Topic: FAO MiniUKBrits what is this scandal with grades at schools or whatever about?
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU started this discussion 5 years ago #102,264
Thanks in advance.
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 47 minutes later[^] [v] #1,155,806
Because of Covid, students weren't able to complete their studies or do their exams. The relevant education body in England initially used algorithms (don't know the details) to assign grades rather than using teacher's predictions like in Scotland.
Students weren't satisfied with the grades the algorithm gave them, there were lots of appeal requests and protests, and last I heard they were successful and teacher predictions will now be used instead.
Students weren't satisfied with the grades the algorithm gave them, there were lots of appeal requests and protests, and last I heard they were successful and teacher predictions will now be used instead.
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Sheila LaBoof joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 44 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,155,830
aaaa school is all fake anyway fuck it
blom joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,155,848
@1,155,806 (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
The algorithm was based on a school's past performance and involved a significant amount of "downgrading" by ofqual. So you'd have students predicted an A getting graded as a U.
The algorithm was based on a school's past performance and involved a significant amount of "downgrading" by ofqual. So you'd have students predicted an A getting graded as a U.
Erik !jzYkdX7lIw joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 7 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,155,852
Its basically a grades grab by students and their teachers.
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,155,869
@1,155,848 (blom)
Right, yes. I should have pointed that out. The algorithm was genuinely quite bad, so the grievances over it were legitimate.
Right, yes. I should have pointed that out. The algorithm was genuinely quite bad, so the grievances over it were legitimate.
Erik !AltRitexT6 joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 41 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,155,874
> The scale of the challenge facing universities today. Over 100,000 English/NI/Welsh UCAS applicants may yet meet the conditions on their 'first choice' offer. Around 40,000, resulting from pending confirmations, would be a more typical figure for this point. Clearly this years students is a goldern generation and the global pandemic is a pure coincidence
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 34 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,155,880
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 7 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,155,882
@previous (G)
> What's a U?
A video that all the family can watch, like Pinocchio, the Lion King, or Nick Hancock's Best Football Bloopers.
> What's a U?
A video that all the family can watch, like Pinocchio, the Lion King, or Nick Hancock's Best Football Bloopers.
Meta !Sober//iZs joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 12 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,155,883
@1,155,880 (G)
If I'm understanding this right, this is involving scores on the GCSE which is the UK equivalent of a high school diploma.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Certificate_of_Secondary_Education#Letter_grades - U means "unclassified", a failing grade. So a bunch of kids got failed on their end of high school exams.
If I'm understanding this right, this is involving scores on the GCSE which is the UK equivalent of a high school diploma.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Certificate_of_Secondary_Education#Letter_grades - U means "unclassified", a failing grade. So a bunch of kids got failed on their end of high school exams.
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@1,155,883 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
Yeah, this. But it's GCSEs (which you take at 16) as well as A Levels (which you take before leaving): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GCE_Advanced_Level
A few such stories:
https://www.thestar.co.uk/education/penistone-level-student-shocked-u-grade-after-government-downgrading-2943451
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2020/aug/14/do-the-maths-why-englands-a-level-grading-system-is-unfair
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/politics/12389804/teachers-uproar-marked-down-a-levels/ (I know, I know)
Yeah, this. But it's GCSEs (which you take at 16) as well as A Levels (which you take before leaving): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GCE_Advanced_Level
A few such stories:
https://www.thestar.co.uk/education/penistone-level-student-shocked-u-grade-after-government-downgrading-2943451
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2020/aug/14/do-the-maths-why-englands-a-level-grading-system-is-unfair
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/politics/12389804/teachers-uproar-marked-down-a-levels/ (I know, I know)
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Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 5 years ago, 9 hours later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,156,011
@previous (tteh !MemesToDNA)
In Texas, the governor waived our high school exams (the STAAR test - State of Texas Assessment of Academic Readiness, passing grades are required for a high school diploma) for the 2019-20 school year so we didn't have this problem.
I left school at 15 and was home schooled until college so I wasn't required to take any exams.
In Texas, the governor waived our high school exams (the STAAR test - State of Texas Assessment of Academic Readiness, passing grades are required for a high school diploma) for the 2019-20 school year so we didn't have this problem.
I left school at 15 and was home schooled until college so I wasn't required to take any exams.
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 5 years ago, 2 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,156,015
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
What did you submit for grades for your college application? I always wondered what homeschoolers do for that.
What did you submit for grades for your college application? I always wondered what homeschoolers do for that.
blom replied with this 5 years ago, 22 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,156,022
Green !StaYqkzUPc joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 2 hours later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,156,085
I got an A in my RE GCSE!
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,156,109
@1,156,015 (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
How it works for home schoolers depends on which college you are applying to. I did my first two years at a community college and those are generally pretty permissive in admissions. For the one I went to, you could either take the SAT/ACT or the college had its own assessments to test if you had met the high school equivalent level. If you failed those, you could still enroll but you would have to take remedial classes. I did take the SAT and got pretty good scores and so that was sufficient for me to enroll in the college. I didn't submit any transcripts or grades from the home schooling program, just my SAT score. I got an associate's and then later a bachelor's degree.
I didn't have any difficulty at all getting jobs. Employers did not seem to mind one bit that I didn't have a "real" high school diploma, in fact one told me he saw it as a positive and better than public school.
I have to say though that the home school curriculum was pretty solid and definitely prepared me for college. The English, economics, math, and science classes were all at about freshman college level.
