Topic: LOL Thigh-Land!!
Anonymous A started this discussion 5 years ago #101,942
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-thailand-trump/not-thigh-land-thais-amused-at-trumps-slip-idUSKCN2531FW
The stable genius strikes again!
The stable genius strikes again!
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 18 minutes later[^] [v] #1,151,909
You know what? This actually really supports Meta's point that plebs/the working class relate to/identify with Trump. Not in relation to his financial status or lived experiences. But because of gaffes like this. A lower-class American who went to public school may very well make the same mistake. When people laugh at it or attack it, they feel that other people look down on them. Boris Johnson operates similarly, as did, I gather, Bush Jr. They think of him as someone they'd get along with and with whom they'd like to have a beer. I see. Interesting.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 1 minute later, 19 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,151,910
@previous (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
But I do look down on them. If they have any intellectual curiosity at all, they can learn things online, read books, get a library card, ask people, etc. It's like they want to be ignorant, and are proud of it.
But I do look down on them. If they have any intellectual curiosity at all, they can learn things online, read books, get a library card, ask people, etc. It's like they want to be ignorant, and are proud of it.
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 5 years ago, 6 minutes later, 26 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,151,917
@previous (A)
Yes, I know, you are an elitist. But you have to realise that they may have knowledge in other areas that you do not. Not everyone has to be an intellectual. Would you think it fair for an HVAC technician to look down on you and think of you as a dumbfuck for not knowing much about HVAC systems?
Anyways that wasn't a defense or attack on anyone. Just an explanation of something I'd just thought of.
Yes, I know, you are an elitist. But you have to realise that they may have knowledge in other areas that you do not. Not everyone has to be an intellectual. Would you think it fair for an HVAC technician to look down on you and think of you as a dumbfuck for not knowing much about HVAC systems?
Anyways that wasn't a defense or attack on anyone. Just an explanation of something I'd just thought of.
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Kook !!rcSrAtaAC joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 2 minutes later, 28 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,151,923
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 43 seconds later, 29 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,151,924
@1,151,917 (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
Comparing expertise in a technical skill, like HVAC, that actually requires years of training, and knowing how to pronounce Thailand, are hardly on the same level. Note that I do not look down on them for, say, not being able to read Thai. But being able to pronounce Thailand is like knowing that air conditioning exists. False analogy.
Comparing expertise in a technical skill, like HVAC, that actually requires years of training, and knowing how to pronounce Thailand, are hardly on the same level. Note that I do not look down on them for, say, not being able to read Thai. But being able to pronounce Thailand is like knowing that air conditioning exists. False analogy.
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Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 5 years ago, 39 seconds later, 30 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,151,927
@1,151,923 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
How is it snobbish to think it is absurd for any modern American to not know how to pronounced a simple word, much less the president?
How is it snobbish to think it is absurd for any modern American to not know how to pronounced a simple word, much less the president?
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 4 minutes later, 34 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,151,931
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 5 years ago, 3 minutes later, 37 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,151,938
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 6 minutes later, 44 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,151,948
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
How is it snobbish to be educated and worldly? I only look down on people who could be educated, but proudly refuse. I do not look down on anyone who wants to be educated, but cannot be because of life circumstances. For example, I would never look down on, say, an impoverished Indian sharecropper for not knowing how to find Thailand on a map. I do, however, look down on a middle-class American who cannot find Thailand on a map, because that person could simply google a map.
How is it snobbish to be educated and worldly? I only look down on people who could be educated, but proudly refuse. I do not look down on anyone who wants to be educated, but cannot be because of life circumstances. For example, I would never look down on, say, an impoverished Indian sharecropper for not knowing how to find Thailand on a map. I do, however, look down on a middle-class American who cannot find Thailand on a map, because that person could simply google a map.
Anonymous D replied with this 5 years ago, 2 minutes later, 46 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,151,951
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 1 minute later, 48 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,151,953
@previous (D)
I am absolutely not! No one is beneath me in their human worth. But uneducated people are beneath the educated in the realm of education. this especially applies to people who could become educated, but choose rather to proudly remain in ignorance.
I am absolutely not! No one is beneath me in their human worth. But uneducated people are beneath the educated in the realm of education. this especially applies to people who could become educated, but choose rather to proudly remain in ignorance.
