Topic: Suggest me an e-reader, fora
The Winefather started this discussion 3 years ago #104,810
I'm about to pull the trigger on a Kindle Paperwhite™ 5™.
I've read that e-readers are not that great for reading pdfs due to the screen size. But the Paperwhite has a 6.8 inch screen and a slightly higher res than older models, so maybe it'll be good enough? I'll almost exclusively be reading pdfs.
In any case, I'm looking for something preferably under $200 and with an e-ink screen.
I've read that e-readers are not that great for reading pdfs due to the screen size. But the Paperwhite has a 6.8 inch screen and a slightly higher res than older models, so maybe it'll be good enough? I'll almost exclusively be reading pdfs.
In any case, I'm looking for something preferably under $200 and with an e-ink screen.
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boof joined in and replied with this 3 years ago, 1 hour later[^] [v] #1,179,397
like, get a prostitute to read to you, giver her ass a rest
tteh !MemesToDNA joined in and replied with this 3 years ago, 30 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,179,398
The Oasis has a bigger screen and higher resolution, but it's outside your $200. I think the Paperwhite™ 5™ is great for the price.
> I've read that e-readers are not that great for reading pdfs due to the screen size.
They're not great with PDFs, aye. You can convert PDF to Kindle's .mobi format with Calibre but the results range from amazing to horrendous, so don't expect much.
> I've read that e-readers are not that great for reading pdfs due to the screen size.
They're not great with PDFs, aye. You can convert PDF to Kindle's .mobi format with Calibre but the results range from amazing to horrendous, so don't expect much.
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 3 years ago, 4 hours later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,179,417
@OPenis
Just buy a computer.
Just buy a computer.
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 3 years ago, 36 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,179,422
how many topics have you made about Kindles? how can you act like you don't already know
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Meta !Sober//iZs joined in and replied with this 3 years ago, 1 hour later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,179,438
I'd get something larger if you want to read PDFs. Most of them are laid out and typeset for 8.5x11" or A4 page size which is much larger than 6.8" across. Unless you want to hold it about 4" away from your face and squint to read fine print, I'd recommend something at least 8", preferably 10" screen. Most PDFs are a total pain in the ass to read on Kindle or Kindle-size devices.
This isn't a problem for actual e-books though, where you can resize the font to a comfortable size.
This isn't a problem for actual e-books though, where you can resize the font to a comfortable size.
The Winefather (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 3 hours later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,179,469
Thanks everyone.
@1,179,398 (tteh !MemesToDNA)
Wikipedia says it's 7 inch as compared with the Paperwhite's 6.8 inch, but also nearly 2x the price? I'm not against paying more than $200, but that does seem kind of steep since the devices look pretty similar to me. Am I missing something?
@1,179,422 (E)
Not I.
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
Any suggestions on a 8 or 10 inch? Doesn't have to be less than $200, but the lower end is preferred, price-wise.
@1,179,398 (tteh !MemesToDNA)
Wikipedia says it's 7 inch as compared with the Paperwhite's 6.8 inch, but also nearly 2x the price? I'm not against paying more than $200, but that does seem kind of steep since the devices look pretty similar to me. Am I missing something?
@1,179,422 (E)
Not I.
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
Any suggestions on a 8 or 10 inch? Doesn't have to be less than $200, but the lower end is preferred, price-wise.
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 3 years ago, 5 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,179,470
@previous (The Winefather)
I'd get one of the Boox tablets but they start at like $400 and go way up from there. The Kindle devices are cheap because Amazon is heavily subsidizing them. Book and Kobo can't do this.
I'd get one of the Boox tablets but they start at like $400 and go way up from there. The Kindle devices are cheap because Amazon is heavily subsidizing them. Book and Kobo can't do this.
The Winefather (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 12 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,179,483
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
I see. Do you have one?
I was kinda turned off from Boox because it's from China and seems to have nebulous privacy practices. Obviously that isn't different from Amazon, but I'm willing to overlook more if I'm paying less, as with all things.
Maybe that's irrelevant anyway if you can side-load pdfs from a computer cable without ever using wifi?
I see. Do you have one?
