Topic: Google have removed Churchills picture
Erik !AltRitexT6 started this discussion 5 years ago #100,549
I guess he was too controversialdw joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later[^] [v] #1,134,155
Erik !AltRitexT6 (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,165
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,167
@OP@previous (Erik !AltRitexT6)
Yeah, I'm still getting it.
Seems like it could be a technical hiccup, rather than deliberate censorship? Just taking away a small image of him and nothing else would be weird and pointless. Especially considering the guys either side of him.
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dw replied with this 5 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,168
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I can see it.Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 13 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,172
@OP
Google has removed Churchill's photo.
> Seems like it could be a technical hiccup, rather than deliberate censorship?
Does it seem like it could be a technical hiccup rather than deliberate censorship?
Google has removed Churchill's photo.
> Seems like it could be a technical hiccup, rather than deliberate censorship?
Does it seem like it could be a technical hiccup rather than deliberate censorship?
blom joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 18 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,175
dw replied with this 5 years ago, 33 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,176
dw double-posted this 5 years ago, 47 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,177
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 5 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,179
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Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 43 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,206
Churchill is often the subject of false or exaggerated allegations. But in truth, he said enough horrifying things that there is no need to invent more. He said that he hated people with "slit eyes and pig tails." To him, people from India were "the beastliest people in the world next to the Germans." He admitted that he "did not really think that black people were as capable or as efficient as white people."
dw replied with this 5 years ago, 34 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,212
tteh !MemesToDNA joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 28 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,216
@1,134,172 (E)
"Google have" is perfectly correct in British English, where we often treat collective nouns as plurals. Thanks.
"Google have" is perfectly correct in British English, where we often treat collective nouns as plurals. Thanks.
Anonymous E replied with this 5 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,218
tteh !MemesToDNA replied with this 5 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,219
blom replied with this 5 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,220
I'm sure BLM would rather have a hitler statue in place.
Anonymous D replied with this 5 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,221
Anonymous G replied with this 5 years ago, 10 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,223
@1,134,218 (E)
> Is there more than one Google?
Google here is a synecdoche, as in "the decision makers at Google".
> Is there more than one Google?
Google here is a synecdoche, as in "the decision makers at Google".
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 48 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,243
@1,134,216 (tteh !MemesToDNA)
I quite enjoy that quirk of British English. I wish it was the standard here.
I quite enjoy that quirk of British English. I wish it was the standard here.
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL double-posted this 5 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,245
And yeah... This seems like a technical thing on Svets end. @1,134,155 (dw)
Have there been any protests in NL?
dw replied with this 5 years ago, 31 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,257
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 5 years ago, 22 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,274
Meta !Sober//iZs joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 4 hours later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,395
@1,134,243 (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
Me too! The only British thing I can't stand is calling sidewalks "pavement".
Me too! The only British thing I can't stand is calling sidewalks "pavement".
Anonymous D replied with this 5 years ago, 2 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,398
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 5 years ago, 3 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,400
@previous (D)
All sidewalks are pavement, but all pavement isn't sidewalks. Sidewalk makes more sense because it is the thing on the side of the road you walk on.
Most of the time the British version makes just as much sense. Like lift/elevator - it's just as reasonable either way. But sidewalk/pavement is not up for discussion. The Brits have got this one wrong and I'm not backing down.
All sidewalks are pavement, but all pavement isn't sidewalks. Sidewalk makes more sense because it is the thing on the side of the road you walk on.
Most of the time the British version makes just as much sense. Like lift/elevator - it's just as reasonable either way. But sidewalk/pavement is not up for discussion. The Brits have got this one wrong and I'm not backing down.
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Anonymous D replied with this 5 years ago, 5 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,402
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
I don't get what's so bad about calling them pavement, but you're entitled to your opinion.