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 5 years ago, 54 seconds later, 48 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,151,954
@1,151,948 (A)
If they've never had reason to, why would they? Thailand has never come up in their lives. And you miss my point that they may very well have knowledge and expertise in other areas that you do not. But you look down on them for not having knowledge that they've never needed to have and have never been adversely affected for not having.
And Kook is right, you are snobbish about a variety of things.
If they've never had reason to, why would they? Thailand has never come up in their lives. And you miss my point that they may very well have knowledge and expertise in other areas that you do not. But you look down on them for not having knowledge that they've never needed to have and have never been adversely affected for not having.
And Kook is right, you are snobbish about a variety of things.
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 2 minutes later, 50 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,151,956
@previous (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
Because looking at education and knowledge simply as things that are 100% functional and utile ("needing" to know something), rather than the delights of intellectual curiosity, contradicts my understanding of education. I cannot imagine going through life ignoring everything except what I need to function in daily life. What about human wonder? What about the desire for knowledge, purely for the joy of knowing?
Because looking at education and knowledge simply as things that are 100% functional and utile ("needing" to know something), rather than the delights of intellectual curiosity, contradicts my understanding of education. I cannot imagine going through life ignoring everything except what I need to function in daily life. What about human wonder? What about the desire for knowledge, purely for the joy of knowing?
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 5 years ago, 5 minutes later, 56 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,151,958
@previous (A)
When you come home after a long day of hard work, you usually don't want to go study things you don't need to know that will likely never come up in your life. You want to switch off and relax. You're already exhausted. You may not have experienced this if you've never had a tough (not office) job, but many people do. Personally, I have to wait for the weekends to do my educational reading because I'm just dead tired after work during the week.
When you come home after a long day of hard work, you usually don't want to go study things you don't need to know that will likely never come up in your life. You want to switch off and relax. You're already exhausted. You may not have experienced this if you've never had a tough (not office) job, but many people do. Personally, I have to wait for the weekends to do my educational reading because I'm just dead tired after work during the week.
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Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,151,961
@OPeePee
I really don't get it. The guy was smart or rich enough or both to become president of the U.S. but I have heard him say some really uneducated things. I mean fuck, I believe it was 4th or 5th grade Geography when we learned Southeast Asia. Have no clue what Trump was doing during his Geography classes but he sure as the fuck wasn't paying attention would be my guess ha ha!
I really don't get it. The guy was smart or rich enough or both to become president of the U.S. but I have heard him say some really uneducated things. I mean fuck, I believe it was 4th or 5th grade Geography when we learned Southeast Asia. Have no clue what Trump was doing during his Geography classes but he sure as the fuck wasn't paying attention would be my guess ha ha!
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 5 years ago, 20 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,151,962
@1,151,956 (A)
And I feel this is also a factor. It's obvious that the people who look down on them haven't experienced that life of working so hard that it leaves them too exhausted for learning things they don't need to. They take pride in working so hard to support their families (as they should!). There's a real cultural disconnect and lack of understanding here. You can't even fathom living like that, and they look down on you for not knowing what "real hard work" is like, just as you look down on them for being "uneducated hicks".
And I feel this is also a factor. It's obvious that the people who look down on them haven't experienced that life of working so hard that it leaves them too exhausted for learning things they don't need to. They take pride in working so hard to support their families (as they should!). There's a real cultural disconnect and lack of understanding here. You can't even fathom living like that, and they look down on you for not knowing what "real hard work" is like, just as you look down on them for being "uneducated hicks".
Anonymous D replied with this 5 years ago, 9 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,151,963
@1,151,958 (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
Minorities and blue collar workers are considered scum and shit tier to people like Matt. They mow his lawn and clean his toilet and don't bother to look up Thailand on maps
Minorities and blue collar workers are considered scum and shit tier to people like Matt. They mow his lawn and clean his toilet and don't bother to look up Thailand on maps
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 5 years ago, 13 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,151,972
@1,151,956 (A)
And if you have kids to raise and a household to take care of too?
Imagine waking up, making lunch for the kids, getting them dressed and ready for school, commuting to work, working 8 hours on your feet (whether manual labour in the mines or construction or cleaning or in a busy fast food restaurant or retail store with the manager breathing down your neck "if you have time to lean, you have time to clean!"), commuting back home, making the kids dinner, helping them with homework, cleaning the house. And lilywhite soft-handed people like OP look down on you because you use your precious few minutes of free time to, god forbid, watch TV and unwind instead of dedicating yourself to learning?