I was kinda turned off from Boox because it's from China and seems to have nebulous privacy practices. Obviously that isn't different from Amazon, but I'm willing to overlook more if I'm paying less, as with all things.
Maybe that's irrelevant anyway if you can side-load pdfs from a computer cable without ever using wifi?
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 3 years ago, 25 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,179,485
@previous (The Winefather)
No. I seriously considered a Boox at one point but I couldn't really justify the expense since I have a nice enough laptop to read PDFs on. If prices come down to, say, the $250-ish level I would buy one.
> I was kinda turned off from Boox because it's from China and seems to have nebulous privacy practices. Obviously that isn't different from Amazon, but I'm willing to overlook more if I'm paying less, as with all things.
Amazon isn't exactly known for respecting user privacy themselves. The Boox are certainly more expensive but you are quite literally getting twice as much hardware. Also there's no ads or walled garden bullshit.
> Maybe that's irrelevant anyway if you can side-load pdfs from a computer cable without ever using wifi?
Just keep in airplane mode and sideload away. If your digital library is exciting enough to get the attention of three letter agencies you are fucked anyway.
No. I seriously considered a Boox at one point but I couldn't really justify the expense since I have a nice enough laptop to read PDFs on. If prices come down to, say, the $250-ish level I would buy one.
> I was kinda turned off from Boox because it's from China and seems to have nebulous privacy practices. Obviously that isn't different from Amazon, but I'm willing to overlook more if I'm paying less, as with all things.
Amazon isn't exactly known for respecting user privacy themselves. The Boox are certainly more expensive but you are quite literally getting twice as much hardware. Also there's no ads or walled garden bullshit.
> Maybe that's irrelevant anyway if you can side-load pdfs from a computer cable without ever using wifi?
Just keep in airplane mode and sideload away. If your digital library is exciting enough to get the attention of three letter agencies you are fucked anyway.
The Winefather (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 4 days later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,378
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@1,179,417 (D)
@1,179,422 (E)
@1,179,423 (E)
@1,179,438 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
@1,179,469 (The Winefather)
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@1,179,483 (The Winefather)
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
Just pulled the trigger on a used 10.3 inch, Boox Note Air, fora. I found one for $370. While more than what I was planning to spend, I think it's overall not a bad deal, considering how expensive it seems that size range gets. And anyway, the low refresh rate on e-ink screens means I didn't really have a choice to comfortably get a smaller device. I'd have to scroll around to see a full page making it nearly unusable since most of the pdfs I read have a two column format or other unusual non-reflowable layouts.
It also doesn't hurt that the Boox has a fully-fledged Android OS, unlike the more locked down Kindle and Kobo devices.
And it appears easy to side-load everything without any networking, so I don't have to worry about it packet sniffing, live streaming everything I ever do to Xi Jinping, constantly auto-updating, and other bullshit like that.
@1,179,398 (tteh !MemesToDNA)
@1,179,417 (D)
@1,179,422 (E)
@1,179,423 (E)
@1,179,438 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
@1,179,469 (The Winefather)
@1,179,470 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
@1,179,483 (The Winefather)
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
Just pulled the trigger on a used 10.3 inch, Boox Note Air, fora. I found one for $370. While more than what I was planning to spend, I think it's overall not a bad deal, considering how expensive it seems that size range gets. And anyway, the low refresh rate on e-ink screens means I didn't really have a choice to comfortably get a smaller device. I'd have to scroll around to see a full page making it nearly unusable since most of the pdfs I read have a two column format or other unusual non-reflowable layouts.
It also doesn't hurt that the Boox has a fully-fledged Android OS, unlike the more locked down Kindle and Kobo devices.
And it appears easy to side-load everything without any networking, so I don't have to worry about it packet sniffing, live streaming everything I ever do to Xi Jinping, constantly auto-updating, and other bullshit like that.
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 3 years ago, 3 hours later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,397
ITT: OP ships for his next expensive paperweight.
Green !StaYqkzUPc joined in and replied with this 3 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,399
Real books.
Anonymous E replied with this 3 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,400
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC joined in and replied with this 3 years ago, 25 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,402
I read stuff digitally CONSTANTLY and I haven't really seen a refresh rate problem on a kindle or cellphone. Will you please explain the issue?
