new level comparable to an autistic chernobyl
TrollBuster3000 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,140
@193,130 (jump?)
Yes but through sophistry I suppose they could declare they are only partaking of His divine nature. I don't really know.
Yes but through sophistry I suppose they could declare they are only partaking of His divine nature. I don't really know.
jump? replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,142
@previous (TrollBuster3000)
No. It's VERY specific. The host becomes his flesh. His actual flesh. The wine becomes his blood. There is no wiggle room.
No. It's VERY specific. The host becomes his flesh. His actual flesh. The wine becomes his blood. There is no wiggle room.
Anonymous P replied with this 15 years ago, 28 seconds later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,144
jump? replied with this 15 years ago, 52 seconds later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,145
TrollBuster3000 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 24 seconds later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,146
@193,132 (P)
Certainly I am not calling for their arrest for cannibalism.
I suppose your argument could be used against "to catch a predator" or prostitute-style entrapment. It doesn't matter if a person 'thought' they were about to engage in pedophilia or prostitution - they really weren't; no crime committed.
Certainly I am not calling for their arrest for cannibalism.
I suppose your argument could be used against "to catch a predator" or prostitute-style entrapment. It doesn't matter if a person 'thought' they were about to engage in pedophilia or prostitution - they really weren't; no crime committed.
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 14 seconds later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,147
Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 17 seconds later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,148
@193,122 (TrollBuster3000)
Are you saying that 100% of everyone inside the buildings 'acted contrary to God's pleasing'
All the 1st responders that died 'acted contrary to God's pleasing'
You do see my point. Many of them were kind and loving people and what good did that do for them? Get them in2 sum sort of Heaven sooner?
My point is what is the point of prayer if it does NOT change anything. The Bible tells that story about God being unpleasing re asking Noah to build the Ark so God could destroy what man had built up 2 that point.
As I C's it Bien Laden prayed to the same God so that the planes wood do as planned.
Appears since it was the same God, Muslims were being payed more attention 2 then Christians.
Are you saying that 100% of everyone inside the buildings 'acted contrary to God's pleasing'
All the 1st responders that died 'acted contrary to God's pleasing'
You do see my point. Many of them were kind and loving people and what good did that do for them? Get them in2 sum sort of Heaven sooner?
My point is what is the point of prayer if it does NOT change anything. The Bible tells that story about God being unpleasing re asking Noah to build the Ark so God could destroy what man had built up 2 that point.
As I C's it Bien Laden prayed to the same God so that the planes wood do as planned.
Appears since it was the same God, Muslims were being payed more attention 2 then Christians.
TrollBuster3000 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,149
@193,142 (jump?)
This is my understanding, yes, but I do not wish to teach something I am not sure of.
This is my understanding, yes, but I do not wish to teach something I am not sure of.
TrollBuster3000 (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,150
@193,148 (Syntax)
Does dyslexia affect reading as well as writing? The terrorists who planned, financed and participated in the attack were acting contrary to God's will.
Does dyslexia affect reading as well as writing? The terrorists who planned, financed and participated in the attack were acting contrary to God's will.
jump? replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,153
@previous (TrollBuster3000)
God knew this would happen when he made man. How do you known it's not his will? Seems to me like he enjoys sufferi g
God knew this would happen when he made man. How do you known it's not his will? Seems to me like he enjoys sufferi g
TrollBuster3000 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,164
Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,165
@193,150 (TrollBuster3000)
Those that did the attacks were serious Muslims. Of course when they were living undercover here in San Diego and going to Strip shows and drinking booze they had Gods permission 2 do such.
Muslims do believe in the same God you do. Of course as you know there are Right Wing and Left Wing n in the Christians just as there are the variations of extremes in Muslims.
Minister on TV yesterday in videos teaching parents how to beat kids with sticks and other serious devices because the Bible has passages that tell them 2
Christians also believe in Incest based on Genesis and whom/married/who and then there was that dude in bible that lived over 900 years and all of those wives one other dude had. Many Mormons who are Christians still believe in multiple Wives as in the days where the Bible meant something.
Those that did the attacks were serious Muslims. Of course when they were living undercover here in San Diego and going to Strip shows and drinking booze they had Gods permission 2 do such.
