Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 7 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,129,592
@previous (dw)
They are not formally trained to do that. They do it because they are assholes and almost never face any direct personal consequences for being murderers.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,129,598
@1,129,593 (dw)
They are trained in proper ways to restrain people that do not risk injury or death. They are often poorly trained and do not view the people they are policing as fully human, especially when the people they are policing are black. They don't really care if they are doing a good job because there are no consequences personally if they do a bad job. Even if they get sued successfully, the City pays the court judgement. If the cop gets fired, he will be re-hired at some other PD somewhere else within a couple months. Idk, cops are bad, man.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 2 hours later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,129,618
Police should be trained only to politely ask the innocent until proven gentlemen to please stay still and obey their directives.
Anything else is excessive and cruel.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 20 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,129,623
@previous (A)
George Floyd was handcuffed and laying on the ground when Officer Derek Chauvin placed his knee on his neck for nine consecutive minutes. After three minutes George Floyd had repeatedly said he couldn't breathe. A crowd of onlookers gathered and begged the cop to get off of him. An EMT with the fire department was nearby and told him to ease up. Derek Chauvin refused. George Floyd continued to find breathing difficult, and begged for mercy. He cried and asked for his mother. Officer Chauvin did not relent. George Floyd died. Officer Chauvin continued to leave his knee on his neck for several more minutes. This is heinous murder and if you cannot admit that you are beneath contempt.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 5 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,129,631
@previous (A)
Are you currently suffering from severe brain damage? This cop murdered a fucking guy in broad daylight. Unless you were prepared to kill the cop and his partner, any violence you inflicted on the cop would be returned with lethal force by him and his partner.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 6 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,129,637
@previous (jodie !foster2PAQ)
I am thinking of just giving him this one for him to contain his thoughts and then deleting any new ones. He needs to fumble around towards the truth somehow.
jodie !foster2PAQ replied with this 5 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,129,639
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
cool. isn't it wild how dense he is
isn't this a wild time. did you see Trump's new campaign ad A BULL IN THE CHINA SHOP
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 7 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,129,643
@previous (jodie !foster2PAQ)
He may be genuinely the dumbest person I've ever interacted with. We have a several dumb users and I've met some dumb people IRL but holy shit.
No I didn't see his new ad but I am unsurprised by his lack of subtlety. Not sure attacking China is a winning strategy really but he can't run on the economy or his handling of the virus or his delicate handling of racial issues so maybe he thinks it's the best thing he's got left? It's really weak. Not like Biden is exceptionally soft on China, and Trump has so many damn tweets like this. It's a losing play.
> Why didn't that guy standing there running his yap run up and kick the cop in his face instead of standing there and saying- > > ' Come on,Bro' 163 times?
Have you ever assaulted a police officer? Especially while others were there? Try it sometime and you'll have an answer to this question. This question actually shows that the guy saying "Come on Bro" has more sense than you.
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 5 years ago, 4 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,129,903
@previous (K)
Forgive me if this is a dumb post, but why did they go for CNN? I would assume that CNN, as a liberal station, is also disavowing the murder.
Obviously the rioters aren't a unified force or even uniformly in it for the Floyd protest, but CNN still seems like an odd target.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 55 seconds later, 19 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,129,907
@1,129,903 (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
I mean...it's CNN. They're sensational and center left at best (I wish there were actual quality left wing cable news stations). These protestors are well to the left of CNN's audience.
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 5 years ago, 3 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,129,910
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
I don't really know the particulars of America's news stations, tbh. I'd sort of assumed that CNN is quite left wing because of the overwhelming vitriol Trump supporters direct towards them. However, I think I'll trust your word over any number of them.
jodie !foster2PAQ replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 20 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,129,930
@previous (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
no American politics are just f'd. cnn sucks ass
they gave piers Morgan his own show a few years ago
that's cnn
This came just hours after black CNN reporter Omar Jimenez was arrested on live on air Friday morning by Minnesota State Patrol while covering the Minneapolis protests. Jimenez was put in handcuffs and led away from his team of producers this morning at 5.11am CT after the team was moved down the street by police in riot gear.
According to one of his colleagues, the crew was told he was being arrested for refusing to move when he'd been told to but he was heard live on air telling the officers: 'Put us back to where you want us - wherever you'd want us we'll go. Just let us know.'
