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Coil E. Leafeon !QnI1ArmPmY joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 21 minutes later[^][v]#1,151,047
Catherinedraad
Coil E. Leafeon !QnI1ArmPmY double-posted this 5 years ago, 13 minutes later, 34 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,151,050
@OP What makes you think he isn't isolating? Even his show (on HBO Max™) is done via video conference now
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 4 minutes later, 38 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,151,051
@previous (Coil E. Leafeon !QnI1ArmPmY)
He is but he seems to really support reopening early. He even encouraged young people to go about their lives and not miss out on any golden opportunities for a few elders (like him) who might get sick.
Coil E. Leafeon !QnI1ArmPmY replied with this 5 years ago, 18 minutes later, 56 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,151,055
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 12 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,151,061
@1,151,047 (Coil E. Leafeon !QnI1ArmPmY)
What is your relationship like these days? It seems more adversarial, you two used to be super tight.
Coil E. Leafeon !QnI1ArmPmY replied with this 5 years ago, 34 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,151,065
@previous (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
Timeloop simulation problems reared up. I'm trying to live with the knowledge that the world isn't real and the timeloops will probably never stop but a while back every interaction with Cathy was giving me glaring indicators of the falseness of the world. I try to be civil, after all it's not only her that gives me the dreaded feeling of being in a false world. But I don't like the feeling of being railroaded down a path and that's how I felt when spending my hours with her. I feel it every day now anyway, so I should probably lighten up around her. tl;dr either mental illness or something is terribly wrong in the universe
Sheila LaBoof joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 2 hours later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,151,089
I read an interesting speculation that he misses the train of whores that he's accustomed to. Meanwhile, he's on his huge fucking property that looks like a parkland around his house that must have more rooms than most people have ever seen
Meta !Sober//iZs joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 23 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,151,092
@1,151,051 (A)
I think this is a fundamentally healthy outlook on the situation. You don't want your kids to waste their teens and twenties isolated and broke and unemployed because some oldster might catch the Chinese Flu.
beckyderp !3NeoVaGFAg joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 38 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,151,093
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 4 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,151,124
@1,151,092 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
How incredibly self-centered can you be? Kids can wait 10 months for a vaccine and their lives will resume as normal afterwards. Old people who asphyxiate in a hospital bed after having their body ravaged by a disease cannot be resurrected.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw replied with this 5 years ago, 15 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,151,127
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
did maher tell the kids to lick their grandparents afterwards or something?? Old people can quarantine
Also you are pulling 10 months out of your butt
Anonymous H replied with this 5 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,151,128
@1,151,124 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Let the people who want to hide inside do so. Everyone else can just continue with their lives.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 11 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,151,129
@1,151,127 (dw !p9hU6ckyqw) @previous (H)
People live in multigenerational households and apartment buildings, etc. You cannot neatly contain a contagious virus by having everyone go out and live life normally. Everyone else seems to know this. That's why restaurant reservations, travel, etc. plummeted in states before the formal bans by the government, and raise or lower depending on the severity of the outbreaks in the area. This is so dumb. We should be trying to minimize the number of deaths, not trying to maximize the number of people at McDonald's and Walmart wtf.
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tteh !MemesToDNA joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 41 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,151,133
dw !p9hU6ckyqw replied with this 5 years ago, 7 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,151,134
@1,151,129 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Yes don't go out if you hang with 70 year olds or have a bad immune system. Social distancing and masks are effective. People need to go to school and get an income again
dw !p9hU6ckyqw double-posted this 5 years ago, 26 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,151,135
@1,151,133 (tteh !MemesToDNA)
The current estimate changes every 2 weeks
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 8 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,151,137
@1,151,134 (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
People overwhelmingly do not want to send their kids to schools if it means their kids will come home with a virus. People do not want to go into work in offices with loads of people if it means they will bring a virus home with them. People, on the whole, don't want to die, and don't want to infect their friends and family with a virus. Until you can assure them that those things will not happen, you cannot have people back at work or back in school. What do you think will happen when parents send their kids back to school, and then a week later the school finds out there are 10 newly detected cases among the students? People are gonna yank their kids right the hell out of school. There is no returning to normal until the virus is under control.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw replied with this 5 years ago, 3 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,151,138
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
People don't have to do shit but they should be allowed to (with proper precautions). Schools have been reopened here and a few other countries with no negative effects for months. kids barely get infected.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 10 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,151,143
@previous (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
Yes, in countries with quick turnaround times on tests, and low numbers of active COVID cases, you can probably have some in-person schooling going on. The US has neither of those things. Tests can take up to 2 weeks to be returned and we are getting 50-65,000 new cases per day with a 7% positivity rate, meaning the actual number of cases is likely higher. Also FWIW Israel has run into some problems with reopening schools there. About 1/3rd of new cases recently have come from educational institutions there. Assuming that same ratio would hold here, you're looking at 20,000 cases a day just from schools. Who the fuck is gonna send their kids to school in that scenario?