Muslims do believe in the same God you do. Of course as you know there are Right Wing and Left Wing n in the Christians just as there are the variations of extremes in Muslims.
Minister on TV yesterday in videos teaching parents how to beat kids with sticks and other serious devices because the Bible has passages that tell them 2
Christians also believe in Incest based on Genesis and whom/married/who and then there was that dude in bible that lived over 900 years and all of those wives one other dude had. Many Mormons who are Christians still believe in multiple Wives as in the days where the Bible meant something.
Anonymous P replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,169
Voice of !WisdomHsuU joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 0 seconds later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,170
Are you Lutheran master race?
TrollBuster3000 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,174
@previous (Voice of !WisdomHsuU)
I attend a pentecostal church because I believe (in Australia, at least) that their services are most culturally relevant i.e. lack of ritual. I do not agree with all the doctrine and dogma of my denomination, but recognize the preeminence of practical action before ideological purity.
I attend a pentecostal church because I believe (in Australia, at least) that their services are most culturally relevant i.e. lack of ritual. I do not agree with all the doctrine and dogma of my denomination, but recognize the preeminence of practical action before ideological purity.
Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,181
@previous (TrollBuster3000)
Pentecostal churches Rock here in USA re holly rollers in aisles as well as serious fun Rock n Roll Choir's - Love those Tent revivals and I do go for the music and always nice people. Not one ever tried to convert me other then to offer up some soul food after given many are black run operations yet the White ones are still fun.
When I lived in Australia I only attended Catholic Churches but did hire a local Aboriginal priest to perform a special cerebration at the Global Satellite Tracking n Command/Control station in Dubbo NSW - Catholic Priest in town helped me locate just the right one
Pentecostal churches Rock here in USA re holly rollers in aisles as well as serious fun Rock n Roll Choir's - Love those Tent revivals and I do go for the music and always nice people. Not one ever tried to convert me other then to offer up some soul food after given many are black run operations yet the White ones are still fun.
When I lived in Australia I only attended Catholic Churches but did hire a local Aboriginal priest to perform a special cerebration at the Global Satellite Tracking n Command/Control station in Dubbo NSW - Catholic Priest in town helped me locate just the right one
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TrollBuster3000 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,187
@previous (Syntax)
Yeah, I know lol. We do not have the "mainline" protestant denominations that you have in the USA, so our pentecostal churches have somewhat evolved to fill that role.
Yeah, I know lol. We do not have the "mainline" protestant denominations that you have in the USA, so our pentecostal churches have somewhat evolved to fill that role.
Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,193
@previous (TrollBuster3000)
Do they still speak in tongues? Its been about 12 years since I drove by a Tent doing a Pentecostal revival. Last one was a store front on my way back from a club where I danced for about 3 hours. Stood outside and someone came out 2 invite me inside. 100% black. I do not remember if I went in because usually after dancing I want to shower up lol
Do they still speak in tongues? Its been about 12 years since I drove by a Tent doing a Pentecostal revival. Last one was a store front on my way back from a club where I danced for about 3 hours. Stood outside and someone came out 2 invite me inside. 100% black. I do not remember if I went in because usually after dancing I want to shower up lol
Anonymous P replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,195
Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,205
@previous (P)
TrollBuster3000 appears to understand me EXCEPT eye notice he cannot explain why Bien Ladens prayers to the very same Exact God had prayers answered and Christians in USA did not.
TrollBuster3000 appears to understand me EXCEPT eye notice he cannot explain why Bien Ladens prayers to the very same Exact God had prayers answered and Christians in USA did not.
Anonymous P replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,207
Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,214
@previous (P)
No thank you. I once tried that years ago
> Fail
I R not in the running for the 2nd cumming
No thank you. I once tried that years ago
> Fail
I R not in the running for the 2nd cumming
TrollBuster3000 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 52 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,285
@193,193 (Syntax)
Yes, they do. There are more normal ones and more weird ones though. I go to a more normal one.
Yes, they do. There are more normal ones and more weird ones though. I go to a more normal one.
Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 13 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,296
@previous (TrollBuster3000)
> Those that did the attacks were serious Muslims. Of course when they were living undercover >here in San Diego and going to Strip shows and drinking booze they had Gods permission 2 do >such.