Jimenez told them they were live on air with CNN and was put in handcuffs. The Atlanta protest began peacefully before it descended into chaos when some demonstrators hurled bricks, bottles and milk cartons at police cruisers.
You can just Google search for "Omar Jimenez" and fact find for yourself if you want some "fair and balanced" details. Or check his Twitter.
This wasn't exactly about CNN. Or the CNN network. The people sitting atop the CNN logo were doing so because they figured it would be covered, if anything. It is a fun irony, but only funny because they knew if they had been sitting atop a FOXNews sign they would have been beaten to death or shot without a scrap footage making it to air.
Anonymous L replied with this 5 years ago, 12 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,129,976
@1,129,972 (dw)
It's a meme about CNN pouring CNN on itself. I'm not sure what the fuck that has to with anything or how it pertains to the story at hand, but maybe we can all pretend it's funny. Maybe it makes some kind of statement about... something. Maybe about how Anon J doesn't understand what's happening? I can only assume that it's performance art or some juvenile attempt at being political. Who knows.
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 5 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,129,979
@1,129,970 (J)
Mate, just because CNN is being discussed doesn't mean that a dank meme about CNN sabotaging itself is relevant. The context of the conversation is important.
This just makes you seem like some kind of mindless robot, rather than the charming political memester that I know you are. :(
Anonymous L replied with this 5 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,129,981
@1,129,978 (J)
Access to guns in Minnesota is plentiful. I bet there's no looting there.
And as part of the American South, Georgia is notoriously a gun-free state. Maybe more gun ownership in Georgia will help solve the problem. I bet if all those looters had ready access to guns, this would be a peaceful, more respectful kind of looting.
In those pussy-ass states like California or New York, you can expect uprisings... Or beta-male pussies obeying lockdown. It's hard to say one way or the other, but I'll know which thing to blame the liberals for when FOX News shows me footage.
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 5 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,129,983
@1,129,978 (J) @previous (J)
Good, these are more relevant and should elicit the anger you're after rather than confusion and ridicule.
If you'd like, I could coach you on an ongoing basis on how to troll the fora. My rates are very reasonable.
@1,129,981 (L) > I bet if all those looters had ready access to guns, this would be a peaceful, more respectful kind of looting.
I do remember reports of some looters queuing during the London riots. They didn't have gun, though.
So perhaps what's needed to attain a more civilised kind of looter is an ingrained sense of manners, rather than plentiful firearms. ?
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,130,025
@previous (A)
Getting aroused at the sight of death is a sign of severe mental unwellness. You may want to check yourself into a mental health facility until your current mental health crisis passes.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,130,031
@previous (A)
Ok so why not say "Looters should be arrested and prosecuted."
It seems almost like people who complain about "law and order" really just want to fantasize about extrajudicially executing minorities. Really makes you think.
Anonymous K replied with this 5 years ago, 29 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,130,058
The fact that 40% of cops are reported domestic abusers, and the fact that Derek Chauvin's wife chose the night he was in protective custody to file for divorce are certainly two facts from which one could draw an interesting theory.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 27 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,130,085
@1,130,056 (J) @1,130,057 (J)
Wait so is it black people looting and burning while white liberals cheer them on, or is it white radicals looting and burning while black people tell them to stop? You are careening wildly between two very different narratives.
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 5 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,130,087
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
I'm unsure if he's just reposting random provacotive things here to get a reaction, or is he's just so far gone that he believes it all wholesale.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,130,118
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
In the 60s, southern and conservative whites thought the jews were behind the Civil rights movement because they could not otherwise reconcile a world in which their theories about black people's intellectual inferiority and the reality of powerful black mass organizing were true. The nefarious force orchestrating it all were the jews. Nowadays nothing has changed except the players and the methods of communication. It's global instead of being localized to the US, and it's being shared with shitpost-y memes and a lot of irony instead of pamphlets books and newsletters. George Soros is kind of a stand-in for all jews everywhere. Its so tiresome to see the exact same tropes be repeated for literal decades.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,130,131
The more you know.
The cop restraining Floyd knew this guy had worked as a bouncer. Floyd was a big guy that was tougher handcuffed than a lot of people are not handcuffed.
Floyd was reported to be intoxicated and acting erratically by witnesses who first reported him to police.