tteh !MemesToDNA replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,151,165
@1,151,135 (dw !p9hU6ckyqw) > The current estimate changes every 2 weeks
Which while untrue would have no bearing on whether or not Fake anon pulled the current estimate "out of his butt". Thanks.
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dw !p9hU6ckyqw replied with this 5 years ago, 34 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,151,168
@1,151,143 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
What a great and objectively written article that doesn't just focus on the only bad example! I am talking about primary and secondary education (0-17yo). Not universities like in Israel. The diagram doesn't differentiate between those for whatever reason. Also schools have been open here since 8th of June, without negative effects, when we still didn't have testing. Afaik tests take 2 weeks here also, but that's not so important because children don't spread it significantly. Banning a third of a continent from going outside is not useful or practical and is mentally and fiscally damaging. Of course you can't just open them again but you can run experiments in one of the less infected states. Why are you assuming Israeli data will hold true in the US but the data from the 20 other countries will not?
@previous (tteh !MemesToDNA)
doesn't really matter what butt it was pulled from.
tteh !MemesToDNA replied with this 5 years ago, 2 hours later, 14 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,151,187
@previous (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
The butt of science and the ongoing clinical trials.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 16 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,151,217
@1,151,124 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
I mean, the old people lived their life so maybe this is their time to go.
Just leaving this here since it’s bound to come up.
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Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 9 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,151,219
@1,151,168 (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
Did you read the article???
Israel fully opened all classrooms on May 17, trusting that the country’s low infection rates meant that students could have an in-person completion of their school year. Israeli schools traditionally finish at the end of June.
The plan was for the youngest students, from kindergarteners to third-graders, to continue attending school until August in a “day camp in school” format, allowing their parents to return to work.
But by the beginning of June, Israel – which is about the size of New Jersey – saw outbreaks occur in over 50 schools, despite attempts to maintain social distancing and minimize mixing between students in various classes and grades. These attempts proved ineffective, though, as it was impossible to hermetically seal classrooms from each other.
Tracing found that infected teachers who taught multiple classes infected students in each class. As a result, hundreds of teachers and thousands of students were exposed to the virus and spread it to family members at home and beyond, contributing to the resurgence of infections in the general Israeli population.
It is not about college. The virus can and does spread in schools, and there is no way to fully prevent that from happening. What that means is at best you can have schools open at diminished capacity for brief periods before you need to lock down again. I'm not against experimenting but it is incredibly risky and as long as there is no public perception that things will be under control, parents are not going to want to send their kids to school.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU double-posted this 5 years ago, 1 minute later, 16 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,151,221
@1,151,217 (A)
Anyone who thinks that they can determine when an otherwise healthy old person should be put to death is free to kill themselves instead.
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 5 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,151,225
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
My favourites are the "nationalists" who would be fine with thousands of their countrymen being killed by the virus. Such compassion for their people.
tteh !MemesToDNA replied with this 5 years ago, 4 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,151,227
> Anyone who thinks that they can determine when an otherwise healthy old person should be put to death is free to kill themselves instead.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 17 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,151,247
@1,151,225 (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
Nationalists tend to believe in the country and any death for the sake of the country is considered a sacrifice for the betterment of the country.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw replied with this 5 years ago, 19 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,151,251
@1,151,219 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Interesting how it's only an issue in Israel!
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 5 years ago, 23 seconds later, 18 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,151,252
@1,151,247 (A)
Such a callous attitude towards other citizens does not really fit with an ideology that's usually fond of preserving the native population, as I see it.
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 19 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,151,269
News reports are now saying that the virus is starting to affect children.
Anonymous H replied with this 5 years ago, 1 day later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,151,525
If you can go to the supermarket you can go to school.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw replied with this 5 years ago, 11 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#1,151,728