Anonymous E replied with this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,404
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
OP doesn't know what he's talking about, as usual... refresh rates on eInk have been very good for a long time now. Good enough to watch youtube on, even
OP doesn't know what he's talking about, as usual... refresh rates on eInk have been very good for a long time now. Good enough to watch youtube on, even
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Anonymous G replied with this 3 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,405
@1,180,402 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)"The refresh rate is way too low for this stationary black and white image of only letters!"
~OP
Anonymous E replied with this 3 years ago, 13 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,408
@previous (G)
But anonymous G, he could have to move the page up to FoUR TiMeS to read the double columns of text! He might experience 0.2 seconds of agony (AGONY!!!) per PDF page while waiting for it to appear clearly again!!
But anonymous G, he could have to move the page up to FoUR TiMeS to read the double columns of text! He might experience 0.2 seconds of agony (AGONY!!!) per PDF page while waiting for it to appear clearly again!!
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Anonymous G replied with this 3 years ago, 10 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,409
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 3 hours later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,452
@1,180,402 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Does your cellphone have e-ink? Are you using pdfs with fixed formatting, zooming in and scrolling around on your kindle?
Does your cellphone have e-ink? Are you using pdfs with fixed formatting, zooming in and scrolling around on your kindle?
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 3 years ago, 36 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,453
Anonymous A (OP) triple-posted this 3 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,455
@1,180,408 (E)
Not everything is read like a novel. With some texts you need to constantly refer back to earlier statements, equations, or figures. That would be very painful to do if you have to be constantly zoomed in and be panning around to just quickly glance at a different part of the same page.
Not everything is read like a novel. With some texts you need to constantly refer back to earlier statements, equations, or figures. That would be very painful to do if you have to be constantly zoomed in and be panning around to just quickly glance at a different part of the same page.
Anonymous A (OP) quadruple-posted this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,456
@1,180,405 (G)
The scrolling on these suck. There's a reason why kindle's reflow all the text and don't use fixed formatting. Not possible with a pdf.
The scrolling on these suck. There's a reason why kindle's reflow all the text and don't use fixed formatting. Not possible with a pdf.
Anonymous E replied with this 3 years ago, 53 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,476
@1,180,453 (A)
Which part isn't true?
@previous (A)
Scrolling is fine on eInk displays... you can even watch video!
Which part isn't true?
@previous (A)
Scrolling is fine on eInk displays... you can even watch video!
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 6 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,480
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Anonymous G replied with this 3 years ago, 5 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,484
@1,180,480 (A)
Did you know Blu-Rays play at a refresh rate of 24Hz on the PS3? Somehow, you're able to watch movies in 1080P just fine that way. 🤔🤔🤔
Did you know Blu-Rays play at a refresh rate of 24Hz on the PS3? Somehow, you're able to watch movies in 1080P just fine that way. 🤔🤔🤔
Anonymous E replied with this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,485
@1,180,480 (A)
You spent $370 on an electronic device without knowing that it can scroll and display videos? Your "doesn't understand eInk" shtick makes you look retarded as fuck, dawg
You spent $370 on an electronic device without knowing that it can scroll and display videos? Your "doesn't understand eInk" shtick makes you look retarded as fuck, dawg
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 5 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,490
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Gentle Giant !HOZlQYR1MY (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,501
@1,180,497 (G)
@previous (K)
If there's any room for regret, it would be that I didn't get one of the 13 inch monsters for maximal eye comfort and convenience.
@previous (K)
If there's any room for regret, it would be that I didn't get one of the 13 inch monsters for maximal eye comfort and convenience.
Anonymous J replied with this 3 years ago, 1 hour later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,516
@previous (Gentle Giant !HOZlQYR1MY)
You mean the 13.3" 'Boox Mira' eInk display that is capable of displaying 4K video??? As seen in this video review: https://youtu.be/xFEiqJzi32U?t=2799
You mean the 13.3" 'Boox Mira' eInk display that is capable of displaying 4K video??? As seen in this video review: https://youtu.be/xFEiqJzi32U?t=2799
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 1 hour later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,547
Anonymous E replied with this 3 years ago, 5 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,554
@previous (A)
What are you talking about? How fast do you need to flip between columns of text?? It's good enough to play youtube videos, for goodness sake!