No wonder there's such a class disconnect.
And if you have kids to raise and a household to take care of too?
Imagine waking up, making lunch for the kids, getting them dressed and ready for school, commuting to work, working 8 hours on your feet (whether manual labour in the mines or construction or cleaning or in a busy fast food restaurant or retail store with the manager breathing down your neck "if you have time to lean, you have time to clean!"), commuting back home, making the kids dinner, helping them with homework, cleaning the house. And lilywhite soft-handed people like OP look down on you because you use your precious few minutes of free time to, god forbid, watch TV and unwind instead of dedicating yourself to learning?
No wonder there's such a class disconnect.
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Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,151,973
tteh !MemesToDNA joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 17 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,151,975
Donald Trump is a fucking idiot. Shock horror!
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 5 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,151,976
@1,151,973 (F)
You know what? I'm not sure. It just sounded like such a Matt post that I immediately assumed.
You know what? I'm not sure. It just sounded like such a Matt post that I immediately assumed.
Anonymous F replied with this 5 years ago, 17 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,151,982
@previous (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
Matt has no moral ground to stand on when it comes to criticizing another man's mispronunciations. He frequently misspells words here.
Matt has no moral ground to stand on when it comes to criticizing another man's mispronunciations. He frequently misspells words here.
Apocalypse Indy™ !bYobIzYIFE (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 5 hours later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,152,116
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 5 years ago, 3 hours later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,152,162
@previous (Apocalypse Indy™ !bYobIzYIFE)
You really can't fathom that many people work hard jobs for long hours and when they come home they are tired and don't want to spend their precious rare free time learning things that will likely never come up in their life?
You really can't fathom that many people work hard jobs for long hours and when they come home they are tired and don't want to spend their precious rare free time learning things that will likely never come up in their life?
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Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 37 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,152,169
@OP If you are going to be educated and worldly, might I suggest The Conquest of Bread? Perhaps Das Kapital? Perhaps you will stop being so deeply alienated from your communities that you sneer down at them from your ivory tower, and understand the laborer's plight.
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 5 years ago, 52 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,152,182
@previous (H)
This thread is honestly so revealing of how privileged his life has been and how disconnected he is from the reality of so many of his fellow men. How sad.
This thread is honestly so revealing of how privileged his life has been and how disconnected he is from the reality of so many of his fellow men. How sad.
Meta !Sober//iZs joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 36 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,152,195
@1,151,909 (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
> You know what? This actually really supports Meta's point that plebs/the working class relate to/identify with Trump. Not in relation to his financial status or lived experiences. But because of gaffes like this. A lower-class American who went to public school may very well make the same mistake. When people laugh at it or attack it, they feel that other people look down on them. Boris Johnson operates similarly, as did, I gather, Bush Jr. They think of him as someone they'd get along with and with whom they'd like to have a beer. I see. Interesting.
YES!!! When plebs see this they think Trump is a normal guy, like them. It's true Trump was born into wealth, has ten billion dollars, etc, etc. In economic terms Trump has nothing much in common with plebs. But in the way he acts, the way he talks, the social signals he sends, he is a total pleb. He is a pleb who won the Powerball lottery, basically.
I don't follow British politics closely enough to know much about Boris but Dubya had a similar thing going on (but with a conservative christian cowboy image instead of a billionaire debauched libertine one).
So plebs see stuff like "Covfefe" or "Bigly" and I guess "Thigh Land" now and they think "he's a real person, just like me". Then they see the massive tempest in a teapot news cycle about it and see it as an attack by the media and the intelligentsia on them, personally. I mean who hasn't fucked up the pronunciation on some foreign word? Or sent a garbled text to someone? Or made an embarrassing typo?
Honestly the question of "tie land" vs "thigh land" is fucking retarded because the actual name of the country is "Ratcha-anachak Thai" which I haven't heard anyone say yet.
> You know what? This actually really supports Meta's point that plebs/the working class relate to/identify with Trump. Not in relation to his financial status or lived experiences. But because of gaffes like this. A lower-class American who went to public school may very well make the same mistake. When people laugh at it or attack it, they feel that other people look down on them. Boris Johnson operates similarly, as did, I gather, Bush Jr. They think of him as someone they'd get along with and with whom they'd like to have a beer. I see. Interesting.