I don't get what's so bad about calling them pavement, but you're entitled to your opinion.
blom replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,427
Green !StaYqkzUPc joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,462
Yeah they said it was a technical issue. Probably due to an influx of so many people searching for him due to recent events. Pretty bad timing for that though.
dw replied with this 5 years ago, 18 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,469
@1,134,274 (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
weve had some corona protests but no big ones, there were a lot of blm protests and afterwards all the news talked about for a week is how the mayor of Amsterdam didn't break up the protest because they couldn't social distance even though protesting is a constitutional right!
weve had some corona protests but no big ones, there were a lot of blm protests and afterwards all the news talked about for a week is how the mayor of Amsterdam didn't break up the protest because they couldn't social distance even though protesting is a constitutional right!
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 5 years ago, 18 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,479
@previous (dw)
To clarify, the viewpoint expressed by the reporting is that the mayor should have broken up the protests because the protestors were not social distancing?
To clarify, the viewpoint expressed by the reporting is that the mayor should have broken up the protests because the protestors were not social distancing?
dw replied with this 5 years ago, 48 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,490
@previous (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
i should've said talkshows/opinion things instead of news. the protests were covered fairly extensively by most left wing/neutral outlets.
but then most media outlets talking about the protests spend a lot more time talkign about the corona risks than racist cops.
i should've said talkshows/opinion things instead of news. the protests were covered fairly extensively by most left wing/neutral outlets.
but then most media outlets talking about the protests spend a lot more time talkign about the corona risks than racist cops.
dw double-posted this 5 years ago, 1 minute later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,491
oh also people were mad about a rapper who mentions in his speech that he would kick zwarte piet if he saw one come novemberjodie !foster2PAQ joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 1 minute later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,493
dw replied with this 5 years ago, 2 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,494
@previous (jodie !foster2PAQ)
the hashtag has been kickoutzwartepiet for a decade thats why he said it
the hashtag has been kickoutzwartepiet for a decade thats why he said it
jodie !foster2PAQ replied with this 5 years ago, 1 minute later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,495
dw replied with this 5 years ago, 1 minute later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,497
@previous (jodie !foster2PAQ)
false. also usamericans dont get to have an opinion on zwarte piet sorry
false. also usamericans dont get to have an opinion on zwarte piet sorry
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 5 years ago, 12 seconds later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,499
@1,134,490 (dw)
Ugh. Thanks for clarifying.
@1,134,491 (dw)
Why were they mad? That picture says "convinced i am worse" according to google translate. Is that right?
Ugh. Thanks for clarifying.
@1,134,491 (dw)
Why were they mad? That picture says "convinced i am worse" according to google translate. Is that right?
dw replied with this 5 years ago, 55 seconds later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,501
@previous (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
oh that pic is just a screenshot from a music vid (from a different artist). they were mad because kicking people is bad
oh that pic is just a screenshot from a music vid (from a different artist). they were mad because kicking people is bad
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dw double-posted this 5 years ago, 1 minute later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,503
but also they probably only heard the 12 seconds of the speech that contained that phrase
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 4 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,509
dw replied with this 5 years ago, 2 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,511
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
because american culture consists of killing people of colour on a daily basis and eating hamburgers
because american culture consists of killing people of colour on a daily basis and eating hamburgers
dw double-posted this 5 years ago, 15 seconds later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,512
also on a daily basis
Anonymous D replied with this 5 years ago, 1 minute later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,513
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 5 years ago, 4 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,515
@1,134,511 (dw)
But your culture did the Congo atrocities, did they not?
And you use blackface for Christmas!
But your culture did the Congo atrocities, did they not?
And you use blackface for Christmas!
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dw replied with this 5 years ago, 5 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,517
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> But your culture did the Congo atrocities, did they not?
they did not
> And you use blackface for Christmas!
i do not
> But your culture did the Congo atrocities, did they not?
they did not
> And you use blackface for Christmas!
i do not
jodie !foster2PAQ replied with this 5 years ago, 43 seconds later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,518
@1,134,497 (dw)
i don't see how white people blacking up to depict a caricaturized servile black person is better or different than American blackface
i don't see how white people blacking up to depict a caricaturized servile black person is better or different than American blackface
dw replied with this 5 years ago, 2 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,521
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 5 years ago, 47 seconds later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,522
dw replied with this 5 years ago, 26 seconds later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,523
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> They did do a lot of slavery
yes
> and the black face for Christmas seems pretty popular
no such thing
> They did do a lot of slavery
yes
> and the black face for Christmas seems pretty popular
no such thing
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 5 years ago, 1 minute later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,524
@previous (dw)
I don't believe you
Also our two countries both ended slavery less than 5 years apart
I don't believe you
Also our two countries both ended slavery less than 5 years apart
Anonymous D replied with this 5 years ago, 2 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,527
@1,134,523 (dw)
Zwart Piet is the blackface she is referring to, and ninjj is right, it is no different.