What are you talking about? How fast do you need to flip between columns of text?? It's good enough to play youtube videos, for goodness sake!
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 4 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,555
@previous (E)
Are you blind? There's ghosting all over. Sure, I could read ANYTHING with a 2 inch screen. But it will be a huge pain in the ass. AND now you tell me I should not only be happy with constantly scrolling around but also have to deal with ghosting and noticeable lag? Sorry. No. I will not. Life is too short and the money is too little to justify that.
Are you blind? There's ghosting all over. Sure, I could read ANYTHING with a 2 inch screen. But it will be a huge pain in the ass. AND now you tell me I should not only be happy with constantly scrolling around but also have to deal with ghosting and noticeable lag? Sorry. No. I will not. Life is too short and the money is too little to justify that.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,558
Just use a telegraph they said. Who needs to see more than one letter at a time? It's good enough to send 4K videos over a telegraph line for goodness sake!
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 3 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,561
I still use my old 4th gen kindle that I bought in 2010 and I love it. You can find the same model used on ebay for like $30. There are some downsides but for basic use it's still a great device for anyone who doesn't want to spend $300 to read books.Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,566
@previous (L)
If you are just reading novels and other documents with minimal formatting and reflowable text, I agree this is the preferred choice.
If you are just reading novels and other documents with minimal formatting and reflowable text, I agree this is the preferred choice.
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,568
@1,180,456 (A)
> The scrolling on these suck. There's a reason why kindle's reflow all the text and don't use fixed formatting. Not possible with a pdf.
The Boox is big enough you just flip entire pages. Unless you read a hell of a lot faster than I do it's not something you need .01 second refresh rates for. The whole point of e-paper is to display static text and images in a manner reminiscent of dead tree paper.
> The scrolling on these suck. There's a reason why kindle's reflow all the text and don't use fixed formatting. Not possible with a pdf.
The Boox is big enough you just flip entire pages. Unless you read a hell of a lot faster than I do it's not something you need .01 second refresh rates for. The whole point of e-paper is to display static text and images in a manner reminiscent of dead tree paper.
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 12 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,573
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
I thought it was clear that is the primary reason of getting a large screen, so you don't have to worry about scrolling and the crappy screen updates, ghosting and latency. Is this not what you've been saying? Why are you then clarifying as if that's not also what I've been saying?
To everyone that's been arguing with me about this, try this: find a two column book or document, preferably one with many equations and complicated figures. Zoom in to 500% and stand back from your monitor so the screen takes up the same amount of visual angle as a 6 inch screen would be at normal viewing distance. Now try to scroll around and read the document. Tell me how enjoyable that is for you. Now imagine that your monitor has ghosts and lags noticeably. Thanks.
I thought it was clear that is the primary reason of getting a large screen, so you don't have to worry about scrolling and the crappy screen updates, ghosting and latency. Is this not what you've been saying? Why are you then clarifying as if that's not also what I've been saying?
To everyone that's been arguing with me about this, try this: find a two column book or document, preferably one with many equations and complicated figures. Zoom in to 500% and stand back from your monitor so the screen takes up the same amount of visual angle as a 6 inch screen would be at normal viewing distance. Now try to scroll around and read the document. Tell me how enjoyable that is for you. Now imagine that your monitor has ghosts and lags noticeably. Thanks.
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,574
Anonymous J replied with this 3 years ago, 31 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,575
@1,180,568 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
He's just being an idiot. You can go fast for video and have some ghosting or go a bit slower and have super crisp video, but its still absolutely fast enough to consume video content. No idea where he got the idiotic and FALSE idea that eInk can't refresh fast enough to move down a page to read a zoomed in column of text...
@1,180,555 (A)
I see a perfectly legible video playing on an eInk display... your're' the blind idiot, not I
He's just being an idiot. You can go fast for video and have some ghosting or go a bit slower and have super crisp video, but its still absolutely fast enough to consume video content. No idea where he got the idiotic and FALSE idea that eInk can't refresh fast enough to move down a page to read a zoomed in column of text...
