Topic: SOCTUS rules that someone in prison CANNOT present new evidence to appeal their case

Anonymous A started this discussion 3 years ago #105,071

on the ground of poor representation. This is absurd. We know 100% that innocent people have been imprisoned and even executed because they did not receive a fair trial.

(Edited 17 minutes later.)

Meta !Sober//iZs joined in and replied with this 3 years ago, 2 minutes later[^] [v] #1,181,941

> SOCTUS
> they did not received a fair trial

I think someone "did not received" an education 😂

Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 3 years ago, 11 seconds later, 2 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,181,942

@OP
Why don't you do something about it then?

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 13 minutes later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,181,944

@previous (C)
Nothing I can do but vote.

Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 3 years ago, 18 seconds later, 17 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,181,945

What's worse is that in one ruling they decided that the imprisoned do not have the right to have new DNA evidence heard.

They've also ruled separately that it's permissible for people simply arrested to have their DNA forcefully taken on booking without court order/warrant. The judgement summarized DNA collection as no different than taking one's finger prints on booking.

Anonymous D double-posted this 3 years ago, 16 seconds later, 17 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,181,946

@1,181,944 (A)
> voting
lol

boof joined in and replied with this 3 years ago, 4 minutes later, 21 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,181,951

kind of shitty way to judge

they'd be villains in a bible story

Anonymous C replied with this 3 years ago, 25 minutes later, 47 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,181,963

@1,181,944 (A)
Just establish a well regulated militia in accordance with your Second Amendment rights.

Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 3 years ago, 2 minutes later, 50 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,181,966

@1,181,944 (A)

> Nothing I can do but vote.

Remind me how the United States of America was founded... 🤔🤔🤔

Anonymous C replied with this 3 years ago, 2 minutes later, 53 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,181,970

@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
Are you suggesting that @OPenis massacres the Supreme Court's families and steals their homes?

Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 3 years ago, 2 minutes later, 55 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,181,973

@previous (C)
Not necessarily. King George's family weren't massacred and got to keep their homes.

Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 3 years ago, 15 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,181,992

@1,181,945 (D)

> What's worse is that in one ruling they decided that the imprisoned do not have the right to have new DNA evidence heard.
>
> They've also ruled separately that it's permissible for people simply arrested to have their DNA forcefully taken on booking without court order/warrant. The judgement summarized DNA collection as no different than taking one's finger prints on booking.

What's the problem with this? If the person claims they are innocent, wouldn't having a DNA sample/fingerprints help clear their name?

I think when you refuse, you're hiding something.

Anonymous D replied with this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,181,993

@previous (F)
Sure, why don't we all submit DNA samples. Maybe we can all install cameras in our houses too. What's there to hide lol?

Anonymous F replied with this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,181,994

@previous (D)

> Sure, why don't we all submit DNA samples. Maybe we can all install cameras in our houses too. What's there to hide lol?

I'm talking about when you get arrested fucknuts.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 26 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,181,995

@1,181,992 (F)
May I rifle through your wife's underwear drawer? After all, if she is doing nothing wrong, then she has nothing to fear. OR, maybe people want privacy from an intrusive government.

Anonymous F replied with this 3 years ago, 48 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,181,997

@previous (A)
See comment above fucknuts.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 31 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,181,999

@previous (F)
Arrested people are NOT GUILTY. They have every right to due process, and they still have rights of citizens.

Anonymous D replied with this 3 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,182,004

@1,181,994 (F)
Because everyone arrested is guilty and deserves no protections to unreasonable searches?

Anonymous F replied with this 3 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,182,009

@1,181,999 (A)

> Arrested people are NOT GUILTY. They have every right to due process, and they still have rights of citizens.

Did the victims of these criminals have their due process?

Anonymous F double-posted this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,182,013

@1,182,004 (D)

> Because everyone arrested is guilty and deserves no protections to unreasonable searches?

Who said anything about searches? If your DNA or fingerprints aren't at the scene of the crime, then I guess you're cleared.

Anonymous D replied with this 3 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,182,020

@1,182,009 (F)
Yes. That is the point of judges and juries.

Anonymous D double-posted this 3 years ago, 22 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,182,021

@1,182,013 (F)
0/10

Anonymous F replied with this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,182,023

@1,182,020 (D)
So the woman that was murdered by this criminal, was given her due process?

Dick Minichan™ !Memes4aSuc replied with this 3 years ago, 32 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,182,024

This threads grate.

Anonymous F replied with this 3 years ago, 52 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,182,026

@1,182,021 (D)
Nice "I've been defeated" post.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 16 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,182,031

@1,182,009 (F)
Totally irrelevant. Every accused person in the US has the right to due process.

Anonymous F replied with this 3 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,182,040

@previous (A)
So if you break into my house and start beating my kid to death with a skateboard, I have to stand by and watch just so you can have your "due process"?

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 18 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,182,048

@previous (F)
That is literally not what due process means. Go back to school.

Anonymous D replied with this 3 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,182,052

@1,182,026 (F)
Not really, just getting bored of the conversation. It's not fun if you don't put in even the slightest effort in your trolling. Anyway, I'm out. Try more next time. Bye.