Anonymous A started this discussion 5 years ago#102,201
It seems like competitors like Samsung are now surpassing them. In a few years, could Apple be in hot water again like they were when Microsoft bailed them out?
Even when it comes to laptops, Apple users are switching to Google.
It appears Steve Jobs really was the spark which fueled the company’s innovation.
Bob !3GqYIJ3Obs joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 5 minutes later[^][v]#1,155,205
Apple Toys consists of two different companies. Smartphones with the associated hardware, and computers. I'm not a fan of either, but apparently their computer hardware is good, but costly. They also are reliable, due to paying extra for connectors, pcbs etc, and custom chips.
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 27 minutes later, 32 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,155,208
Catherine draad.
Meta !Sober//iZs joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 5 hours later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,155,245
Samsung's flagship phones have always been as good as Apple's. Nothing new there.
What do you mean "even when it comes to laptops they are switching to Google"? You mean like Chromebooks? The Chromebook Pixel line is the only one that really is in the same class as a MacBook. The rest are pretty cheap and aimed at either K-12 education or people who just want to look at cat memes on Facebook.
I don't see MacBook users switching to Chromebooks anytime soon. Apple has always marketed their computers as being good for creatives and you don't really get that with a Chromebook. No Photoshop, no video editing, no real office suite, no music creation, no coding... It's basically just a web browser.
> They also are reliable, due to paying extra for connectors, pcbs etc, and custom chips.
Apple has had (and continues to have) many hardware design problems with their computers. You have shit like butterfly keyboards that become unusable if they get the tiniest piece of dust in them, GPUs that fail, display cables not being long enough so the connection to the screen breaks, insufficient cooling so it overheats and fries itself. They are also much more difficult and expensive to repair than a PC.
I think one of the major things people forget is that Apple, even under Jobs, was a very conservative, cautious company. For anything they do, they are late to the party. iPhone wasn't the first smartphone - there were smartphones with Palm, Blackberry, and Windows Mobile years before iPhone. If you watch the iPod introduction video in 2001, Jobs actually spends several minutes talking about how it compares to other MP3 players of the era, which had been out for three years or so at that point. Smartwatches? No, those had been out for years as well before the Apple Watch. Fossil even had one out running Palm OS in 2003.
I don't think Apple is particularly innovative. They just have good design. And that's pretty much it.
Sheila LaBoof joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,155,270
I hate how they name their products with a letter i. It's like MS Windows when they named folders "my documents", "my music", and cloying shit like that. Also I hate how they make third party repair damn near illegal in much of the world.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 7 hours later, 15 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,155,433
@1,155,245 (Meta !Sober//iZs) > Not innovative > Good design
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