Anonymous A started this discussion 3 years ago#104,903
The seminal work by Harris and Klebold arguably inaugurated the field of modern school shootings. I've been led to wonder:
If the numerous propane and pipe bombs had worked as intended and collapsed the library, would Cho, Lanza, Holmes, Ramos, and colleagues not have also used these innovations in their works?
Would the field of school shootings have instead been the field of school bombings?
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 3 years ago, 2 minutes later[^][v]#1,180,147
I was reading about Columbine recently and found it interesting that the SWAT team took 3 hours to enter the building. In fact it was not until 2 hours after the shooters had killed themselves did they finally enter the school. Instead they were busy "securing the perimeter" and interrogating unrelated students. Some things never change lol.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 2 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,180,240
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I have not. Are you referring to a specific documentary or something?
Why do you think they did all this? I just can't make sense of it. Dylan went to the prom like 3 days before and people claim he was acting normal and was talking about his future life, college, etc.
Anyway, I do wonder if the bullying motive is a half truth (as opposed to being an entirely news-created fiction as some of the other explanations seem). These bullying complaints were coming from their own mouths and from their own journals. I don't think it accounts for everything, by any stretch, but it might count for something.
I suspect that the motives probably wouldn't be mysterious at all if the "basement tapes" were released. But maybe they haven't been released simply because they have detailed instructions on bomb making or something.
Also another weird thing to me is that they all kept journals, even Eric's dad. Do people still do this? I never understood what would compel someone to write down their inner thoughts, "welp, I hope no one finds this!". Arguably Eric and Dylan might've wanted that, but Eric's father didn't. He tried to argue that his journal should not be released to the public.
The reports of a third shooter are also interesting, although I never looked into it too thoroughly. I don't think all this was a conspiracy (I mean, technically it was, but not that kind of conspiracy), but there do seem like a few loose ends that make one (me at least) wonder.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 3 years ago, 4 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,180,241
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I don't know about Eric, but I do wonder if Dylan was asexual or effectively so. Robyn, the girl he went to the prom with him 3 days before the massacre invited him. People claim they weren't actually dating and were friends. From what I guess, it seems like Dylan was the one that wasn't interested.
Robyn is also the one that bought them the majority of the guns used. Interestingly, she wasn't charged with any crime, but two other guys who sold them a single gun got 4+ year prison sentences each. People say they couldn't have charged Robyn because of some gun show technicality about how she bought the guns. But that's bullshit. There are so many crimes that can be dreamt up to charge someone with. Also, there's reason to believe that she knew they were sawing off the barrels of the guns and potentially shot some of them herself at a target range. This in itself is a crime even if the sale could be claimed not to be.
I read about the theft, but not about them bullying anyway. I read about one of them faking his own death with ketchup when his girlfriend broke up with him, but nothing else that'd I'd think was bullying.
> And one of them was having an affair with an adult, married woman
Woah, never heard about that.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 43 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,180,276
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If it's the classmate I think, it's because said classmate was giving Eric rides to school and Eric got upset that he was always late picking him up. So the classmate stopped giving him rides and Eric responded by vandalizing his car, putting firecrackers around the classmate's house, and writing a death threat on his website. The classmate reported him to the police but nothing came of it. Eric wasn't searched or questioned and the webpage containing the death threats stayed up and was up even after the massacre.
Anyway, the classmate coincidentally saw Eric on the morning of the massacre, before the start of it, and told him something like "I like you now, get out of here."
The classmate when on to author a book. I haven't read it, but have read a summary and apparently he claims that he thinks bullying contributed to this, interestingly enough. I believe it's one of the few books written by someone who had known the shooters fairly well. He knew Dylan since elementary school, IIRC.