Zwart Piet is the blackface she is referring to, and ninjj is right, it is no different.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 5 years ago, 11 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,536
@previous (D)
I was referring to that, thank you
Also the Netherlands has so few black people, that when they find one, they immediately make them a "famous" rapper. Regardless of talent
I was referring to that, thank you
Also the Netherlands has so few black people, that when they find one, they immediately make them a "famous" rapper. Regardless of talent
dw replied with this 5 years ago, 5 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,542
@1,134,527 (D)
thats not a christmas character and i agree with ninjj.
i fail to see how a bunch of white americans are affected by it though
thats not a christmas character and i agree with ninjj.
i fail to see how a bunch of white americans are affected by it though
dw double-posted this 5 years ago, 3 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,547
@1,134,536 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
so you think zwarte piet is racist, but then go on to insult the people who speaks out against it even though you have never listened to his music and probably dont know his name?
so you think zwarte piet is racist, but then go on to insult the people who speaks out against it even though you have never listened to his music and probably dont know his name?
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 5 years ago, 2 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,550
dw replied with this 5 years ago, 1 minute later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,551
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 5 years ago, 15 seconds later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,552
@1,134,547 (dw)
I was not insulting him personally
I was insulting the idea that the Netherlands isn't incredibly racist
I successfully interact with non white people daily. You see maybe two a week
I was not insulting him personally
I was insulting the idea that the Netherlands isn't incredibly racist
I successfully interact with non white people daily. You see maybe two a week
dw replied with this 5 years ago, 1 minute later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,553
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> I was not insulting him personally
yes you were. you said the only reason he has an audience is because of his skin colour
> I was insulting the idea that the Netherlands isn't incredibly racist
i never said it isnt
> I successfully interact with non white people daily. You see maybe two a week
congrats on your succesful interactions with non-whites
> I was not insulting him personally
yes you were. you said the only reason he has an audience is because of his skin colour
> I was insulting the idea that the Netherlands isn't incredibly racist
i never said it isnt
> I successfully interact with non white people daily. You see maybe two a week
congrats on your succesful interactions with non-whites
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Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 5 years ago, 1 minute later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,555
@1,134,551 (dw)
But it happens in Winter, yes?
And the slaves accompany Saint Nicholas, yes?
If our Santa had black slaves, you would flip out about it every time Christmas came around
But it happens in Winter, yes?
And the slaves accompany Saint Nicholas, yes?
If our Santa had black slaves, you would flip out about it every time Christmas came around
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Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 5 years ago, 1 minute later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,556
@1,134,553 (dw)
No I was insulting the idea of him and how your country treats blacks
And what you implied was that America is so racist that no Americans can critique your culture. Despite the fact that your country is racist as well!
No I was insulting the idea of him and how your country treats blacks
And what you implied was that America is so racist that no Americans can critique your culture. Despite the fact that your country is racist as well!
Anonymous D replied with this 5 years ago, 43 seconds later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,558
@1,134,553 (dw)> The companion of Saint Nicholas.
> Not a Christmas character.
The Zwarte Piet festival may not be on Christmas day, but that does not mean he isn't a Christmas character.
dw replied with this 5 years ago, 10 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,565
@previous (D)
saint nicholas and christmas are two different holidays. our only christmas character is santa claus and jesus.
@1,134,556 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> No I was insulting the idea of him and how your country treats blacks
but you arent basing that on anything. you've never left your country, you dont know how many black people live here and you definitely dont know if dutch rappers are good.