YES!!! When plebs see this they think Trump is a normal guy, like them. It's true Trump was born into wealth, has ten billion dollars, etc, etc. In economic terms Trump has nothing much in common with plebs. But in the way he acts, the way he talks, the social signals he sends, he is a total pleb. He is a pleb who won the Powerball lottery, basically.
I don't follow British politics closely enough to know much about Boris but Dubya had a similar thing going on (but with a conservative christian cowboy image instead of a billionaire debauched libertine one).
So plebs see stuff like "Covfefe" or "Bigly" and I guess "Thigh Land" now and they think "he's a real person, just like me". Then they see the massive tempest in a teapot news cycle about it and see it as an attack by the media and the intelligentsia on them, personally. I mean who hasn't fucked up the pronunciation on some foreign word? Or sent a garbled text to someone? Or made an embarrassing typo?
Honestly the question of "tie land" vs "thigh land" is fucking retarded because the actual name of the country is "Ratcha-anachak Thai" which I haven't heard anyone say yet.
Anonymous H replied with this 5 years ago, 10 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,152,196
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
It's probably worth mentioning that a lot of Trump supporters saw "covfefe" and see QAnon, not a charming gaffe.
It's probably worth mentioning that a lot of Trump supporters saw "covfefe" and see QAnon, not a charming gaffe.
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 5 years ago, 19 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,152,198
@previous (H)
He clearly meant to type "coverage". I'm not sure how he got "covfefe" but it was pretty obviously a typo.
He clearly meant to type "coverage". I'm not sure how he got "covfefe" but it was pretty obviously a typo.
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 19 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,152,201
@1,151,973 (F)
> Is OP really Matt?
I knew it was Matt from the first post itt...
> stable genius
Matt uses that name 99.99% more here than anyone else.
> Is OP really Matt?
I knew it was Matt from the first post itt...
> stable genius
Matt uses that name 99.99% more here than anyone else.
Anonymous J double-posted this 5 years ago, 2 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,152,202
ITT: Matt still pretends he's smart even after getting that online university degree.
blom joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 32 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,152,208
@1,151,909 (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
Bush did that on purpose a lot. People remember him as being kinda stupid but the guy was a Yale graduate and apparently very intelligent. He did a lot of those gaffes purposefully so he would seem more approachable
Bush did that on purpose a lot. People remember him as being kinda stupid but the guy was a Yale graduate and apparently very intelligent. He did a lot of those gaffes purposefully so he would seem more approachable
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 4 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,152,210
@1,152,182 (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
> This thread is honestly so revealing of how privileged his life has been and how disconnected he is from the reality of so many of his fellow men. How sad.
And yet despite his privilege he is still unemployable in any job that requires an actual skillset and education. He had to resort to ESL teaching in China.
Matt is his own worst example of the point he's making. If anyone has squandered the opportunity to better themselves, it's him. What kind of intellectual snob is reduced to selling sandwiches to students from a fucking truck because nobody will hire him?
> This thread is honestly so revealing of how privileged his life has been and how disconnected he is from the reality of so many of his fellow men. How sad.
And yet despite his privilege he is still unemployable in any job that requires an actual skillset and education. He had to resort to ESL teaching in China.
Matt is his own worst example of the point he's making. If anyone has squandered the opportunity to better themselves, it's him. What kind of intellectual snob is reduced to selling sandwiches to students from a fucking truck because nobody will hire him?
Anonymous L double-posted this 5 years ago, 5 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,152,211
@1,152,202 (J)
> ITT: Matt still pretends he's smart even after getting that online university degree.
Yeah, that's another bizarre thing about this whole thread. On what planet is Matt considered educated and intelligent? Anything above a basic grasp of a subject is what he considers expert level. Personally I find him to be stupid and poorly-informed.
> ITT: Matt still pretends he's smart even after getting that online university degree.
Yeah, that's another bizarre thing about this whole thread. On what planet is Matt considered educated and intelligent? Anything above a basic grasp of a subject is what he considers expert level. Personally I find him to be stupid and poorly-informed.
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 5 years ago, 2 hours later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,152,221
@1,152,195 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
Yes, everything you've written (besides the very last paragraph about the pronunciation of Thailand) is exactly what I was trying to say.
It's a bit worrisome how consistently people seem to fall for this fairly simple trick.
