Topic: Trump finally completes a wall along the Mexican border.
Anonymous A started this discussion 5 years ago #101,060
Too bad it's only a hypthetical wall, built of COVID ridden bodies.
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/505806-mexico-closes-border-in-arizona-as-coronavirus-cases-in-both-country
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/505806-mexico-closes-border-in-arizona-as-coronavirus-cases-in-both-country
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chill dog !!81dzJNNYL joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 2 minutes later[^] [v] #1,140,746
Lol. Years (decades?) of America blustering about closing the border and both of their neighbours closed the borders on them.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,140,747
Walls keep people in just as much as they keep people out! I can't wait for Trump to finish the wall so that in 2024 when president AOC throws all the straight people into FEMA re-education labor camps, they can't escape to Mexico.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 34 seconds later, 5 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,140,748
@1,140,746 (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
The irony is so delicious, it'll probably give you diabetes.
The irony is so delicious, it'll probably give you diabetes.
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Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 5 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,140,750
Meta !Sober//iZs joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 3 minutes later, 10 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,140,754
@1,140,746 (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
I mean from a practical standpoint if Mexico builds a wall to keep us out or we build one to keep Mexico out it's the same either way. It's retarded, some galaxy brain autistic shit arguing whether the fence in your backyard is to keep you out of the neighbors yard or the neighbor out of your yard. At the end of the day, the result is the same.
I should add, if Mexico closes the border at their own expense, they will have paid for the wall fulfilling two Trump campaign promises in one go ???
I mean from a practical standpoint if Mexico builds a wall to keep us out or we build one to keep Mexico out it's the same either way. It's retarded, some galaxy brain autistic shit arguing whether the fence in your backyard is to keep you out of the neighbors yard or the neighbor out of your yard. At the end of the day, the result is the same.
I should add, if Mexico closes the border at their own expense, they will have paid for the wall fulfilling two Trump campaign promises in one go ???
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chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 5 years ago, 9 minutes later, 20 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,140,755
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
On a practical level, yes absolutely. I find it funny at the ego level, where the people that America blusters about rejecting actually reject Americans first.
I doubt they're actually building a wall though. That's silly and impractical and just not the best way to control the border. People will find ways over or under it...or maybe blow pieces of it up.
On a practical level, yes absolutely. I find it funny at the ego level, where the people that America blusters about rejecting actually reject Americans first.
I doubt they're actually building a wall though. That's silly and impractical and just not the best way to control the border. People will find ways over or under it...or maybe blow pieces of it up.
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 5 years ago, 4 minutes later, 24 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,140,757
@previous (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
It seems to work pretty good for Israel today, and the former Communist Bloc 60 years ago, not to mention China 1000 years ago. And Hadrian 2000 years ago... ?
It seems to work pretty good for Israel today, and the former Communist Bloc 60 years ago, not to mention China 1000 years ago. And Hadrian 2000 years ago... ?
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 5 years ago, 6 minutes later, 30 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,140,759
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
People got through the German wall fairly frequently, didn't they?
The area around Hadrian's wall wasn't exactly heavily populated.
Edit: and it probably wasn't built to actually keep people in/out, but as an expression of Roman power/conquest.
I don't know anything about a wall in Israel.
People got through the German wall fairly frequently, didn't they?
The area around Hadrian's wall wasn't exactly heavily populated.
Edit: and it probably wasn't built to actually keep people in/out, but as an expression of Roman power/conquest.
I don't know anything about a wall in Israel.
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jodie !foster2PAQ joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 2 minutes later, 32 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,140,760
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 5 years ago, 1 minute later, 34 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,140,761
@previous (jodie !foster2PAQ)
I wasn't denying that there is one. Just saying I don't know anything about it, its construction, or its efficacy.
I wasn't denying that there is one. Just saying I don't know anything about it, its construction, or its efficacy.
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL double-posted this 5 years ago, 24 seconds later, 34 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,140,762
jodie !foster2PAQ replied with this 5 years ago, 3 minutes later, 38 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,140,764
jodie !foster2PAQ double-posted this 5 years ago, 28 seconds later, 38 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,140,765
or the car even
do you need glasses
do you need glasses
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 5 years ago, 54 seconds later, 39 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,140,767
@1,140,759 (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
Most of the US-Mexico border is sparsely populated desert.
Wiki says 5,000 people successfully defected from East to West Berlin but there's not much breakdown in terms of when (the wall was much easier to cross during initial construction). I'd be interested to see how many crossed when the wall was more or less in its final form.
Most of the US-Mexico border is sparsely populated desert.
Wiki says 5,000 people successfully defected from East to West Berlin but there's not much breakdown in terms of when (the wall was much easier to cross during initial construction). I'd be interested to see how many crossed when the wall was more or less in its final form.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 31 seconds later, 40 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,140,768
@1,140,764 (jodie !foster2PAQ)
Many people are pro open borders for the US but not for Israel and other countries
Many people are pro open borders for the US but not for Israel and other countries
jodie !foster2PAQ replied with this 5 years ago, 6 minutes later, 46 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,140,772
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 5 years ago, 2 minutes later, 48 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,140,774
@previous (jodie !foster2PAQ)
Many people disagree with America enforcing borders, but agree with other countries enforcing borders. Particularly regarding Israel.