> And what you implied was that America is so racist that no Americans can critique your culture.
Im saying white americans opinion is irrelevant. let dutch black people speak lol
> Despite the fact that your country is racist as well!
yes but not police killing blacks every day racist
saint nicholas and christmas are two different holidays. our only christmas character is santa claus and jesus.
@1,134,556 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> No I was insulting the idea of him and how your country treats blacks
but you arent basing that on anything. you've never left your country, you dont know how many black people live here and you definitely dont know if dutch rappers are good.
> And what you implied was that America is so racist that no Americans can critique your culture.
Im saying white americans opinion is irrelevant. let dutch black people speak lol
> Despite the fact that your country is racist as well!
yes but not police killing blacks every day racist
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 5 years ago, 5 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,567
@previous (dw)
A. I've listened to every Dutch rapper you've posted music from
B. You are white and criticize these things. What is the difference?
C. You don't have enough black people to shoot. Also our cops are shit and shoot a variety of races. It's horrible but changes nothing of what I've said
A. I've listened to every Dutch rapper you've posted music from
B. You are white and criticize these things. What is the difference?
C. You don't have enough black people to shoot. Also our cops are shit and shoot a variety of races. It's horrible but changes nothing of what I've said
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 5 years ago, 7 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,573
@1,134,565 (dw)
Is any of this info not true?
For most children in The Netherlands, the most important day during December is 5th December, when Sinterklaas (St. Nicholas) brings them their presents!
St. Nicholas' Day is on the 6th December, but in The Netherlands, the major celebrations are held on the 5th December, St. Nicholas' Eve. The name Santa Claus comes from the name Sinterklaas.
It all starts on the second Saturday of November (the first Saturday after 11th November) when Sinterklaas travels to a city or town in The Netherlands. Dutch tradition says that St. Nicholas lives in Madrid, Spain and every year he chooses a different harbour to arrive in The Netherlands, so as many children as possible get a chance to see him.
Sinterklass travels with his servants called 'Zwarte Pieten' ('Black Peters'). When Sinterklaas and the Black Peters come ashore from the steam boat, all of the local church bells ring in celebration. Sinterklaas, dressed in his red robes, leads a procession through the town, riding a white horse. Every town in The Netherlands has a few Sinterklaas helpers, dressed the same as Sinterklaas who help give the presents out. (And sometimes you might one see one or more Zwarte Pieten with Sinterklaas!)
Children are told that the Zwarte Pieten keep a record of all the things they have done in the past year in a big book. Good children will get presents from Sinterklaas, but bad children will be put in a sack and the Zwarte Pieten take them to Spain for a year to teach them how to behave!
On the evening that Sinterklaas arrives in The Netherlands, children leave a shoe out by the fireplace or sometimes a windowsill and sing Sinterklaas songs. They hope that Sinterklaas will come during the night with some presents. They also believe that if they leave some hay and carrots in their shoes for Sinterklaas's horse, they will be left some sweets or small presents. They're told that, during the night, Sinterklaas rides on the roofs on his horse and that a 'Zwarte Piet' will then climb down the chimney (or through a window) and put the presents and/or candy in their shoes.
In many families the children are told that Sinterklaas and Zwarte Piet make a weekly visit, so the children leave their shoe by the fireplace or window i.e. every Saturday until the main Sinterklaas party on 5th December.
The evening of December 5th is called St. Nicholas’ Eve 'Sinterklaasavond' or 'Pakjesavond' (present evening). The children will receive their presents during the evening. There might be a knock at the door and you might find a sack full of presents!
Sinterklaas parties are often held on St. Nicholas' Eve (5th), where treasure hunt games are played with poems and riddles giving the clues. Children follow the clues to find little presents left by Sinterklaas. Special biscuits and sweets are also eaten at the party. One type of biscuit is called 'letter blanket' or 'banketletter' (meaning letter cake), which is made from marzipan or pastry. The biscuits are made in the shapes of the first letter of the peoples names who are at the party. Another sweet biscuit that is eaten at the parties are 'pepernoot' which are made with cinnamon and spices in the pastry biscuit mix. Here's a recipe for peppernoot. And Here's a recipe for kerstkrans, a Dutch Christmas Ring Cake.
