Topic: Trump and Tucker Carlson take Putin’s side
Anonymous A started this discussion 4 years ago #102,487
I fucking despise them and anyone who fucking supports them. If you like Trump then I fucking hate you. Fucking civilians are being killed.
Putin Lover Pete joined in and replied with this 4 years ago, 31 seconds later[^] [v] #1,157,953
Putin is a smart cookie!
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 4 years ago, 15 seconds later, 46 seconds after the original post[^] [v] #1,157,954
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 4 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 minute after the original post[^] [v] #1,157,956
@OP
I hope you die in a Russian airstrike.
I hope you die in a Russian airstrike.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 4 years ago, 22 minutes later, 24 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,157,961
Anonymous C replied with this 4 years ago, 21 minutes later, 45 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,157,963
@previous (A)
I hope you and your entire family are tortured and your dead relatives exhumed and paraded around Moscow before being burned in the city centre.
I hope you and your entire family are tortured and your dead relatives exhumed and paraded around Moscow before being burned in the city centre.
Meta !Sober//iZs joined in and replied with this 4 years ago, 22 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,157,964
You were this outraged when the United States killed civilians, right? 🤔
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 4 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,157,966
🤔 replied with this 4 years ago, 36 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,157,967
Anonymous E replied with this 4 years ago, 5 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,157,968
@1,157,963 (C)
I hope everyone you love is raped, dismembered alive, then cannibalized alive on Russian national television, while Putin masturbates then cums all over their bodies, and you are tied up and forced to watch while wild Russian wolves eat your dick off.
I hope everyone you love is raped, dismembered alive, then cannibalized alive on Russian national television, while Putin masturbates then cums all over their bodies, and you are tied up and forced to watch while wild Russian wolves eat your dick off.
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Anonymous C replied with this 4 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,157,970
@previous (E)
I hope the KGB stalks, doxes, and harasses your family for the next 25 years. After which, I hope you and everyone you've ever loved gets COVID, dies, and is resuscitated in order to re-create the human centipede. While on life support, you will then be forced to apologise for every lie you've ever told and to everyone you or your family have ever defrauded, including the state from whence you came. Then, each of your finger and toe nails will be removed, your tongue stripped out, and your eyes gouged. I hope, then, Putin will give you the five finger salute as you're strapped onto an ICBM headed straight to your homeland.
I hope the KGB stalks, doxes, and harasses your family for the next 25 years. After which, I hope you and everyone you've ever loved gets COVID, dies, and is resuscitated in order to re-create the human centipede. While on life support, you will then be forced to apologise for every lie you've ever told and to everyone you or your family have ever defrauded, including the state from whence you came. Then, each of your finger and toe nails will be removed, your tongue stripped out, and your eyes gouged. I hope, then, Putin will give you the five finger salute as you're strapped onto an ICBM headed straight to your homeland.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 4 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,157,972
@1,157,968 (E)
@previous (C)
OK Show me your Right Wingnut source of information about Trump vs Putin. You don't like my source so show my your source. I just looked at Newsmax and got this
Trump Praises Putin, Leaving Republicans in a Bind
G.O.P. leaders, while condemning Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, were silent on comments made by the former president. Some figures on the right amplified them.
Some kind of RightWingNut conference going on currently and they seem at odds with what to say about their Fired Leader, who was so horribly whipped by Biden as you of course will never forget.
I figure that when Trump says anything you all Rubber Stamp it and March in direct orders.
@previous (C)
OK Show me your Right Wingnut source of information about Trump vs Putin. You don't like my source so show my your source. I just looked at Newsmax and got this
Trump Praises Putin, Leaving Republicans in a Bind
G.O.P. leaders, while condemning Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, were silent on comments made by the former president. Some figures on the right amplified them.
Some kind of RightWingNut conference going on currently and they seem at odds with what to say about their Fired Leader, who was so horribly whipped by Biden as you of course will never forget.
I figure that when Trump says anything you all Rubber Stamp it and March in direct orders.
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 4 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,157,976
Queers.