> Muslims do believe in the same God you do. Of course as you know there are Right Wing and Left >Wing n in the Christians just as there are the variations of extremes in Muslims.
> Minister on TV yesterday in videos teaching parents how to beat kids with sticks and other >serious devices because the Bible has passages that tell them 2
> Christians also believe in Incest based on Genesis and whom/married/who and then there was >that dude in bible that lived over 900 years and all of those wives one other dude had. Many >Mormons who are Christians still believe in multiple Wives as in the days where the Bible >meant something.
Please comment
> Those that did the attacks were serious Muslims. Of course when they were living undercover >here in San Diego and going to Strip shows and drinking booze they had Gods permission 2 do >such.
> Muslims do believe in the same God you do. Of course as you know there are Right Wing and Left >Wing n in the Christians just as there are the variations of extremes in Muslims.
> Minister on TV yesterday in videos teaching parents how to beat kids with sticks and other >serious devices because the Bible has passages that tell them 2
> Christians also believe in Incest based on Genesis and whom/married/who and then there was >that dude in bible that lived over 900 years and all of those wives one other dude had. Many >Mormons who are Christians still believe in multiple Wives as in the days where the Bible >meant something.
Please comment
TrollBuster3000 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,302
@previous (Syntax)
It could be argued that they were not serious muslims. Why else would they commit such atrocities? That they went to strip shows and drank alcohol in contravention of Islamic law further proves this.
I am not interested in polygamy but I don't condemn those who are.
It could be argued that they were not serious muslims. Why else would they commit such atrocities? That they went to strip shows and drank alcohol in contravention of Islamic law further proves this.
I am not interested in polygamy but I don't condemn those who are.
Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 10 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,309
@previous (TrollBuster3000)
I think they were as serious in terms of true believers as say the Christian Klu Klux Klan were/are.
A lot of white racists in Montana and states close by call them selves Christians.
Your Church is more middle of the road except many wood point out the speaking in tongues is a little over the top, yet I know that exists in the bible if I remember correctly.
I see no harm in it.
My whole original point in using the Muslim prayer to God was only to highlight that I doubt prayer has a place because with millions and millions of people all praying at the very same tyme for the very same thing during the TV coverage of the first plane vs the 2nd plane flying into building #2 - Its a rare tyme when one can document millions doing a prayer all at the same tyme.
Earthquakes are another example or even Tornadoes. You have all those in Churches and they are there for God and then the Church is blown to hell and gone in seconds. I doubt all those people were "act"(ing) "contrary to God's pleasing"
In other words when I ask you as a Christian to explain the Y God does this and someone like you may reply its a Free Will thing God set up at the Get Go - If so then if its Free Will God gave Humans what wood the point be of prayer?
I think they were as serious in terms of true believers as say the Christian Klu Klux Klan were/are.
A lot of white racists in Montana and states close by call them selves Christians.
Your Church is more middle of the road except many wood point out the speaking in tongues is a little over the top, yet I know that exists in the bible if I remember correctly.
I see no harm in it.
My whole original point in using the Muslim prayer to God was only to highlight that I doubt prayer has a place because with millions and millions of people all praying at the very same tyme for the very same thing during the TV coverage of the first plane vs the 2nd plane flying into building #2 - Its a rare tyme when one can document millions doing a prayer all at the same tyme.
Earthquakes are another example or even Tornadoes. You have all those in Churches and they are there for God and then the Church is blown to hell and gone in seconds. I doubt all those people were "act"(ing) "contrary to God's pleasing"
In other words when I ask you as a Christian to explain the Y God does this and someone like you may reply its a Free Will thing God set up at the Get Go - If so then if its Free Will God gave Humans what wood the point be of prayer?
Anonymous I replied with this 15 years ago, 13 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,326
Anonymous W replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,329
jump? replied with this 15 years ago, 25 seconds later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,330
@193,164 (TrollBuster3000)
Demonstrate this. God watches the ones he "loves" suffer.
Demonstrate his love. He could have given us knowledge. If Jesus existed he could have saved so many lives by just teaching people good hygiene. He didn't. He could have lowered the infant and mother mortality rates for pregnancy by an amazing amount by simply teaching people to wash their hands.