On the 6th of December Sinterklaas (the birthday of Sinterklaas) leaves The Netherlands by steamboat via the entrance of the port of Rotterdam (Europe’s largest port) called the Hook of Holland and he travels back to Spain.
Surprise presents are also given on St. Nicholas' Day. A custom at the Sinterklaas parties, often within classes at schools, is that everyone's name is put into a hat and everyone picks another person's name - then they have to make a surprise present for that person. The presents are often things that the person would find useful with their favorite hobby. The presents come with a poem inside that gives a clue to who might have sent the present, but it is all meant to be a mystery! This is a similar custom to a present sending one in Germany.
Christmas celebrations in The Netherlands are separate from the visit of Sinterklaas!
Christmas Day itself is a much quieter day in The Netherlands, with a Church Service and family meal. Sometimes there is a special Christmas Day 'Sunday School' in the afternoon at the church, where the Christmas Story and other traditional stories are told. These are often the only presents children will get on Christmas Day because they have already received most of their presents on St. Nicholas Day.
On Christmas Eve night, Dutch Children believe that Santa Claus, (who is also called 'Christmas man' / 'Kerstman' to avoid confusion with Sinterklaas!) comes from Lapland in Finland to deliver more presents!
Christmas Day is known as 'Eerste Kerstdag' (first Christmas day) and the day after Christmas is called 'Tweede Kerstdag' (second Christmas day). On the second day people tend to visit their families and big shops are also often open on Tweede Kerstdag. The traditional way to eat with the family is called 'gourmetten', which is a little stove that is put on the table and where everyone prepares their own meal while seated.
Many people in The Netherlands also have a Christmas Tree in their houses.
Is any of this info not true?
For most children in The Netherlands, the most important day during December is 5th December, when Sinterklaas (St. Nicholas) brings them their presents!
St. Nicholas' Day is on the 6th December, but in The Netherlands, the major celebrations are held on the 5th December, St. Nicholas' Eve. The name Santa Claus comes from the name Sinterklaas.
It all starts on the second Saturday of November (the first Saturday after 11th November) when Sinterklaas travels to a city or town in The Netherlands. Dutch tradition says that St. Nicholas lives in Madrid, Spain and every year he chooses a different harbour to arrive in The Netherlands, so as many children as possible get a chance to see him.
Sinterklass travels with his servants called 'Zwarte Pieten' ('Black Peters'). When Sinterklaas and the Black Peters come ashore from the steam boat, all of the local church bells ring in celebration. Sinterklaas, dressed in his red robes, leads a procession through the town, riding a white horse. Every town in The Netherlands has a few Sinterklaas helpers, dressed the same as Sinterklaas who help give the presents out. (And sometimes you might one see one or more Zwarte Pieten with Sinterklaas!)
Children are told that the Zwarte Pieten keep a record of all the things they have done in the past year in a big book. Good children will get presents from Sinterklaas, but bad children will be put in a sack and the Zwarte Pieten take them to Spain for a year to teach them how to behave!
On the evening that Sinterklaas arrives in The Netherlands, children leave a shoe out by the fireplace or sometimes a windowsill and sing Sinterklaas songs. They hope that Sinterklaas will come during the night with some presents. They also believe that if they leave some hay and carrots in their shoes for Sinterklaas's horse, they will be left some sweets or small presents. They're told that, during the night, Sinterklaas rides on the roofs on his horse and that a 'Zwarte Piet' will then climb down the chimney (or through a window) and put the presents and/or candy in their shoes.
In many families the children are told that Sinterklaas and Zwarte Piet make a weekly visit, so the children leave their shoe by the fireplace or window i.e. every Saturday until the main Sinterklaas party on 5th December.
The evening of December 5th is called St. Nicholas’ Eve 'Sinterklaasavond' or 'Pakjesavond' (present evening). The children will receive their presents during the evening. There might be a knock at the door and you might find a sack full of presents!