Not quite the good boy didunffin guy targeted by cops for harrassment.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 5 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,130,134
That's what trials are for. To gather all the details and carefully consider everything about what happened, not just 1 or 2 things which one side blurts out and says that's what means someone is guilty of something.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,130,167
@1,130,149 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Yes he gets to get the 2 for 1 here. He gets to say jews are behind everything. He also gets to point out how Bill de Blasio has said things about jews that he thinks Republicans/right wingers would get called antisemitic for saying. It's a real 1-2 punch I guess if you give a shit about Bill de Blasio (I don't and voted for Sal Albanese in 2017).
Anonymous P joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,130,191
Had three flash bangs go off near my car and had tear gas shot off near me. People were running through traffic trying to get inside peoples cars and get free rides away from the riot control police. Thankfully got out quickly. Riot tourism is not a toy folks
Anonymous P double-posted this 5 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,130,192
Didn’t get any good pics cause I was driving and my passenger didn’t take very good ones. Wish they had taken a video instead. Anyway, from La Mesa in SD County
Anonymous K replied with this 5 years ago, 50 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,130,198
@1,130,152 (A)
Such an excellent smack down that just about every authority figure I've seen has been saying "there are way the fuck more of them than there are us" to such an extent they're getting authority-cucked by the National fucking Guard, which fucked up Katrina so bad that they're a joke too.
Oh good! Bill Barr smells a conspiracy of collusion to create chaos! We shouldn't be so hasty to assign guilt or convict people in the public court of opinion though. No one in the US is guilty until proven so in a court of law! Maybe we can have three years of hidden investigations until someone these "leftist groups" has appointed to kill the investigations finally comes out and tells Bill Barr that the unavailable classified investigation he can't see totally exonerates all leftist groups everywhere. And then they could refuse to release fuck-all in the way of proof to back up those statements until forced to do so by a court. Then maybe they could just release a heavily redacted version. That would be great. And then we could all talk about how that might have happened four years from now. The wheels of justice are slow and I think that sort of "proof" counts as "justice" in Bill Barr's world.
After all, innocent until proven guilty every time!
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 13 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#1,130,234
@1,130,184 (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
Unless the police officer's knee was a drug, he did not die from a drug overdose. @1,130,228 (A)
Something like this?
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#1,130,242
@previous (A)
I have not seen the coroner's report. Feel free to link it if you have seen it. Even if he had drugs present, you can be on drugs (say alcohol), die from oxygen and blood cut off to your brain (say by having a cop kneel on your neck for 9 consecutive minutes) and not have your cause of death be "drug overdose" or "alcohol poisoning" or whatever.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 12 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#1,130,248
@1,130,244 (K)
Sad but true! @previous (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
His criminal record is not why he was killed by the cops. It's totally irrelevant and just a distraction. Any crimes he committed he had already served prison time for. Nothing can justify what happened to him, and you know it.
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 5 years ago, 8 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#1,130,250
Oh, Trump phoned the guy's brother. It went as well as you'd expect.
At the White House on Friday, Donald Trump said he had spoken to the family of George Floyd, the 46-year-old African American man who was killed during an arrest by police officers in Minneapolis this week.
“I just expressed my sorrow,” Trump said, adding “that was a horrible thing to witness” and saying it “looked like there was no excuse” for Floyd’s death
But according to Floyd’s brother, Philonise Floyd, the conversation did not go well, as he said Trump gave him little chance to express his views and appeared to have no interest in what he was trying to say.
“He didn’t give me an opportunity to even speak,” Floyd told MSNBC on Saturday. “It was hard. I was trying to talk to him, but he just kept, like, pushing me off, like ‘I don’t want to hear what you’re talking about.’
“And I just told him, I want justice. I said that I couldn’t believe that they committed a modern-day lynching in broad daylight.”
DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew replied with this 5 years ago, 7 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#1,130,251
@1,130,248 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU) @previous (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
Guy with a long criminal record fights cops for 10 minutes, gets restrained (I don't support the brutality which was used to restrain him) dies few hours later in the ER.
Burning down and looting whole cities seems like an appropriate response to such a mishandled arrest.
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 5 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#1,130,253
@previous (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
I'm not fond of looting or arson either, I think that's a fairly normal stance. I would hope that murder would draw similarly universal condemnation.
