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Topic: How many of you identify as 'ace'?

Anonymous A started this discussion 5 years ago #101,593

As in asexual or on the asexual spectrum.

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 8 minutes later[^] [v] #1,147,182

I did for a long time, but it turns out that I need an emotional connection to feel sexual towards someone

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 7 minutes later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,187

@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I think that is called "demisexual," and is considered to be under the asexual umbrella.

Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 5 minutes later, 21 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,188

I can only get aroused by certain particular things.

Coil E. Leafeon !QnI1ArmPmY joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 3 minutes later, 24 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,190

I decidedly do not, and that is okay. thanks

#AllSexualitiesMatterExceptThatOneOverThere*scowls*

jodie !foster2PAQ joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 25 minutes later, 49 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,194

I'm a fuck machine
jk

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 2 minutes later, 52 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,195

Hell no!

chill dog !!81dzJNNYL joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 26 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,198

Lol definitely not

chill dog !!81dzJNNYL double-posted this 5 years ago, 30 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,199

@1,147,187 (A)
Except nobody cares about that shit besides some angsty teenage tumblrites

Demisexuality isn't an orientation. Only being sexually attracted to people you know isn't an orientation. That would be like saying only being attracted to massive titties is an orientation.

(Edited 26 minutes later.)

Dead !Pool..v42s joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,200

Nno

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 5 years ago, 14 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,205

@1,147,187 (A)
I don't think these things need a label

chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 5 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,207

@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
They don't. Demisexuality was invented by angsty teenage tumblrites who wanted to feel special and be lgbt.

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 5 years ago, 13 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,211

@previous (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
I think feel that way about many sexualities and identities

dw joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 11 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,212

No

@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Everyone does except aforementioned Tumblr users

Coil E. Leafeon !QnI1ArmPmY replied with this 5 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,215

@1,147,211 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I think the purpose behind it is to create and embolden communities? I don't think this categorization and labeling of every aspect of people will be going away soon though, since it makes the algorithms' marketing jobs easier

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 5 years ago, 10 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,220

@previous (Coil E. Leafeon !QnI1ArmPmY)
I feel like every group doesn't need to be inclusive of everyone. It defeats the purpose
But I agree that it will only get worse

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,251

@1,147,199 (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
I'm starting to question if demisexuality isn't the complete absence of sexual attraction unless the person has an emotional connection. I used to think this myself, but it dawned on me that even if someone may need an emotional attachment in order to feel compelled toward sexual attraction. They like still experience sexual attraction when not in such a relationship. I'm thinking my concept of what demisexuality is maybe entirely misinformed and wrong.

Then again the whole asexual spectrum fucks with my brain.

Coil E. Leafeon !QnI1ArmPmY replied with this 5 years ago, 7 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,253

Externally hosted image@1,147,220 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)

Coil E. Leafeon !QnI1ArmPmY double-posted this 5 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,254

Externally hosted image@1,147,220 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
@previous (Coil E. Leafeon !QnI1ArmPmY)

Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,273

@1,147,251 (A)
Fun fact, demisexuality was a thing that was born out of a roleplay forum that someone literally made up, to explain why they would do erotic roleplay with some people but not others.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,289

@previous (J)
Oh? What was the name of the roleplay forum?

Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 5 years ago, 3 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,290

So I checked and apparently the term demisexuality was first coined in 2008 by the Asexual Visibility and Education Network. Though it seems to be a part of a large term called grey asexuality.

Anonymous J replied with this 5 years ago, 8 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,292

Externally hosted image@1,147,289 (A)
A lot of sources for this are your typical reactionaries, TumblrInAction folks, but it was a Proboards site that lived from 2003-2008. There's a handful of screencaps but the board itself is long dead.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,310

@previous (J)
How do you know they weren't referencing a pre-existing thing?

chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 5 years ago, 10 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,311

@1,147,273 (J)
Lol, of fucking course it was.

chill dog !!81dzJNNYL double-posted this 5 years ago, 19 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,312

@1,147,310 (A)
Can you find any references pre-dating 2004?

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 32 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,321

@previous (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)

> Can you find any references pre-dating 2004?

The only thing I found was that the term was coined by AVEN in 2008 which fits the time frame for that community even if it’s near the end.