Anonymous E replied with this 4 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,157,979
@1,157,970 (C)I hope that you live the next ten years in perfect bliss, marrying your dream woman and having ten beautiful, perfect little angel children. I hope you are living in pure joy, love, and bliss. Then, one day, I hope Putin himself enters your house and kidnaps you and your entire family, then takes them to Moscow. I hope he then puts you all on a Russian national comedy TV show entitled аристократы. I hope he then, on live, worldwide television, has 100 fat, dirty, hairy Russian soldiers rape your wife and impregnate her while you are tied up and forced to watch. I hope Putin and Lynne Goldstein give your children the ancient Chinese punishment "death by a thousand cuts" as they simultaneously rape and cannibalize them alive. I then hope Puthin himself completely flays your entire family, including you, then sprays rubbing alcohol all over you and cuts all over you. I hope he then makes a trained, Russian circus bear rape you all in the ass, then I hope he subjects you all to scaphism, all on global television. I hope, the second you all die in agony, that he laughs maniacally.
Anonymous C replied with this 4 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,157,987
@previous (E)
lol you take every chance you can get to post cuck fetishes.
By the way, who is "Lynne Goldstein"?
lol you take every chance you can get to post cuck fetishes.
By the way, who is "Lynne Goldstein"?
Anonymous F replied with this 4 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,157,989
@previous (C)
He used to hangout at my website. He posted to me there just about every day since Mickie passed away. It's why when I hadn't heard from him for a few weeks I went to check out his facebook page and found out he had passed away. :(
I only spend time on facebook because I have a couple of high school friends there. It is the only way I can keep in touch with them. If it wasn't for my other friends, I wouldn't be there either. In fact, I spent next to no time there while Mickie was around since she kept in touch with everyone for both of us.
I was trying to think of a new name to register at facebook, and Mugwump suggested "Mike Hunt". Obviously he'd seen the Porky's movies. lol
He used to hangout at my website. He posted to me there just about every day since Mickie passed away. It's why when I hadn't heard from him for a few weeks I went to check out his facebook page and found out he had passed away. :(
I only spend time on facebook because I have a couple of high school friends there. It is the only way I can keep in touch with them. If it wasn't for my other friends, I wouldn't be there either. In fact, I spent next to no time there while Mickie was around since she kept in touch with everyone for both of us.
I was trying to think of a new name to register at facebook, and Mugwump suggested "Mike Hunt". Obviously he'd seen the Porky's movies. lol
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 4 years ago, 15 hours later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,158,065
@OP
> I fucking despise them and anyone who fucking supports them. If you like Trump then I fucking hate you. Fucking civilians are being killed.
We've been through this. They are not taking Putin's side. Calm down and stop being so gullible.
> I fucking despise them and anyone who fucking supports them. If you like Trump then I fucking hate you. Fucking civilians are being killed.
We've been through this. They are not taking Putin's side. Calm down and stop being so gullible.
Dead !Pool..v42s joined in and replied with this 4 years ago, 1 hour later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,158,110
@previous (H)
Well, some of them literally have said they like his Christian values. But not every right winger is crazy
Well, some of them literally have said they like his Christian values. But not every right winger is crazy
Anonymous H replied with this 4 years ago, 49 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,158,130
@previous (Dead !Pool..v42s)
I'm talking about Trump and Carlson specifically, not their loony supporters (I agree - many of them are loathsome and they get things just as twisted as their detractors).
I'm talking about Trump and Carlson specifically, not their loony supporters (I agree - many of them are loathsome and they get things just as twisted as their detractors).
Anonymous E replied with this 4 years ago, 11 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,158,137
Anonymous H replied with this 4 years ago, 3 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,158,138
@previous (E)
Yes, he did. So fucking what? To acknowledge that your enemy is an expert tactician is not the same as praising them or taking their side. How naive do you have to be to think this way?
Yes, he did. So fucking what? To acknowledge that your enemy is an expert tactician is not the same as praising them or taking their side. How naive do you have to be to think this way?
Anonymous E replied with this 4 years ago, 1 minute later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,158,139
Anonymous H replied with this 4 years ago, 4 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,158,144
@previous (E)
Again with the black & white thinking: Yes, because I point out what idiots the woke media are being, I must be a Trump worshiper. I can't possibly actually think he's a blithering idiot. No.
Again with the black & white thinking: Yes, because I point out what idiots the woke media are being, I must be a Trump worshiper. I can't possibly actually think he's a blithering idiot. No.