There is nothing that demonstrates god is loving or possessive of knowledge we humans don't have (didnt introduce ANY new ideas to humanity).
Demonstrate this. God watches the ones he "loves" suffer.
Demonstrate his love. He could have given us knowledge. If Jesus existed he could have saved so many lives by just teaching people good hygiene. He didn't. He could have lowered the infant and mother mortality rates for pregnancy by an amazing amount by simply teaching people to wash their hands.
There is nothing that demonstrates god is loving or possessive of knowledge we humans don't have (didnt introduce ANY new ideas to humanity).
Anonymous P replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,334
TrollBuster3000 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 10 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,352
@193,309 (Syntax)
KKK were not true believers. Racial equality is a biblical philosophy.
Speaking in tongues in the bible may or may not be what is practiced today.
God won't stop you from hurting people. You should stop you.
KKK were not true believers. Racial equality is a biblical philosophy.
Speaking in tongues in the bible may or may not be what is practiced today.
God won't stop you from hurting people. You should stop you.
TrollBuster3000 (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,358
@193,330 (jump?)
God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son; so that whoever believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life.
God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son; so that whoever believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life.
Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,362
@previous (TrollBuster3000)
Just what will God do for YOU in Your opinion? Where does free will begin - End and when does God do anything for you?
Just what will God do for YOU in Your opinion? Where does free will begin - End and when does God do anything for you?
TrollBuster3000 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,364
@previous (Syntax)
I don't deserve anything from God and don't feel entitled to anything. All good that happens to me is a blessing: I do bad but get good. I sin, but get grace. God loves me.
I don't deserve anything from God and don't feel entitled to anything. All good that happens to me is a blessing: I do bad but get good. I sin, but get grace. God loves me.
jump? replied with this 15 years ago, 38 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,419
@193,358 (TrollBuster3000)
That isn't an answer. That's what god tells you. Demonstrate how he loves. He can't.
If Jesus was sent to help, why didn't he introduce anything new? Why didn't he teach basic hygiene? Even if just by example? Why didnt he introduce any new concepts in terms of humanity?
How did Jesus help? How did his dying for my sins do anything? It doesnt make any sense.
You can't demonstrate god's love. The only way to show his love is by saying how he sent his son to tell people to love him and say a bunch of shit people already knew.
Come on. Give yourself more credit at least.
That isn't an answer. That's what god tells you. Demonstrate how he loves. He can't.
If Jesus was sent to help, why didn't he introduce anything new? Why didn't he teach basic hygiene? Even if just by example? Why didnt he introduce any new concepts in terms of humanity?
How did Jesus help? How did his dying for my sins do anything? It doesnt make any sense.
You can't demonstrate god's love. The only way to show his love is by saying how he sent his son to tell people to love him and say a bunch of shit people already knew.
Come on. Give yourself more credit at least.
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,422
@193,109 (TrollBuster3000)
> "Mortal being ascends through virtue" is entirely counter to Christian theology.
I'm baffled.
> "Mortal being ascends through virtue" is entirely counter to Christian theology.
I'm baffled.
Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,425
@193,419 (jump?)
Me thinks it falls apart when one looks at famine in Africa. All the hurt of children and its a bit of a fairy tale in my opinion to think a caring God wood let that occur if other then free will and free will just leads to horrible death in such cases.
Same for child abuse. A real God wood protect Children and not make it easy for what happens.
Good fiction but what the hell happened to all the other Legit Gods of Rome and Greece and Indian Gods of South America and USA area and all those Gods drawn on Walls and Cosmos.
How did 1000's of Gods end up being one rather impotent God?
Me thinks it falls apart when one looks at famine in Africa. All the hurt of children and its a bit of a fairy tale in my opinion to think a caring God wood let that occur if other then free will and free will just leads to horrible death in such cases.
Same for child abuse. A real God wood protect Children and not make it easy for what happens.
Good fiction but what the hell happened to all the other Legit Gods of Rome and Greece and Indian Gods of South America and USA area and all those Gods drawn on Walls and Cosmos.
