Topic: fao second language speakers
blom started this discussion 5 years ago #100,788
Is it better to begin by learning phrases or by learning phonics?
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 2 minutes later[^] [v] #1,137,291
Phonics are basic building blocks that you should know, yeah
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 37 minutes later, 39 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,137,320
I skipped learning a second language and decided to learn my fourth language instead.
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Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 3 minutes later, 45 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,137,328
@previous (TopShagger !jzYkdX7lIw)
I know maybe a half dozen words of hebrew but I don't speak it. I don't know the grammar or the tenses or anything.
I know maybe a half dozen words of hebrew but I don't speak it. I don't know the grammar or the tenses or anything.
Apocalypse Indy™ !bYobIzYIFE joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 1 minute later, 46 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,137,329
As an actual linguist with an MA in languages and who knows several foreign languages, it is my informed opinion is that it is best to first start just imitating native speakers saying things. While you do that, you can do some review of the phonics, but it will be quicker if you just trust the natives and do what they do. Once you can hold a basic conversation from repetition, then start studying grammar.
Apocalypse Indy™ !bYobIzYIFE double-posted this 5 years ago, 34 seconds later, 47 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,137,330
@1,137,328 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Hebrew has no verb tenses. It has two verb states (perfect and imperfect), each of which has several sub-categories.
Hebrew has no verb tenses. It has two verb states (perfect and imperfect), each of which has several sub-categories.
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 5 years ago, 25 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,137,346
@1,137,329 (Apocalypse Indy™ !bYobIzYIFE)
Languages =/= linguistics. If you were a linguist you would have an MA in linguistics.
Languages =/= linguistics. If you were a linguist you would have an MA in linguistics.
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chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 5 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,137,348
@previous (Apocalypse Indy™ !fvna3QzWVM)
My friend started studying for a certificate in paleontology! I'm very excited for him.
My friend started studying for a certificate in paleontology! I'm very excited for him.
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 18 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,137,350
@1,137,330 (Apocalypse Indy™ !bYobIzYIFE)
> Hebrew has no verb tenses. It has two verb states (perfect and imperfect), each of which has several sub-categories.
That's Biblical Hebrew you retard. Modern Hebrew has verb tenses.
> Hebrew has no verb tenses. It has two verb states (perfect and imperfect), each of which has several sub-categories.
That's Biblical Hebrew you retard. Modern Hebrew has verb tenses.
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Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,137,351
@1,137,346 (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)@previous (G)
Thy are not considered tenses, but states. Also, Indy knows more about language acquisition than anyonebhere by magnitudes.
Anonymous G replied with this 5 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,137,352
@previous (H)
They are verb tenses Matt. No amount of sockpuppet UIDs will change the fact that modern Hebrew has verb tenses.
They are verb tenses Matt. No amount of sockpuppet UIDs will change the fact that modern Hebrew has verb tenses.
Anonymous H replied with this 5 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,137,353
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Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 12 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,137,355
@OP
I learnt English largely from TV shows and films and from there gradually built up my fluency by reading abridged works of literature. With that said, I was 'fortunate' in that English is probably the easiest 2nd language to learn due to its ubiquity in global culture. The method you should use, OP, depends I suppose on which language you are hoping to learn. I don't suppose there is one 'best' method that covers all of, say, English, Hungarian (notoriously difficult), Latin, Aramaic, Gujarati, etc.
Good luck to you!
I learnt English largely from TV shows and films and from there gradually built up my fluency by reading abridged works of literature. With that said, I was 'fortunate' in that English is probably the easiest 2nd language to learn due to its ubiquity in global culture. The method you should use, OP, depends I suppose on which language you are hoping to learn. I don't suppose there is one 'best' method that covers all of, say, English, Hungarian (notoriously difficult), Latin, Aramaic, Gujarati, etc.
Good luck to you!
blom (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 15 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,137,360
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chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 5 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,137,365
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@1,137,329 (Apocalypse Indy™ !bYobIzYIFE)
This is actually solid advice, that's how I picked up Polish very quickly when I moved there. Once you get the hang of it, my advice is to sign up for some proper lessons and learn spelling/grammar.
All in all, emerge yourself into the language you wanna learn, if you don't have access to local people, find some shows in the language you wanna learn. I'm watching Solsidan now while learning Swedish.
This is actually solid advice, that's how I picked up Polish very quickly when I moved there. Once you get the hang of it, my advice is to sign up for some proper lessons and learn spelling/grammar.
All in all, emerge yourself into the language you wanna learn, if you don't have access to local people, find some shows in the language you wanna learn. I'm watching Solsidan now while learning Swedish.
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Anonymous G replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,137,498
@1,137,478 (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
> All in all, emerge yourself into the language you wanna learn
Immerse, not "emerge".
> All in all, emerge yourself into the language you wanna learn
Immerse, not "emerge".