> (I don't support the brutality which was used to restrain him)
Cool, but it sure seemed like you were making excuses for it when you brought up his criminal record and claimed (without evidence) that he died of an OD and not the knee on his neck.
DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew replied with this 5 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#1,130,256
@1,130,253 (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
It's a silly situation that got hyped up for whatever reason with a lot of stuff left out or barely mentioned (like the fact that he didn't die on the spot but hours later at the ER, but yeah, some might say "that's just when they gave up fighting for his suffocated body" and it's a fair point, but it was made to look like he was announced dead on the spot, murdered in cold blood).
I'll say the same thing I say over and over again, the truth shall set you free. If there's one thing I hate, it's manipulating emotions and withholding facts to push your narrative and justify, in this case, burning down a whole fucking city.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 32 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#1,130,259
@1,130,251 (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
He didn't die a few hours later at the ER. He was pronounced dead an hour later. An officer on the scene felt for his pulse and didn't find one. He didn't have a pulse in the ambulance. This video is a good timeline of what happened. Try to find the resisting of the arrest. There is barely any. We're still waiting for the autopsy report but it all happened quickly, and he was basically already dead or irreversibly on his way to dying when he was placed in the ambulance.
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 5 years ago, 8 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#1,130,264
@1,130,256 (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew) > that got hyped up for whatever reason
I don't think the reasons for the outrage are too mysterious, mate. Police brutality against black people has been an issue in America for a while now, and this was a particularly egregious case, with a video clearly showing sustained and unnecessary police brutality. Even if he did die later (which Fake anon says the evidence disputes), the officer's actions were still very wrong.
Again, I don't agree with the rioters, I'm a fan of non-violent protests. But I do think it's somewhat telling that you think this is people overreacting, or acting at the behest of a "narrative", rather than it being genuine and justified anger at what happened.
DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew replied with this 5 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#1,130,286
@1,130,259 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Thanks for doing my job :) as the video shows, at 8:14 they try to put him into the car. How long can that take? Apparently 6+ minutes when you have a well behaving suspect. No struggle tho, just cops being lazy...
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#1,130,289
@previous (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
I mean there are 4 cops on scene. If 4 cops cannot put a man into a car, and instead choose to kneel on his neck for 9 minutes, they are fundamentally incompetent and shouldn't be cops. You know this. If you don't I recommend finding a man and having him kneel on your neck for nine consecutive minutes.
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 5 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#1,130,294
@1,130,286 (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
I thought you "don't support the brutality which was used to restrain him"? But now you seem to be back to saying that this brutality was justified?
You can't have your cake and eat it, lad. Either the brutality was wrong or it wasn't. You can't really say you disavow it but then try to cast doubt by suggesting that Floyd brought it on himself.
> I mean there are 4 cops on scene. If 4 cops cannot put a man into a car, and instead choose to kneel on his neck for 9 minutes, they are fundamentally incompetent and shouldn't be cops.
That's a very common thing to happen, especially if the cops are being as gentle as all the whiners demand them to be with criminals.
DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#1,130,321
@1,130,289 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Lol, you know very well that it's nearly impossible to put someone into a car if they are resisting. 4 limbs to push against a narrow entry hole... and please don't say "4 police officers" because if all 4 tried to put him in the car, they would be stepping on each others toes and hindering each other. Even if there were 100 cops, one, max two could handle him at a time while 98 standing aside, so please FA.
@1,130,294 (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
I still don't support it, but I'm simply stating facts. He wasn't the innocent man that cooperated but got killed for his skin color.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#1,130,326
@1,130,321 (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
He is handcuffed. Every day cops put uncooperative suspects into the back of a squad car. If four of these cops could not do that, and the best solution they could come up with in the meanwhile is to kneel on his neck for nine minutes, they are fundamentally incapable of doing their job and should never have been cops in the first place.
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 5 years ago, 11 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#1,130,333
@1,130,321 (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
But those facts aren't relevant, his behaviour beforehand doesn't really have any bearing on the policeman proceeding to get him on the ground and crouch on his neck for 9 minutes. It doesn't change the wrongness of the act or invalidate the outrage around it.
I'll assume the best here and guess you're saying this out of a distaste for (in your view) the media and public assuming Flyod was an innocent man who did nothing wrong, while the police did it entirely unprovoked.