Dead !Pool..v42s replied with this 4 years ago, 12 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,158,151
@1,158,130 (H)
Fair enough. Although the lady I'm thinking of is running for office in some capacity
Fair enough. Although the lady I'm thinking of is running for office in some capacity
Dead !Pool..v42s double-posted this 4 years ago, 18 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,158,403
Lmao I watched the tucker Carlson video where he doesn't hate on Putin.
Lol at least Putin doesn't eat dog or call Tucker Carlson racist
Lol at least Putin doesn't eat dog or call Tucker Carlson racist
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 4 years ago, 14 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,158,406
@1,158,137 (E)
I think Pearl Harbor was brilliantly executed. That doesn't mean I like the Imperial Japanese Navy or that I worship the "yellow goblin" Hideki Tojo.
I think Joe Biden pulling out of Afghanistan was a genius move. Does that I mean I worship the "gray goblin"?
I think Pearl Harbor was brilliantly executed. That doesn't mean I like the Imperial Japanese Navy or that I worship the "yellow goblin" Hideki Tojo.
I think Joe Biden pulling out of Afghanistan was a genius move. Does that I mean I worship the "gray goblin"?
Anonymous C replied with this 4 years ago, 3 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,158,437
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 4 years ago, 18 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,158,442
@previous (C)
So how strongly will you condemn Xi Jinping and the People's Republic of China when they forcibly reunite with Formosa??? 🤔🤔🤔
So how strongly will you condemn Xi Jinping and the People's Republic of China when they forcibly reunite with Formosa??? 🤔🤔🤔
Anonymous C replied with this 4 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,158,444
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 4 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,158,445
Anonymous C replied with this 4 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,158,446
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
Because I don't recognise the actions of an unserious fraud/clone government and see no need to condemn their every action. Taiwan is the true government of China.
Because I don't recognise the actions of an unserious fraud/clone government and see no need to condemn their every action. Taiwan is the true government of China.
Anonymous F replied with this 4 years ago, 2 weeks later, 2 weeks after the original post[^] [v] #1,162,006
@1,158,139 (E)
> Go gaslight someone else and worship your orange goblin.
Coming very soon! They'll infiltrate your thoughts, your mind, your dreams, your soul! GOBLINS!
> Go gaslight someone else and worship your orange goblin.
Coming very soon! They'll infiltrate your thoughts, your mind, your dreams, your soul! GOBLINS!
dw !p9hU6ckyqw joined in and replied with this 4 years ago, 2 days later, 3 weeks after the original post[^] [v] #1,162,317
cccuuunnttt !.cATkimmOo joined in and replied with this 4 years ago, 35 minutes later, 3 weeks after the original post[^] [v] #1,162,318
This is a strange thread
Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE joined in and replied with this 4 years ago, 25 minutes later, 3 weeks after the original post[^] [v] #1,162,324
@previous (cccuuunnttt !.cATkimmOo)
Right so this won't be easy to do succinctly (this is an unimaginably complex situation that has been going on for almost a decade) so I'll break this into separate posts to make it more digestible. Bear in mind this is all just my opinion, but it's based on a broad knowledge of the history of this conflict.
First to your question about why Putin's done this at this particular moment. I think there are 4 main reasons. Firstly, yes, as someone said above, it is actually connected with Biden replacing Trump. Despite the depiction of him in some quarters as a deranged psychopath hell-bent on world domination, Putin is extremely risk averse. Since becoming president he has – so far -achieved his aims in all 4 of the wars in which he has participated (Chechnya, Georgia, Syria and Ukraine) and he's done that by being very calculated.
People who are risk averse don’t like situations or people that aren't predictable, and the fact of the matter is, Donald Trump was unpredictable. He was an unknown in too many respects. If we remove the idea that Russia had kompromat on him (something I don’t believe) then with his capricious and ego-centric character he was as likely to start bombing east Ukraine as suck up to Putin if he felt he was being made to look a loser.
Joe Biden on the other hand is the most predictable politician in America, simply because of how long he's been in the game. We have 50 years of his speeches, his policies, his bills, his votes, his donors, we know who's behind him, we know whose interests he represents, we know how he's likely to react to various geopolitical movements.