@1,180,555 (A)
I see a perfectly legible video playing on an eInk display... your're' the blind idiot, not I
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 36 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,577
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,578
@1,180,575 (J)
You must have low standards on the responsiveness and visual fidelity that you expect from your devices.
You must have low standards on the responsiveness and visual fidelity that you expect from your devices.
Anonymous J replied with this 3 years ago, 22 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,579
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,585
@1,180,579 (J)
Literally the video you just posted here shows that they are. There are ghosts all over as well, even with the settings that were chosen.
Literally the video you just posted here shows that they are. There are ghosts all over as well, even with the settings that were chosen.
Anonymous J replied with this 3 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,591
@previous (A)
You can have ghosting or you can play video slower, what's your point? It looks fine, either way. Definitely good enough to scroll down a page, you moron
You can have ghosting or you can play video slower, what's your point? It looks fine, either way. Definitely good enough to scroll down a page, you moron
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Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 3 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,592
@1,180,577 (A)
Then buy a Brother laser printer and just print them out. I don't know what to tell you man.
Then buy a Brother laser printer and just print them out. I don't know what to tell you man.
The Winefather (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 4 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,594
@1,180,591 (J)
A) I don't want to view an A4 page from the view of a 6 inch screen. Either I'm going to have to use a fucking microscope to see the page or I'm going to have to be constantly scrolling around trying to find the last figure, page, or statement that some paragraph half a page away references.
B) The fact that e-ink has not so great refresh rates and ghosting only compounds this problem.
EVEN if B was not a problem, I'd still opt for a larger screen. If you want to waste your entire life endlessly, obsessively scrolling around, then to each their own.
A) I don't want to view an A4 page from the view of a 6 inch screen. Either I'm going to have to use a fucking microscope to see the page or I'm going to have to be constantly scrolling around trying to find the last figure, page, or statement that some paragraph half a page away references.
B) The fact that e-ink has not so great refresh rates and ghosting only compounds this problem.
EVEN if B was not a problem, I'd still opt for a larger screen. If you want to waste your entire life endlessly, obsessively scrolling around, then to each their own.
The Winefather (OP) double-posted this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,595
@1,180,592 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
What problem, precisely, are you trying to solve? It seems the Onyx Boox Note Air has already checked all these boxes.
What problem, precisely, are you trying to solve? It seems the Onyx Boox Note Air has already checked all these boxes.
Anonymous J replied with this 3 years ago, 4 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,600
@1,180,594 (The Winefather)
How often are you scrolling the fucking page, mate? Certainly not constantly, but even if you were it still wouldn't be a ghosted mess
How often are you scrolling the fucking page, mate? Certainly not constantly, but even if you were it still wouldn't be a ghosted mess
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,601
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Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 3 years ago, 31 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,603
@1,180,594 (The Winefather)
> muh 6 inch screens :(
Get some fucking reading glasses so you don't have to zoom so much gramps 😂
> muh 6 inch screens :(
Get some fucking reading glasses so you don't have to zoom so much gramps 😂
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 35 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,604
@1,180,600 (J)
It depends on what I'm reading. If what I'm reading is very equation or figure heavy, then almost every time one of this is mentioned, you can bet I'll need to go back and look at it to remind myself. Sometimes this can happen several times per paragraph, others, never in the entire document. So, yes, if I can only see the size of a fucking postage stamp, you can bet I'll be scrolling a lot. Not so if I can comfortably see the page all at once.
It depends on what I'm reading. If what I'm reading is very equation or figure heavy, then almost every time one of this is mentioned, you can bet I'll need to go back and look at it to remind myself. Sometimes this can happen several times per paragraph, others, never in the entire document. So, yes, if I can only see the size of a fucking postage stamp, you can bet I'll be scrolling a lot. Not so if I can comfortably see the page all at once.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 3 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,606
@1,180,603 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
Just throw out your monitor and use your head to infer what a book or article says so you don't have to be constantly reading so much, idiot.
Just throw out your monitor and use your head to infer what a book or article says so you don't have to be constantly reading so much, idiot.
