Topic: A top Yale epidemiologist calls for Hydroxychloroquine, Azithromycin, and zinc to treat COVID-19
Meta !Sober//iZs started this discussion 5 years ago #101,648
An interesting read. Hugely improves outcomes when given early (not so much when given late in the virus). I think we need to promote this, since it is very effective and we already have all the ingredients necessary.
https://www.newsweek.com/key-defeating-covid-19-already-exists-we-need-start-using-it-opinion-1519535
https://www.newsweek.com/key-defeating-covid-19-already-exists-we-need-start-using-it-opinion-1519535
Coil E. Leafeon !QnI1ArmPmY joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 14 minutes later[^] [v] #1,147,903
Everyone be cool and pretend that Trump hasn't been saying this all along
jodie !foster2PAQ joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 45 minutes later, 59 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,922
@previous (Coil E. Leafeon !QnI1ArmPmY)
> Everyone be cool and pretend that Trump hasn't been saying this all along
i don't think anyone is going to do that
> Everyone be cool and pretend that Trump hasn't been saying this all along
i don't think anyone is going to do that
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 9 hours later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,148,048
@1,147,903 (Coil E. Leafeon !QnI1ArmPmY)
No, Brie. People didn't like him saying that because, at the time, there wasn't clear evidence to support that the drug was effective. Becky did an excellent rundown of the situation here:
http://minichan.org/topic/101036#reply_1140873
He was impulsively giving out unproven medical suggestions, which is highly inappropriate and irregular for a head of state to do during a pandemic. He did a similar thing when he blurted out that injections of disinfectant might be an effective treatment.
However, skimming this article it seems like there's a good amount of evidence emerging that it is helpful in the early stages of COVID-19, so I agree that it should be used if the evidence supports it.
No, Brie. People didn't like him saying that because, at the time, there wasn't clear evidence to support that the drug was effective. Becky did an excellent rundown of the situation here:
http://minichan.org/topic/101036#reply_1140873
He was impulsively giving out unproven medical suggestions, which is highly inappropriate and irregular for a head of state to do during a pandemic. He did a similar thing when he blurted out that injections of disinfectant might be an effective treatment.
However, skimming this article it seems like there's a good amount of evidence emerging that it is helpful in the early stages of COVID-19, so I agree that it should be used if the evidence supports it.
(Edited 2 hours later.)
blom joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 2 hours later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,148,068
tteh !MemesToDNA joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 9 hours later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,148,230
@previous (blom)But what if it's broken in a way that causes it to run slightly slow, or fast? What if the hands have fallen off? Didn't think that one through, did you?
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 5 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,148,235
Sheila LaBoof joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 4 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,148,412
Is there already a completed study with robust statistical indicators? Because of the unhatched chickens.
Wait, Newsweek? Is there a link to a medical journal in the article? If there are indicators that it could be helpful, then that is reason to do actual studies. But I'm curious if there was actually a Yale study. Or are we still at the "worth looking into" stage?
Wait, Newsweek? Is there a link to a medical journal in the article? If there are indicators that it could be helpful, then that is reason to do actual studies. But I'm curious if there was actually a Yale study. Or are we still at the "worth looking into" stage?
(Edited 6 minutes later.)
Sheila LaBoof double-posted this 5 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,148,414
@1,148,048 (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
also the financial interest in a company is what is known as a "conflict of interest" which used to be something frowned upon in politics
also the financial interest in a company is what is known as a "conflict of interest" which used to be something frowned upon in politics
Meta !Sober//iZs (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,148,418
@1,148,230 (tteh !MemesToDNA)
If the hands have fallen off you could just draw on some new hands with a felt tip pen, and the clock would then be right twice a day. As for running slightly fast or slow, all clocks are "broken" in this manner... ???
@1,148,048 (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
The whole controversy started because Trump found a French study showing efficacy of HCQ for COVID. He wasn't just throwing random drugs out there. What I really wonder though is who actually discovered it originally and how they did. Like did someone notice patients already taking HCQ for rheumatoid arthritis had better COVID outcomes? It would be really interesting to know how a malaria drug became a coronavirus treatment.
If the hands have fallen off you could just draw on some new hands with a felt tip pen, and the clock would then be right twice a day. As for running slightly fast or slow, all clocks are "broken" in this manner... ???
@1,148,048 (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
The whole controversy started because Trump found a French study showing efficacy of HCQ for COVID. He wasn't just throwing random drugs out there. What I really wonder though is who actually discovered it originally and how they did. Like did someone notice patients already taking HCQ for rheumatoid arthritis had better COVID outcomes? It would be really interesting to know how a malaria drug became a coronavirus treatment.
Coil E. Leafeon !QnI1ArmPmY replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,148,427
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
because it was already known to work as an antiviral early after infection? maybe?
because it was already known to work as an antiviral early after infection? maybe?