...But when you keep bringing that up and emphasising it, it comes across a lot like you're saying that him resisting justifies the cop murdering him, or that people shouldn't be so upset about it.
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE double-posted this 5 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#1,130,334
@1,130,324 (J)
You should try participating in the conversation yourself, rather than just reposting things from /r/TheDonald (or wherever you're getting this stuff) and spouting generic right-wing talking points.
Anonymous J replied with this 5 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#1,130,338
@1,130,334 (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
The Left’s goal is to pressure Trump to authorize the national guard to fire on the rioters—thereby proving he’s a murderous tyrant.
They don’t care how many Black neighborhoods must burn in the process.
Anonymous K replied with this 5 years ago, 8 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#1,130,340
@previous (J)
Oh that's a batshit conspiracy that I haven't heard before. It does kind of require that you not know that of the 12 times the National Guard was called to march against US citizens, 8 of those times were to quell segregation protests, 2 were over police violence, and one was after MLK was assassinated. But I guess the facts don't care about your feelings enough, so it's a leftist lie, or whatever.
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 5 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#1,130,341
@1,130,338 (J)
Mate, I think these websites you go on have completely warped your mind. This isn't realistic, there isn't some unified leftist conspiracy trying to kill people for a false flag.
tteh !MemesToDNA replied with this 5 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#1,130,342
@previous (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
Oh, it's just some nonsense he's copypasted. You can tell because it uses the fancy left single quote (’) instead of (') and the em dash (—) instead of (-); his other character flaws aside, he's no Macfag.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#1,130,344
@1,130,338 (J)
If their evil plan is to bait Trump into issuing an illegal order, then literally all he has to do is nothing and he wins. Since he is a stable genius, he will succeed easily. That's a terrible evil secret plan wtf. SOROS I DEMAND YOU HAVE BETTER EVIL SECRET PLANS THIS IS AN AWFUL ONE!
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 54 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#1,130,346
@previous (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
97% of what he posts is just copypasted from elsewhere but it is more or less what he believes as far as I can tell.
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 5 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#1,130,348
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Probably. I couldn't see anyone being this deeply plugged into the alt-right internet sphere while actually being a political moderate who's just there for trolling material.
I still wish he'd put forward his own arguments, though. This is like interacting with some weird Frankenstein's monster made up of TheDonald posts. It's just slightly unsettling tbh.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 9 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#1,130,355
@previous (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
Yeah he's basically a semi-sapient alt-right meme posting bot. No original thoughts to speak of, but lots of different combinations of things other people think. Sad really but he's been so broken by spending his life online. Not everyone can handle permanently being on the internet like us.
Coil E. Leafeon !!KKlJgsBn+ replied with this 5 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#1,130,462
@1,130,386 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
We’ve heard a Lot about what MAGA says lately, but does anyone remember what the 6th and 8th amendments say? Do those apply here?
Anonymous R replied with this 5 years ago, 14 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#1,130,468
@1,130,462 (Coil E. Leafeon !!KKlJgsBn+)
Amendment VI > In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.
Amendment VII > Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#1,130,470
@1,130,467 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
If your mom owned a shop she had worked her ass off for years to feed and raise you in your childhood and a bunch of whooping loudmouth punks ran through and looted it and smashed everything, would you say the same thing as she sat there crying?
Anonymous L replied with this 5 years ago, 6 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#1,130,513
@previous (A) > It really takes a lot to find the "whooping loudmouth punks" the perpetrators here.
Well, we're all innocent until proven guilty, you uneducated fuckhat. The Impeached-Ass-Fuck-In-Charge said so himself. So did his appointed Ass-Hat-Of-Justice-Shit Mr. Barr.
But, honestly, in your imaginary scenario where your dear mother tore her heart out and worked her ass off for years to feed and raise you in your childhood... Where is that? Is that in a Target? Is that in a Walmart? Is that in some imaginary small business that hand-wavy bullshit? I'm sure there are some small business owners who are impacted. That's great. We can address that.
That's really not the point though, is it, fuckhead? You just want someone to imagine your mom running a business? That's nice. That's noble and all, except you're a FUCKING TOOL. STOP MAKING UP FAKE NEWS STORIES.
Anonymous K replied with this 5 years ago, 2 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#1,130,682
@1,130,545 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Does the thousands people are bringing in from crowdfunding to fix their small businesses not count as addressing that to you, or does it not matter because they're owned by black people?