Anonymous J replied with this 3 years ago, 9 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,622
@1,180,604 (A)
This isn't an issue with the refresh rate, though. Did you fall through a timewarp from 20 years ago? You can just admit that you have fatfuck sausage fingers and hate having to use them on delicate technology, you know
This isn't an issue with the refresh rate, though. Did you fall through a timewarp from 20 years ago? You can just admit that you have fatfuck sausage fingers and hate having to use them on delicate technology, you know
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Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 3 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,624
@1,180,606 (A)
I'm not the senile old faggot who can't read more than two words at a time on a six inch screen 😂
I'm not the senile old faggot who can't read more than two words at a time on a six inch screen 😂
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 19 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,625
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,626
@previous (A)
I feel like I'm misunderstanding the issue. It's that the screen isn't big enough and also the pages turn too slow?
I feel like I'm misunderstanding the issue. It's that the screen isn't big enough and also the pages turn too slow?
Anonymous J replied with this 3 years ago, 3 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,627
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,628
@1,180,624 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
Just cut your electric and infer what types of signals and responses you would've seen here. What type of fat fucking loser wouldn't be able to guess without seeing, as you were able to in topic 30212. Don't bother looking it up, you'd have to be senile to not remember precisely what it contains word-for-word.
Just cut your electric and infer what types of signals and responses you would've seen here. What type of fat fucking loser wouldn't be able to guess without seeing, as you were able to in topic 30212. Don't bother looking it up, you'd have to be senile to not remember precisely what it contains word-for-word.
Anonymous J replied with this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,629
@1,180,626 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> I feel like I'm misunderstanding the issue. It's that the screen isn't big enough and also the pages turn too slow?
He think that THIS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8DnD9Kdhk8 is too slow to render a page each time he accidentally scrolls down the screen with his sausage fingers
> I feel like I'm misunderstanding the issue. It's that the screen isn't big enough and also the pages turn too slow?
He think that THIS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8DnD9Kdhk8 is too slow to render a page each time he accidentally scrolls down the screen with his sausage fingers
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 38 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,630
@1,180,626 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
The main problem is the screen isn't big enough. This is made worse because the screen updating is poor, so you have to scroll around, side to side, up and down all the time with tons of lag and artifacts everywhere.
If you can see the whole page at once, it isn't a huge problem because it only needs to update every page turn, which will presumably be less frequent.
The main problem is the screen isn't big enough. This is made worse because the screen updating is poor, so you have to scroll around, side to side, up and down all the time with tons of lag and artifacts everywhere.
If you can see the whole page at once, it isn't a huge problem because it only needs to update every page turn, which will presumably be less frequent.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,631
@1,180,629 (J)
The screen updating is only part of the problem, you fucking idiot. Even if the screen updated instantaneously it would be a huge pain in the ass to scroll around all the time, unless you have absolutely no life.
The screen updating is only part of the problem, you fucking idiot. Even if the screen updated instantaneously it would be a huge pain in the ass to scroll around all the time, unless you have absolutely no life.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 3 years ago, 42 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,632
Anonymous J replied with this 3 years ago, 23 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,634
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 3 years ago, 22 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,636
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 3 years ago, 34 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,638
I read all of my true crime pdfs on my Thomas the Tank engine smart watch while I'm on the toilet. It works well
Anonymous J replied with this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,640
@1,180,630 (A)
> The main problem is the screen isn't big enough.
Says you
> This is made worse because the screen updating is poor
It's not
> so you have to scroll around, side to side, up and down all the time
You don't
> with tons of lag and artifacts everywhere.
False
> If you can see the whole page at once, it isn't a huge problem because it only needs to update every page turn, which will presumably be less frequent.
See my video of turning the page constantly for one and a half minutes... its not a problem
> The main problem is the screen isn't big enough.
Says you
> This is made worse because the screen updating is poor
It's not
> so you have to scroll around, side to side, up and down all the time
You don't
> with tons of lag and artifacts everywhere.
False
> If you can see the whole page at once, it isn't a huge problem because it only needs to update every page turn, which will presumably be less frequent.
See my video of turning the page constantly for one and a half minutes... its not a problem
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 41 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,641
@1,180,632 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
It really depends on the layout of the pdf which is set in stone in the file, unlike more ebook-friendly formats that lets the text flow seamlessly into a new page.