How did 1000's of Gods end up being one rather impotent God?
jump? replied with this 15 years ago, 25 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,456
@previous (Syntax)
The Christian answer: they weren't real.
The non-delusional answer: no one left to believe, because they were forced to believe in other shit (or be killed).
The Christian answer: they weren't real.
The non-delusional answer: no one left to believe, because they were forced to believe in other shit (or be killed).
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Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,458
@previous (jump?)
Cathy~lickers still have Three the Father Son and Holy Ghost and with so many doing prayers to Mother Mary that makes sorta 4 so at least one Female gets the get.
Cathy~lickers still have Three the Father Son and Holy Ghost and with so many doing prayers to Mother Mary that makes sorta 4 so at least one Female gets the get.
jump? replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,467
@previous (Syntax)
No. Cathy-lickers have one god who has three aspects.
The saints are where you get into polytheistic worship, but they call them
Saints and even though they pray to them and worship them. Cathy-lickers don't call it that though. They're so delusional.
I mean, they have so much faith. Unbelievable amounts of faith.
No. Cathy-lickers have one god who has three aspects.
The saints are where you get into polytheistic worship, but they call them
Saints and even though they pray to them and worship them. Cathy-lickers don't call it that though. They're so delusional.
I mean, they have so much faith. Unbelievable amounts of faith.
(Edited 6 minutes later.)
TrollBuster3000 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,537
@193,419 (jump?)
Because you don't believe in God you see death as the ultimate evil that can befall a person. It's not.
That ultimate evil that can befall a person is to never known the love of God.
Because you don't believe in God you see death as the ultimate evil that can befall a person. It's not.
That ultimate evil that can befall a person is to never known the love of God.
TrollBuster3000 (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,540
@193,422 (B)
... Did you just type in ladder to google? First example has nothing to do with ascending through virtue, and the second book runs counter to Christian theology.
... Did you just type in ladder to google? First example has nothing to do with ascending through virtue, and the second book runs counter to Christian theology.
TrollBuster3000 (OP) triple-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,541
@193,425 (Syntax)
> All the hurt of children and its a bit of a fairy tale in my opinion to think a caring God wood let that occur if other then free will and free will just leads to horrible death in such cases.
You should give them some food.
> All the hurt of children and its a bit of a fairy tale in my opinion to think a caring God wood let that occur if other then free will and free will just leads to horrible death in such cases.
You should give them some food.
jump? replied with this 15 years ago, 25 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,553
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,554
TrollBuster3000 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,556
TrollBuster3000 (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,557
@193,554 (B)
> "I'm baffled."
> post random, unrelated stories
> "You can't possibly be this dense."
Educate yourself.
> "I'm baffled."
> post random, unrelated stories
> "You can't possibly be this dense."
Educate yourself.
jump? replied with this 15 years ago, 23 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,564
@193,556 (TrollBuster3000)
Do I? I dunno about that. You may have perceived it that way, and maybe I exaggerated a point to say it was more serious over something else, but Im surprised I would say that. It's certainly not how I feel.
Do I? I dunno about that. You may have perceived it that way, and maybe I exaggerated a point to say it was more serious over something else, but Im surprised I would say that. It's certainly not how I feel.
jump? double-posted this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,566
@193,302 (TrollBuster3000)
ThosE suicide bombers are given permission to do shit to blend in, but the truth is, they probably aren't serious muslims. They use many pressures to get people to do suicide attacks. Many are threatened to be killed anyway (in brutal ways) along with their families.
Im pretty sure that some of the 9/11 terrorists had their families in the US and they had no idea anything was going on (the wives).
ThosE suicide bombers are given permission to do shit to blend in, but the truth is, they probably aren't serious muslims. They use many pressures to get people to do suicide attacks. Many are threatened to be killed anyway (in brutal ways) along with their families.
Im pretty sure that some of the 9/11 terrorists had their families in the US and they had no idea anything was going on (the wives).
TrollBuster3000 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,576
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 3 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,613
TrollBuster3000 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 7 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,982
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 14 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #193,991
@previous (TrollBuster3000)
For people don't believe in god, death would be the worst thing that could ever happen.
For people don't believe in god, death would be the worst thing that could ever happen.
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