Anonymous A started this discussion 5 years ago#101,783
It’s honestly one of the better Star Wars movies that Disney put out besides Rogue One. It had the charm that Han Solo and Lando Calrissian had the Empire Strikes Back and it was written by Lawrence Kasdan who really was the secret ingredient behind why this franchise was such a success. This only suffered because of the butthurt over the The Last Jedi given how it was released fairly soon after that.
I think I’m going to watch it again and see how it holds up given how it’s two years old already.
blom joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 1 minute later[^][v]#1,149,596
Catherine thread
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 6 hours later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,149,654
I like to watch young wild redhead whore solo vids.
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 3 hours later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,149,693
Catherinedraad but also, it's just bad?
There's a fucking moment where Han has to go through a fucking checkpoint and he is just *given* the name Han Solo, and it sticks, and then he gives Chewie the nickname Chewbacca like it's a moment. And it's like... this is a franchise where you give your villains the name "Dark Father". It's not a name that needed explanation, and it's not a nickname that needed explanation - abbreviating "Chewbacca" to "Chewie" is something anyone with a functioning brain could have put together.
It also breaks a cardinal rule of robots in fiction where it acknowledges droids as slaves without making the story directly about a robot slave rebellion, and washes it in a "silly feminist! haha" wrapping. I'd expect nothing less from the group that thought Rise of Skywalker was okay to put in theaters. The Lord and Miller version would have been better, like. The team behind Into the Spiderverse *and* Clone High *and* The Lego Movie, with a Star Wars movie that doesn't have to be serious, it would have slapped.
But brand integrity comes first to Disney, and thus good things are not possible.
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 4 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,149,697
*Soylo
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 4 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,149,698
@1,149,693 (D)
What is wrong with acknowledging droids as slaves and not having the center story focus on them?
Robots are always re-programmable and thus any slave rebellion among droids would be a pretty laughable matter.
Anonymous D replied with this 5 years ago, 27 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,149,702
@previous (A)
It is laughable but only because it's really poorly written, it kind of pokes holes in the ethics of the story without plugging them back up with something else, and while characters having robot servants is one thing, since robots aren't innately sentient, the moment they desire freedom it recontextualizes the characters who own those robots as slave owners, and then does nothing with that.
It ends with the character who wanted that freedom living in eternal slavery as a part of the Falcon, and it'd be one thing if this were ever a bad thing, but by the end of the sequel trilogy, everyone is so rock-hard for the original trilogy that a character could literally commit genocide and still be revered by the story for showing up in the original trilogy. (This literally happens.)
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 15 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,149,703
@previous (D)
Robots can never be enslaved for they aren't organic beings and the minute they desire freedom is the day they could be reprogrammed or have their memories wiped. That's why it's laughable. Especially considering what happened to C-3PO in his given time. The only reason why Lando didn't wipe that droid's memory is because she had sensitive data and he was probably fucking it. A droids civil rights movement does sound like an interesting storytelling device for this franchise given how droids are often viewed, but audiences would probably assume this is only done for the woke factor.
Anonymous D replied with this 5 years ago, 9 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,149,707
@previous (A)
"They aren't slaves, they can be forced to be slaves when they show free will." isn't the strong argument you think it is.
Sheila LaBoof joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 35 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,149,709
he should be Chinese and we call him Han Soro
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 14 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,149,715