Sinterklaas parties are often held on St. Nicholas' Eve (5th), where treasure hunt games are played with poems and riddles giving the clues. Children follow the clues to find little presents left by Sinterklaas. Special biscuits and sweets are also eaten at the party. One type of biscuit is called 'letter blanket' or 'banketletter' (meaning letter cake), which is made from marzipan or pastry. The biscuits are made in the shapes of the first letter of the peoples names who are at the party. Another sweet biscuit that is eaten at the parties are 'pepernoot' which are made with cinnamon and spices in the pastry biscuit mix. Here's a recipe for peppernoot. And Here's a recipe for kerstkrans, a Dutch Christmas Ring Cake.
On the 6th of December Sinterklaas (the birthday of Sinterklaas) leaves The Netherlands by steamboat via the entrance of the port of Rotterdam (Europe’s largest port) called the Hook of Holland and he travels back to Spain.
Surprise presents are also given on St. Nicholas' Day. A custom at the Sinterklaas parties, often within classes at schools, is that everyone's name is put into a hat and everyone picks another person's name - then they have to make a surprise present for that person. The presents are often things that the person would find useful with their favorite hobby. The presents come with a poem inside that gives a clue to who might have sent the present, but it is all meant to be a mystery! This is a similar custom to a present sending one in Germany.
Christmas celebrations in The Netherlands are separate from the visit of Sinterklaas!
Christmas Day itself is a much quieter day in The Netherlands, with a Church Service and family meal. Sometimes there is a special Christmas Day 'Sunday School' in the afternoon at the church, where the Christmas Story and other traditional stories are told. These are often the only presents children will get on Christmas Day because they have already received most of their presents on St. Nicholas Day.
On Christmas Eve night, Dutch Children believe that Santa Claus, (who is also called 'Christmas man' / 'Kerstman' to avoid confusion with Sinterklaas!) comes from Lapland in Finland to deliver more presents!
Christmas Day is known as 'Eerste Kerstdag' (first Christmas day) and the day after Christmas is called 'Tweede Kerstdag' (second Christmas day). On the second day people tend to visit their families and big shops are also often open on Tweede Kerstdag. The traditional way to eat with the family is called 'gourmetten', which is a little stove that is put on the table and where everyone prepares their own meal while seated.
Many people in The Netherlands also have a Christmas Tree in their houses.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC triple-posted this 5 years ago, 41 seconds later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,574
Also we, any time that you comment on racial shit, Im going to bring up that you're white and have no say
jodie !foster2PAQ replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,607
dw replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,648
@1,134,567 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> A. I've listened to every Dutch rapper you've posted music from
did you understand them?
> B. You are white and criticize these things. What is the difference?
im dutch
> C. You don't have enough black people to shoot.
where did you get this idea that there are only white people in the netherlands lol
> Also our cops are shit and shoot a variety of races.
yes, but black people are overrepresented.
> It's horrible but changes nothing of what I've said
@1,134,573 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
that is true but sinterklaas is not christmas or really related
> A. I've listened to every Dutch rapper you've posted music from
did you understand them?
> B. You are white and criticize these things. What is the difference?
im dutch
> C. You don't have enough black people to shoot.
where did you get this idea that there are only white people in the netherlands lol
> Also our cops are shit and shoot a variety of races.
yes, but black people are overrepresented.
> It's horrible but changes nothing of what I've said
@1,134,573 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
that is true but sinterklaas is not christmas or really related
dw double-posted this 5 years ago, 2 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,649
@1,134,573 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
it is outdated though since several cities dont have zwarte piet anymore
it is outdated though since several cities dont have zwarte piet anymore
blom replied with this 5 years ago, 7 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,738
I heard zwarte piet is black from all the coal that gets rubbed in his face by sinterklaas
Anonymous D replied with this 5 years ago, 18 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,744
Sheila LaBoof joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 4 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,792
@OP
> I guess he was too controversial
Nope, it was just automated software fuckup. 71 posts later on this fuckin thread
> I guess he was too controversial
Nope, it was just automated software fuckup. 71 posts later on this fuckin thread