If you can read an A4 page at nearly half the size, then good for you. If not, then you might be signing up for a lot of scrolling around if you ever need to look back at a figure or equation mentioned earlier on the page or in a different column of text.
It really depends on the layout of the pdf which is set in stone in the file, unlike more ebook-friendly formats that lets the text flow seamlessly into a new page.
If you can read an A4 page at nearly half the size, then good for you. If not, then you might be signing up for a lot of scrolling around if you ever need to look back at a figure or equation mentioned earlier on the page or in a different column of text.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 3 years ago, 35 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,643
Anonymous A (OP) triple-posted this 3 years ago, 29 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,644
Anonymous A (OP) quadruple-posted this 3 years ago, 59 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,646
@1,180,640 (J)
> > The main problem is the screen isn't big enough.
>
> Says you
If you can read an A4 page at nearly half the size, then good for you. If not, then you might be signing up for a lot of scrolling around if you ever need to look back at a figure or equation mentioned earlier on the page or in a different column of text.
>
> > This is made worse because the screen updating is poor
>
> It's not
It is.
>
> >so you have to scroll around, side to side, up and down all the time
>
> You don't
You do.
>
>
> > with tons of lag and artifacts everywhere.
>
> False
True.
>
> > If you can see the whole page at once, it isn't a huge problem because it only needs to update every page turn, which will presumably be less frequent.
>
> See my video of turning the page constantly for one and a half minutes... its not a problem
It is a problem.
> > The main problem is the screen isn't big enough.
>
> Says you
If you can read an A4 page at nearly half the size, then good for you. If not, then you might be signing up for a lot of scrolling around if you ever need to look back at a figure or equation mentioned earlier on the page or in a different column of text.
>
> > This is made worse because the screen updating is poor
>
> It's not
It is.
>
> >so you have to scroll around, side to side, up and down all the time
>
> You don't
You do.
>
>
> > with tons of lag and artifacts everywhere.
>
> False
True.
>
> > If you can see the whole page at once, it isn't a huge problem because it only needs to update every page turn, which will presumably be less frequent.
>
> See my video of turning the page constantly for one and a half minutes... its not a problem
It is a problem.
Anonymous J replied with this 3 years ago, 43 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,648
@1,180,644 (A)
Sounds like a problem only you have. 8 inches should be large enough for most non-idiots.
Sounds like a problem only you have. 8 inches should be large enough for most non-idiots.
Anonymous J double-posted this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,650
Everything you have written is patently false, and your understanding of eInk technology seems to be from before 2005
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,651
@1,180,648 (J)
You can read a book with a 2 inch screen. But some of us have lives. Go outside and touch some grass.
You can read a book with a 2 inch screen. But some of us have lives. Go outside and touch some grass.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 3 years ago, 16 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,652
Anonymous J replied with this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,655
@1,180,651 (A)
I thought we were talking about media-rich PDF books, like the one I showed in my video. Are we not??
I thought we were talking about media-rich PDF books, like the one I showed in my video. Are we not??
Anonymous J double-posted this 3 years ago, 49 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,657
@1,180,652 (A)
You've already displayed your complete misunderstanding of the technology... keep digging that hole
You've already displayed your complete misunderstanding of the technology... keep digging that hole
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 3 years ago, 50 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,658
@1,180,641 (A)
> If you can read an A4 page at nearly half the size
Odd way of saying "A5", but go ahead.
> If you can read an A4 page at nearly half the size
Odd way of saying "A5", but go ahead.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 3 years ago, 17 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,665
Apple is coming out with a new e ink reader next quarter, Matt
https://youtu.be/1euzkxC7oEE
https://youtu.be/1euzkxC7oEE
(Edited 15 seconds later.)
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 56 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,668
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@1,180,665 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
You see Matt everywhere. Touch grass. Maybe if you had a real e-reader, you could.
You see Matt everywhere. Touch grass. Maybe if you had a real e-reader, you could.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 3 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,671
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 53 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,677
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Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 3 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,679
@1,180,677 (A)
I made a joke about a Thomas the Tank Engine watch. I didn't know you would think I was serious
Also we made you that nice video of an ereader refreshing smoothly. You didn't like it?