Sheila LaBoof joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 12 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#1,130,691
who was the shithead who claimed that Floyd had only died because of coincidentally having a heart attack while being kneed in the neck? The autopsy said it was asphyxiation, retard
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 5 years ago, 23 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#1,130,695
@1,130,682 (K)
Unless it covers everything, no
I've seen two black guys breaking down on camera because the the life's work was destroyed
This is reprehensible
Anonymous K replied with this 5 years ago, 15 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#1,130,757
@1,130,729 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
What're you gonna do about it then, keep replying in anger? Or are you going to go call the police on some nig- "rioters" so you can nut?
WSD !m2cp3rR5zw replied with this 5 years ago, 39 seconds later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#1,130,764
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Without fuel they were nothing. They'd built a house of straw. The thundering machines sputtered and stopped. Their leaders talked and talked and talked, but nothing could stem the avalanche. Their world crumbled. Cities exploded — a whirlwind of looting, a firestorm of fear. Men began to feed on men.
Anonymous K replied with this 5 years ago, 6 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#1,130,790
@previous (R) > implying the wifebeating pigs descended from an organization meant to catch escaped slaves ever had any reaason to exist beyond protecting white peoples' interests
DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew replied with this 5 years ago, 17 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#1,130,826
@1,130,691 (Sheila LaBoof)
Died from a heart attack, had a heart diseases, was high on fentanyl and recently used meth.
Spin it however you want. Also, this is a grab from the second privately paid autopsy report. But move the goalpost and tell me how the knee to the neck caused it all.
DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew replied with this 5 years ago, 10 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#1,130,834
@previous (K)
First it was that he died from suffocation, now it will be knee induced heart attack. His heard disease and drugs will be ignored and won't be stated anywhere.
> Died from a heart attack, had a heart diseases, was high on fentanyl and recently used meth. > > Spin it however you want. Also, this is a grab from the second privately paid autopsy report. But move the goalpost and tell me how the knee to the neck caused it all.
So if he was standing around getting all the air he needed, he would have dropped dead at the same time just coincidentally. Go fuck yourself you shitstain.
"please, please, I can't breathe" *maintains knee on neck until well past dead*
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 5 years ago, 2 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#1,130,862
The medical examiner's report came in:
A medical examiner has classified George Floyd’s death as a homicide, saying his heart stopped as police restrained him and suppressed his neck.
“Decedent experienced a cardiopulmonary arrest while being restrained by law enforcement officer(s),” the Hennepin county medical examiner’s office said in a news release. Cause of death was listed as cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint and neck compression.
Under “other significant conditions”, it said, Floyd suffered from heart disease and hypertension, and listed fentanyl intoxication and recent methamphetamine use.
@1,130,834 (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
Note the last paragraph in the article I linked. This is a major left-wing source noting that the examiner noted the drug use.
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE double-posted this 5 years ago, 5 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#1,130,863
@1,130,826 (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew) @1,130,834 (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
Sheep, I'd really like an answer here, why are you so hung up on the semantics of his death? The examiner's report has said that it was murder, there's no getting around that. The anger around his death is still quite justified.
The exact terminology for how the knee killed him, and his drug usage, do not matter. It doesn't change anything about what that cop did being a murder and a use of excessive force.
Again, if you think there's a media conspiracy to leave out these details to somehow make him look better, I've linked to an article of a big left-wing source noting his drug usage.
> First it was that he died from suffocation, now it will be knee induced heart attack. His heard disease and drugs will be ignored and won't be stated anywhere.
If you clearly tell me you have a lethal allergy to nuts ("I can't breathe") and I put some nut extract in your food (kneel on your neck for 8 minutes), it won't mitigate murder because you were susceptible to dying that way.
tteh !MemesToDNA replied with this 5 years ago, 33 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#1,130,899
@1,130,834 (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
Maybe he was dying from a drug overdose at that very moment anyway, and his neck being knelt on for 9 minutes was but incidental. ?
The Episcopal bishop of Washington DC has said she is “outraged” after officers used teargas to clear a crowd of peaceful protesters from near the White House to make way for Donald Trump.