I’m not sure how come some people think it’s of Native American origins though.

Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 5 years ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,322

@1,147,290 (A)
@previous (A)
Actually, I was wrong, AVEN coined it in 2006 not 2004.

Anonymous A (OP) triple-posted this 5 years ago, 5 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,323

Either way, I’m starting to see why it’s different from someone who doesn’t want to have sex unless they have an emotional connection with somebody. It’s because demisexuals find it is near impossible to be sexually aroused unless with someone who says an emotional attachment. Others can still experience sexual arousal but choose to not engage in sexual affairs until an emotional connection is made.

I used to think the same thing and often thought it was silly to label something that most people do, but it hit me like a ton of bricks that isn’t what the term actually alludes to and that I was stupid.

In short, demisexuals seem to be asexuals unless they have an emotional bond. I suppose that’s why it’s considered grey asexually.

dw replied with this 5 years ago, 3 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,324

@previous (A)

> It’s because demisexuals find it is near impossible to be sexually aroused unless with someone who says an emotional attachment.

I mean most people don't want to fuck random strangers

Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 17 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,327

Externally hosted image

Anonymous J replied with this 5 years ago, 2 hours later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,336

@1,147,323 (A)
I think there is another term for this, used by neither children, nor people who are very invested in gaining a stake in the LGBT community they do not already have, and it is "having boundaries".

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 5 years ago, 2 hours later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,344

@1,147,253 (Coil E. Leafeon !QnI1ArmPmY)
Lol

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 3 hours later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,368

@1,147,324 (dw)
@1,147,336 (J)

There's a difference between having an urge to fuck strangers and basic sexual arousal. I know this is something difficult to grasp as I had a hard time to grasp it myself, but it's kind of straightforward.

If you see an attractive person walking down the street. Do you take a glance and feel drawn to them even if you know it's unrealistic to assume you'd fuck them? Demisexuals wouldn't experience this at all unless that person was absolutely close to them.

Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 5 years ago, 29 seconds later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,369

Of course, I'm still trying to understand all of this shit myself so I might be wrong also, but god damn it, I'm going to keep trying to understand.

Meowth joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 4 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,371

I don't think I'm asexual, I think I'm just tired of dating nutjobs that constantly want to be fucked.

Anonymous J replied with this 5 years ago, 3 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,376

@1,147,368 (A)
I know what demisexuality is, I've been down the split-attraction model rabbit hole before, and when I was down that rabbit hole, that was my label of choice. At the bottom of that hole is a person who conceptualizes themselves as a series of labels, and that's just not healthy.

dw replied with this 5 years ago, 1 minute later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,378

@1,147,368 (A)
that sounds like fake news to me tbh

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,397

@previous (dw)
Why is it fake news?

Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 5 years ago, 40 seconds later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,399

@1,147,376 (J)
You know nobody really gives themselves twenty or so labels to describe themselves in the real world.

Anonymous J replied with this 5 years ago, 10 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,405

@previous (A)
It's not about the amount of labels, it's about the way those labels interact with reality.

chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 5 years ago, 41 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,421

It is such a needless label, too. You don't need a category for people who don't do one night stands or hook-ups.

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 6 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,427

@previous (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
Especially when we already have one: "boring prudes".

Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 2 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,428

Yeah, I'm pretty ace. All me friends say I'm ace, me mum says I'm ace, even random people on the street tell me "lookin' ace today, lad". I guess you could say I'm pretty ace.

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 5 years ago, 3 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,430

@previous (M)
Lol

chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 5 years ago, 14 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,435

@1,147,428 (M)
Lol cute. I wish people used that phrase here, I want someone to call me ace.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 31 seconds later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,436

@1,147,421 (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
That's not why the label exists.

Anonymous M replied with this 5 years ago, 1 minute later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,437

@1,147,435 (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)

You're ace, bud. :)

chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 5 years ago, 2 hours later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,486

@1,147,436 (A)
Why do you think it exists?

@previous (M)
:') thanks bud

dw replied with this 5 years ago, 18 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,147,734

@1,147,397 (A)
I don't think anyone (with eyesight) can exclude visuals from attraction. also they use dating apps which dont share really anything about a person besides how they look
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