I made a joke about a Thomas the Tank Engine watch. I didn't know you would think I was serious
Also we made you that nice video of an ereader refreshing smoothly. You didn't like it?
Anonymous E replied with this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,682
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,684
@1,180,679 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
1) There's tons of ghosting and flickering on every page flip.
2) The video shows a relaxed format pdf, with already large font, meaning the entire page can be shown comfortably at once without zooming in.
3) IF you did have to scroll around to view a single page, the flickering and scrolling would probably look nearly if not just as bad as the page flips.
4) Get that GED.
1) There's tons of ghosting and flickering on every page flip.
2) The video shows a relaxed format pdf, with already large font, meaning the entire page can be shown comfortably at once without zooming in.
3) IF you did have to scroll around to view a single page, the flickering and scrolling would probably look nearly if not just as bad as the page flips.
4) Get that GED.
Anonymous E replied with this 3 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,685
@previous (A)
1) you don't seem to understand what those terms mean
2) it was media rich book 📚 in PDF format with full page images, tables, etc
3) This is a software issue, not an problem inherent to eInk displays, even cheap eInk screens can be driven to display beautiful rich images quickly and cleanly
4) fuck off retard
1) you don't seem to understand what those terms mean
2) it was media rich book 📚 in PDF format with full page images, tables, etc
3) This is a software issue, not an problem inherent to eInk displays, even cheap eInk screens can be driven to display beautiful rich images quickly and cleanly
4) fuck off retard
(Edited 3 minutes later.)
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 3 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,687
@1,180,684 (A)
It was a cheap ass e ink reader and it still did well
You don't need any better and honestly don't deserve it
If I could, I would force you to read scrolls by lamp light before getting sodomized by Pliny the Elder
Your GED still doesn't grant you any poonacka
It was a cheap ass e ink reader and it still did well
You don't need any better and honestly don't deserve it
If I could, I would force you to read scrolls by lamp light before getting sodomized by Pliny the Elder
Your GED still doesn't grant you any poonacka
(Edited 7 seconds later.)
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 38 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,688
@1,180,685 (E)
1) I do, and even if I didn't, you know what I mean.
2) Many of the documents I read can NOT be comfortably shown within a 6 inch space. Whatever the fuck kook showed in the video bears nothing on this fact.
3) Incorrect.
4) GED. Go outside and get it.
1) I do, and even if I didn't, you know what I mean.
2) Many of the documents I read can NOT be comfortably shown within a 6 inch space. Whatever the fuck kook showed in the video bears nothing on this fact.
3) Incorrect.
4) GED. Go outside and get it.
Anonymous E replied with this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,689
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 17 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,690
@1,180,687 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
You do NOT deserve a Tesla or even a tenth of what you own. The world is a horrible place and you are a breathing example of thatf act.
You do NOT deserve a Tesla or even a tenth of what you own. The world is a horrible place and you are a breathing example of thatf act.
Anonymous E replied with this 3 years ago, 46 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,691
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Anonymous E replied with this 3 years ago, 4 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,694
@previous (A)
She is none of those of those terrible things. You however, are a sad, jealous old man who will die alone. Maybe God will be merciful and let you choke to death on your selection of $30 wine tonight
She is none of those of those terrible things. You however, are a sad, jealous old man who will die alone. Maybe God will be merciful and let you choke to death on your selection of $30 wine tonight
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,698
@1,180,696 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Were was I rude? I've calmly and pleasantly responded to everything you've said and you only respond with insults and hate.
Were was I rude? I've calmly and pleasantly responded to everything you've said and you only respond with insults and hate.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 3 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,699
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 39 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,708
@1,180,701 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
So you made an obsessive post, seeing Matt everywhere, and decided to take offense when I pointed this out?
So you made an obsessive post, seeing Matt everywhere, and decided to take offense when I pointed this out?
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,709
shelly replied with this 3 years ago, 7 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,180,713
@previous (A)
> I miss the old days before you became so hateful and Autistic.
i would say the same but you have always been this way 💖
> I miss the old days before you became so hateful and Autistic.
i would say the same but you have always been this way 💖