Topic: If you let your cat run loose outside then you do not love your cat.
Anonymous A started this discussion 3 years ago #104,867
You are risking their lives, and risking never seeing them again, every time you let them out that door. How can you do that? Aren't you worried the whole time?
Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo joined in and replied with this 3 years ago, 5 minutes later[^] [v] #1,179,889
Do you support your cat, or do you support child suicide? That, I believe, is the question of the century. Thanks.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 3 minutes later, 8 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,179,890
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 3 years ago, 6 minutes later, 14 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,179,893
Cats have been living outdoors for millennia. Thanks.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 10 minutes later, 24 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,179,894
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
And being killed, being tortured, starving, and getting lost outdoors, too. Grazie.
And being killed, being tortured, starving, and getting lost outdoors, too. Grazie.
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 3 years ago, 28 minutes later, 52 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,179,906
What about barn cats? They kind of NEED to be outside to do their job, but I still love them.
Anonymous D double-posted this 3 years ago, 43 seconds later, 53 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,179,907
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,179,909
@1,179,906 (D)
Ok, fine. On a farm in the middle of nowhere, they are safe from humans, but still, not safe from predators and birds of prey.
Ok, fine. On a farm in the middle of nowhere, they are safe from humans, but still, not safe from predators and birds of prey.
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 3 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,179,911
@previous (A)
> not safe from predators and birds of prey.
Are you from the Jurassic era or something? What birds of prey go after cats with any regularity?
> not safe from predators and birds of prey.
Are you from the Jurassic era or something? What birds of prey go after cats with any regularity?
Anonymous D replied with this 3 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,179,912
@previous (E)
Biggest we have on this property is a hawk, and they leave the cats alone. The property is regularly walked by a great Pyrenees, which keeps the coyotes away. We have black racers eating the venomous snakes. Idg what OP is so worked up about.
Biggest we have on this property is a hawk, and they leave the cats alone. The property is regularly walked by a great Pyrenees, which keeps the coyotes away. We have black racers eating the venomous snakes. Idg what OP is so worked up about.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 13 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,179,914
@previous (D)
Good for you, and in a rural setting, it could just work. In cities, however, it is dangerous toilet them wander outside freely.
Good for you, and in a rural setting, it could just work. In cities, however, it is dangerous toilet them wander outside freely.
Anonymous D replied with this 3 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,179,916
@previous (A)> Dangerous toilet them
> Toilet them
I agree, placing cats in toilets can only end in disaster.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 16 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,179,919
Big Daddy Derek !Uvm54ORbmo replied with this 3 years ago, 1 hour later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,179,937
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 3 years ago, 14 hours later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,009
I have lived with one or another cat for 37 years in my life, and one went missing for a few days. Another got attacked by a dog and probably died of the stress. Apart from that, all cats could leave the house, they aren't prisoner cats. Wearing orange jumpers.
Cats are natural outdoor cats. They have been roaming their local area for millions of years. Let's keep it that way.
Cats are natural outdoor cats. They have been roaming their local area for millions of years. Let's keep it that way.
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Anonymous F double-posted this 3 years ago, 29 seconds later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,010
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Kook !!rcSrAtaAC joined in and replied with this 3 years ago, 15 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,015
Anonymous F replied with this 3 years ago, 14 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,016
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
That's true, however native animals also kill native animals. In a city what native animals are there? In my city there are birds and insects. That's pretty much it.
That's true, however native animals also kill native animals. In a city what native animals are there? In my city there are birds and insects. That's pretty much it.
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 3 years ago, 1 hour later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,024
@1,180,015 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> They also kill a lot of native animals
It's the animal way of life. Wild animals eat wild animals. How else do they survive?
> They also kill a lot of native animals
It's the animal way of life. Wild animals eat wild animals. How else do they survive?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 59 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,035
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 3 years ago, 32 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,037
@1,180,016 (F)
@1,180,024 (H)
The problem is when a non native species overtake an environment that didn't adapt to accommodate them. Entire species have been wiped out through this
@1,180,024 (H)
The problem is when a non native species overtake an environment that didn't adapt to accommodate them. Entire species have been wiped out through this
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Anonymous D replied with this 3 years ago, 8 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,038
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Yes, people act like cats are an exception to invasive species, but they really are not. If left unchecked cats can decimate an ecosystem as easily as any other invasive species.
Yes, people act like cats are an exception to invasive species, but they really are not. If left unchecked cats can decimate an ecosystem as easily as any other invasive species.
Anonymous E replied with this 3 years ago, 6 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,042
@1,180,015 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I believe I read recently that the most common cause of death for birds in the US is domestic cats. I might've even read that here on MC. I can't remember.
I believe I read recently that the most common cause of death for birds in the US is domestic cats. I might've even read that here on MC. I can't remember.
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Anonymous F replied with this 3 years ago, 53 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,059
@1,180,035 (A)
One cat died because someone left the gate open and a dog went into the property. The other cat proved that you can't read, it came back after a few days.
One cat died because someone left the gate open and a dog went into the property. The other cat proved that you can't read, it came back after a few days.
Anonymous E replied with this 3 years ago, 1 hour later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,084
@previous (F)
And in doing so it also proved that Master's degrees from the deep south don't mean anything these days.
And in doing so it also proved that Master's degrees from the deep south don't mean anything these days.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 3 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,095
@1,180,042 (E)
Yes it's true. Invasive species are a very interesting problem and more people should be aware of it
Yes it's true. Invasive species are a very interesting problem and more people should be aware of it