Many people disagree with America enforcing borders, but agree with other countries enforcing borders. Particularly regarding Israel.
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chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 5 years ago, 4 minutes later, 53 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,140,777
@1,140,765 (jodie !foster2PAQ)
Actually yeah I'm waiting for my new glasses
@1,140,768 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I've seen more people complain about that than I've seen people actually espouse those views
Actually yeah I'm waiting for my new glasses
@1,140,768 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I've seen more people complain about that than I've seen people actually espouse those views
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 1 minute later, 54 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,140,779
@1,140,757 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
The Berlin Wall didnt really stop West German citizens from trying to enter East Berlin so much as it stopped migration the other way. The Israel wall is the closest analogy but the relationship between Israel and the West Bank is not really comparable to the relationship between America and Mexico. I'm also not sure we want to be emulating that particular part of Israel tbh. The whole country there is absolutely fucked forever.
The Berlin Wall didnt really stop West German citizens from trying to enter East Berlin so much as it stopped migration the other way. The Israel wall is the closest analogy but the relationship between Israel and the West Bank is not really comparable to the relationship between America and Mexico. I'm also not sure we want to be emulating that particular part of Israel tbh. The whole country there is absolutely fucked forever.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 13 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,140,786
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,140,788
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 59 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,140,790
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Hmmmmm. Maybe I could sell you lottery tickets or something, instead.
Hmmmmm. Maybe I could sell you lottery tickets or something, instead.
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 5 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,140,794
@1,140,779 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
None of the current or historic examples of walls are an exact parallel to the America-Mexico situation because each country had its own unique relations with the country it was building a wall between. East/West Germany and Israel/Gaza are radically, entirely different, situations with totally different motivations for building a wall. But, in each case, a wall worked to eliminate or significantly reduce an unwanted movement of people.
None of the current or historic examples of walls are an exact parallel to the America-Mexico situation because each country had its own unique relations with the country it was building a wall between. East/West Germany and Israel/Gaza are radically, entirely different, situations with totally different motivations for building a wall. But, in each case, a wall worked to eliminate or significantly reduce an unwanted movement of people.
dw joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 12 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,140,795
@1,140,779 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
> The Berlin Wall didnt really stop West German citizens from trying to enter East Berlin so much as it stopped migration the other way.
Wot
> The Berlin Wall didnt really stop West German citizens from trying to enter East Berlin so much as it stopped migration the other way.
Wot
Apocalypse Indy™ !bYobIzYIFE joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,140,796
@1,140,757 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
It "works" for Israel because they shoot Palestinian kids and bulldoze their homes.
It "works" for Israel because they shoot Palestinian kids and bulldoze their homes.
jodie !foster2PAQ replied with this 5 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,140,797
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 5 years ago, 13 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,140,798
@1,140,795 (dw)
West Germans could enter but they had to do it officially and fill out the forms and convert a set amount of money into East German Marks. This was welcomed by the East because it provided foreign currency.
West Germans could enter but they had to do it officially and fill out the forms and convert a set amount of money into East German Marks. This was welcomed by the East because it provided foreign currency.
Meta !Sober//iZs double-posted this 5 years ago, 10 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,140,801
@1,140,796 (Apocalypse Indy™ !bYobIzYIFE)
I'm not endorsing or approving in any way Israel's policy on Palestinians. I'm just pointing out that a wall works for them.
If it were just shooting children and bulldozing homes, they could do that without a wall. Probably even better because they could drive the bulldozers around easier. The Jewish people are pretty damn smart. The fact they spent a lot of money and effort physically barricading themselves from Gaza and the West Bank - and many different societies independently coming up with the same concept going back thousands of years - indicates it is worthwhile.
I'm not endorsing or approving in any way Israel's policy on Palestinians. I'm just pointing out that a wall works for them.
If it were just shooting children and bulldozing homes, they could do that without a wall. Probably even better because they could drive the bulldozers around easier. The Jewish people are pretty damn smart. The fact they spent a lot of money and effort physically barricading themselves from Gaza and the West Bank - and many different societies independently coming up with the same concept going back thousands of years - indicates it is worthwhile.
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 7 hours later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,140,857
Does any one here feel it is OK for some stranger who lives in the next town up the road to walk into your house and grab a beer out of your fridge...make a sandwich and then head into the bathroom to shit shower and shave?
blom joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 2 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,140,858
Anonymous I replied with this 5 years ago, 38 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,140,870
@previous (blom)
It will discourage some people from illegally entering the country and using resources they have no business using.
It will discourage some people from illegally entering the country and using resources they have no business using.