And so if we accept that the endlessly-threatened 'sanctions' will sooner or later be imposed regardless of what Putin does (something Putin believes), then it makes it much easier for Putin to do what he does best: risk assessment. Trump made risk assessment very difficult because he had no policies we could refer to, no principles, his speeches on geopolitical matters were often incoherent gibberish, and he clearly didn't understand anything that was going on in the world. One day the guy's ripping up the JCPOA on the grounds of 'the black guy who came before me authored it' and the next he's sucking up to Kim Jong-un. What both things had in common is they were driven by ego, not sensible and predictable policy, and Putin isn't going to make any major moves when the guy in the White House is that temperamentally unstable.
Right so this won't be easy to do succinctly (this is an unimaginably complex situation that has been going on for almost a decade) so I'll break this into separate posts to make it more digestible. Bear in mind this is all just my opinion, but it's based on a broad knowledge of the history of this conflict.
First to your question about why Putin's done this at this particular moment. I think there are 4 main reasons. Firstly, yes, as someone said above, it is actually connected with Biden replacing Trump. Despite the depiction of him in some quarters as a deranged psychopath hell-bent on world domination, Putin is extremely risk averse. Since becoming president he has – so far -achieved his aims in all 4 of the wars in which he has participated (Chechnya, Georgia, Syria and Ukraine) and he's done that by being very calculated.
People who are risk averse don’t like situations or people that aren't predictable, and the fact of the matter is, Donald Trump was unpredictable. He was an unknown in too many respects. If we remove the idea that Russia had kompromat on him (something I don’t believe) then with his capricious and ego-centric character he was as likely to start bombing east Ukraine as suck up to Putin if he felt he was being made to look a loser.
Joe Biden on the other hand is the most predictable politician in America, simply because of how long he's been in the game. We have 50 years of his speeches, his policies, his bills, his votes, his donors, we know who's behind him, we know whose interests he represents, we know how he's likely to react to various geopolitical movements.
And so if we accept that the endlessly-threatened 'sanctions' will sooner or later be imposed regardless of what Putin does (something Putin believes), then it makes it much easier for Putin to do what he does best: risk assessment. Trump made risk assessment very difficult because he had no policies we could refer to, no principles, his speeches on geopolitical matters were often incoherent gibberish, and he clearly didn't understand anything that was going on in the world. One day the guy's ripping up the JCPOA on the grounds of 'the black guy who came before me authored it' and the next he's sucking up to Kim Jong-un. What both things had in common is they were driven by ego, not sensible and predictable policy, and Putin isn't going to make any major moves when the guy in the White House is that temperamentally unstable.
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 4 years ago, 5 hours later, 3 weeks after the original post[^] [v] #1,162,337
@previous (Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE)
All Socialism is backed by a wealthy few.
It always has been. It attracts useful idiots,most of whom are either to lazy or to damned stupid to see beyond their envy and limitations.
They never realize until it's too late (if ever) that they were/are pawns. Most want what others have earned. An equality of outcome rather than an equality of opportunity and they invariably choose to surrender freedom for security and invariably end up with neither.
If there is even ONE exception to this, I am unaware of it and have never seen an example.
All Socialism is backed by a wealthy few.
It always has been. It attracts useful idiots,most of whom are either to lazy or to damned stupid to see beyond their envy and limitations.
They never realize until it's too late (if ever) that they were/are pawns. Most want what others have earned. An equality of outcome rather than an equality of opportunity and they invariably choose to surrender freedom for security and invariably end up with neither.
If there is even ONE exception to this, I am unaware of it and have never seen an example.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 4 years ago, 59 minutes later, 3 weeks after the original post[^] [v] #1,162,348
@previous (M)
But there is no equality of opportunity. Most people would be fine with that, but is sure does not exist.
But there is no equality of opportunity. Most people would be fine with that, but is sure does not exist.
Dead !Pool..v42s replied with this 4 years ago, 3 hours later, 3 weeks after the original post[^] [v] #1,162,374
Meritocracy is a lie
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 4 years ago, 27 minutes later, 3 weeks after the original post[^] [v] #1,162,390
It's nice that Vlad was able to make some American friends even though a lot of people are mad at him right now.
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