How it works for home schoolers depends on which college you are applying to. I did my first two years at a community college and those are generally pretty permissive in admissions. For the one I went to, you could either take the SAT/ACT or the college had its own assessments to test if you had met the high school equivalent level. If you failed those, you could still enroll but you would have to take remedial classes. I did take the SAT and got pretty good scores and so that was sufficient for me to enroll in the college. I didn't submit any transcripts or grades from the home schooling program, just my SAT score. I got an associate's and then later a bachelor's degree.
I didn't have any difficulty at all getting jobs. Employers did not seem to mind one bit that I didn't have a "real" high school diploma, in fact one told me he saw it as a positive and better than public school.
I have to say though that the home school curriculum was pretty solid and definitely prepared me for college. The English, economics, math, and science classes were all at about freshman college level.
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Anonymous G replied with this 5 years ago, 30 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,156,116
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
What did you major in?
I've never had an employer mention or even glance at my high school. I'm surprised they mentioned it to you, seeing as you had post-secondary education.
When i did homeschooling it was just online classes (you went in to write tests/exams) and the curricula were the same as normal schools. It was run by the same school board. For the most part it was fine but I remember I had one awful English teacher.
What did you major in?
I've never had an employer mention or even glance at my high school. I'm surprised they mentioned it to you, seeing as you had post-secondary education.
When i did homeschooling it was just online classes (you went in to write tests/exams) and the curricula were the same as normal schools. It was run by the same school board. For the most part it was fine but I remember I had one awful English teacher.
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 5 years ago, 3 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,156,208
@previous (G)
Oh I should clarify that the employers part was only for the years between high school and when I got my associate's degree. After college, my high school was never asked about or mentioned again obviously.
I majored in business administration.
My homeschooling was more old-school than that, all on paper. I did mine through Accelerated Christian Education (none of my family is Christian but as Christians are the majority of the homeschooling market, a lot of the stuff is aimed towards that demographic). I'm not sure how much the curriculum compares to regular public schools but my SAT score indicated that I learned more or less what a competent high school graduate would have learned.
Oh I should clarify that the employers part was only for the years between high school and when I got my associate's degree. After college, my high school was never asked about or mentioned again obviously.
I majored in business administration.
My homeschooling was more old-school than that, all on paper. I did mine through Accelerated Christian Education (none of my family is Christian but as Christians are the majority of the homeschooling market, a lot of the stuff is aimed towards that demographic). I'm not sure how much the curriculum compares to regular public schools but my SAT score indicated that I learned more or less what a competent high school graduate would have learned.
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 5 years ago, 5 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,156,275
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Omg this jrpg ass logoMeta !Sober//iZs replied with this 5 years ago, 5 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,156,348
@1,156,275 (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
You did have to take a few Bible and Christianity courses. I learned all about the history of Christianity in America, all the different movements, etc.
It was taught from a fundamentalist Christian POV. Despite that though, you do learn a lot of actual stuff in it. Overall I think it was a lot better than public school. My only regret is that I wasn't homeschooled earlier.
I would have liked a less Christian one (since I don't like Christianity) but in the very early '00s in America there wasn't much else going on in the homeschooling scene so yeah. It's no worse than the leftist bias that public schools have (I'm not a huge fan of leftism either).
You did have to take a few Bible and Christianity courses. I learned all about the history of Christianity in America, all the different movements, etc.
It was taught from a fundamentalist Christian POV. Despite that though, you do learn a lot of actual stuff in it. Overall I think it was a lot better than public school. My only regret is that I wasn't homeschooled earlier.
I would have liked a less Christian one (since I don't like Christianity) but in the very early '00s in America there wasn't much else going on in the homeschooling scene so yeah. It's no worse than the leftist bias that public schools have (I'm not a huge fan of leftism either).
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Sheila LaBoof replied with this 5 years ago, 10 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,156,352
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
> You did have to take a few Bible and Christianity courses. I learned all about the history of Christianity in America, all the different movements, etc.
>
> It was taught from a fundamentalist Christian POV. Despite that though, you do learn a lot of actual stuff in it. Overall I think it was a lot better than public school. My only regret is that I wasn't homeschooled earlier.
>
> I would have liked a less Christian one (since I don't like Christianity) but in the very early '00s in America there wasn't much else going on in the homeschooling scene so yeah. It's no worse than the leftist bias that public schools have (I'm not a huge fan of leftism either).
what's an example of leftist bias in a public school
supporting the rebels in Guatemala in the 1970s?
> You did have to take a few Bible and Christianity courses. I learned all about the history of Christianity in America, all the different movements, etc.
>
> It was taught from a fundamentalist Christian POV. Despite that though, you do learn a lot of actual stuff in it. Overall I think it was a lot better than public school. My only regret is that I wasn't homeschooled earlier.
>
> I would have liked a less Christian one (since I don't like Christianity) but in the very early '00s in America there wasn't much else going on in the homeschooling scene so yeah. It's no worse than the leftist bias that public schools have (I'm not a huge fan of leftism either).
what's an example of leftist bias in a public school
supporting the rebels in Guatemala in the 1970s?
blom replied with this 5 years ago, 31 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,156,362
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 5 years ago, 30 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,156,369
@previous (blom)
> Not saying the Lord's prayer and submitting to the will of the Great Bush
oh heavens
> Not saying the Lord's prayer and submitting to the will of the Great Bush
oh heavens
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,156,427
@1,156,348 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
> It was taught from a fundamentalist Christian POV.
The Bible and Christianity courses or all courses?
What are some examples of leftist bias in public schools?
> It was taught from a fundamentalist Christian POV.
The Bible and Christianity courses or all courses?
What are some examples of leftist bias in public schools?
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,156,486
having to share a glue stick? fucking commies