@1,152,210 (L)
@previous (L)
Yup. But he sees himself as well-educated and intelligent. I do wonder what his current thing is, as it seems he's already abandoned the food truck idea. And I wonder what he does to actually make money while trying all these get-rich-quick schemes.
Yes, everything you've written (besides the very last paragraph about the pronunciation of Thailand) is exactly what I was trying to say.
It's a bit worrisome how consistently people seem to fall for this fairly simple trick.
@1,152,210 (L)
@previous (L)
Yup. But he sees himself as well-educated and intelligent. I do wonder what his current thing is, as it seems he's already abandoned the food truck idea. And I wonder what he does to actually make money while trying all these get-rich-quick schemes.
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 5 years ago, 17 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,152,548
@previous (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
This could be easily counteracted if the left acted less like prissy elocution teachers and focused more on the concerns of the working class, preferably with someone who sent out prole vibes instead of SWPL vibes. This combined with a pivot from identity politics to economic concerns (whatever happened to "fight for 15"? [15 dollars an hour minimum wage] I haven't heard that in years...) would absolutely demolish Trump's support in the working class.
I often wonder if Trump doesn't do this on purpose. COVID numbers bad? GDP down? How is Trump gonna talk his way out of this one? THIGH LAND!!!!! COVFEFE!!! BIGLY!!!
Now the news has been distracted from anything substantial. Ignore those numbers, get mad about Trump's mispronunciation!
Trump's enough of a prole that I really can't tell if the gaffes are deliberate or not. I think a good percentage of them are not deliberate, but he knows he can distract everyone at any time by making one.
This could be easily counteracted if the left acted less like prissy elocution teachers and focused more on the concerns of the working class, preferably with someone who sent out prole vibes instead of SWPL vibes. This combined with a pivot from identity politics to economic concerns (whatever happened to "fight for 15"? [15 dollars an hour minimum wage] I haven't heard that in years...) would absolutely demolish Trump's support in the working class.
I often wonder if Trump doesn't do this on purpose. COVID numbers bad? GDP down? How is Trump gonna talk his way out of this one? THIGH LAND!!!!! COVFEFE!!! BIGLY!!!
Now the news has been distracted from anything substantial. Ignore those numbers, get mad about Trump's mispronunciation!
Trump's enough of a prole that I really can't tell if the gaffes are deliberate or not. I think a good percentage of them are not deliberate, but he knows he can distract everyone at any time by making one.
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,152,556
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
> This could be easily counteracted if the left acted less like prissy elocution teachers and focused more on the concerns of the working class, preferably with someone who sent out prole vibes instead of SWPL vibes. This combined with a pivot from identity politics to economic concerns (whatever happened to "fight for 15"? [15 dollars an hour minimum wage] I haven't heard that in years...) would absolutely demolish Trump's support in the working class.
I feel that's got to do with how the entire left has to band together. The elitist shit is what you get from more centrist liberals. Matt is in this group. Hardcore leftists, the ones who'd fight for 15, also tend to be hardcore anti-elitist.
> This could be easily counteracted if the left acted less like prissy elocution teachers and focused more on the concerns of the working class, preferably with someone who sent out prole vibes instead of SWPL vibes. This combined with a pivot from identity politics to economic concerns (whatever happened to "fight for 15"? [15 dollars an hour minimum wage] I haven't heard that in years...) would absolutely demolish Trump's support in the working class.
I feel that's got to do with how the entire left has to band together. The elitist shit is what you get from more centrist liberals. Matt is in this group. Hardcore leftists, the ones who'd fight for 15, also tend to be hardcore anti-elitist.
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 23 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,152,557
@1,152,210 (L)
> What kind of intellectual snob is reduced to selling sandwiches to students from a fucking truck because nobody will hire him?
I don't think he even has a food truck yet. It's just a fantasy for him so far.
@1,152,548 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
> Trump's enough of a prole that I really can't tell if the gaffes are deliberate or not.
I think he's genuinely stupid. Only a fool would form a cult of personality around himself since, historically, the person always dies.
> What kind of intellectual snob is reduced to selling sandwiches to students from a fucking truck because nobody will hire him?
I don't think he even has a food truck yet. It's just a fantasy for him so far.
@1,152,548 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
> Trump's enough of a prole that I really can't tell if the gaffes are deliberate or not.
I think he's genuinely stupid. Only a fool would form a cult of personality around himself since, historically, the person always dies.