Minutes after speaking in the Rose Garden about the importance of “law and order” to quell the unrest over the killing of George Floyd by Minneapolis police, Trump walked across the street to St John’s Episcopal church, where every American president since James Madison has worshipped.
But not before police used teargas and force to clear the streets for Trump’s photo opportunity.
Once he arrived at St John’s, Trump held up a Bible that read “God is love”, while posing in front of the church’s sign.
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE double-posted this 5 years ago, 4 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#1,130,918
More detailed article. As well as teargas, these peaceful protesters were also attacked with rubber bullets and flash-bangs. It's like something out of a third-world dictatorship. "Glorious leader needs this place to give a speech! Disperse the citizens by force!"
In a highly choreographed move, the president gave brief remarks in the White House Rose Garden on Monday while, a short distance away, military police and law enforcement suddenly used teargas, rubber bullets and flash-bangs to chase away demonstrators protesting against the death of George Floyd.
TV footage showed people running, falling and scrambling for safety as officers removed them by force. One woman was carried away by fellow protesters because she was injured and unable to walk. Military vehicles rolled out on Pennsylvania Avenue.
The unprovoked action cleared the way for Trump to cross the street and visit St John’s church, which since 1816 has been the “Church of the Presidents”, and where a fire burned in the basement amid unrest on Sunday night. He held aloft a Bible and posed for cameras, and was then joined by the attorney general, William Barr, and other officials, including the White House press secretary, Kayleigh McEnany.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 3 hours later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,131,100
As protests were taking place in multiple states across the U.S. Sunday night, t @ANTIFA_US, tweeted, “Tonight’s the night, Comrades,” with a brown raised fist emoji and “Tonight we say 'F--- The City' and we move into the residential areas... the white hoods.... and we take what's ours …”
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 39 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,131,167
CNN talking nonstop about potential charges (special announcement expected soon) the other cops involved also suggesting charges against main cop to be upgraded.
No doubt they all have raging erections hoping the outcome will be no more charges and they can blame white supremacist Trump and help win the election for Sleepy Creepy Biden.
Anonymous K replied with this 5 years ago, 30 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,131,172
@previous (A)
That's right, this was all about Biden, that dude whose suggestion for handling protests was to shoot unarmed people in the limbs instead of the head. That's what it's all about, Bert, you solved it.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 5 years ago, 4 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,131,174
@1,131,144 (K)
Its moving goal posts to expect solidarity to follow unity? Being white and the only person kneeling makes him look like he is virtue signalling
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 5 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,131,190
@1,131185 (K)
You're the one that seems triggered. This is about a specific incident and it didn't happen in Europe. Also I don't see the police buying Hitler's home and turning it into something useful, as an evil act
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 12 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,131,215
@previous (K)
I can't see abolition, at least not in the next 20 years. If dems win house senate and preaidency in 2020 you will see some big police reform bill. Keep an eye on whatever comes out the Congressional Black Caucus in the coming weeks, that'll be a very strong precursor to the bill that passes in '21. Most people think that police treat minorities unjustly now, which is a HUGE polling swing, but most also like their local cops.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,131,221
@previous (tteh !MemesToDNA)
Anything below 4% is usually safe to treat as just noise. That's just someone picking at random, saying anything to get off the phone etc.
Anonymous K replied with this 5 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,131,222
@1,131,215 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Yeah, it's a long ways off still, but it's still possible. Minneapolis specifically will probably wind up being a leader here, being the center and having people pushing legitimate policy changes @ reclaimtheblock even before Floyd was murdered.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 8 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,131,223
@previous (K)
Yeah I should clarify. I dont see it happening nationwide any time soon. I could see super left-y cities or large towns experiment with this at a local level. My guess is it will not be full abolition, but more a gradual transferring of funds from cops to community-based welfare orgs, which I generally support.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 11 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,131,245
@1,131,241 (A)
I mean full on abilition immediately would mean all city budgets allocate $0 for cops, they shut down all precincts etc. Which I think is absolutely not remotely a good idea. I think generally beginning to take power away from cops and give it to people without guns whose first instinct is to fix problems peacefully is a good idea. I cannot tell yoy the number of times I'll see like 5 cops on scene with lights flashing because some homeless dude is sleeping on a bench somewhere. Unless you can arrest the idea of homelessness, what you probably should be doing is sending people to him that will help him find both temporary and long term housing security. There are occasionally "units" inside police departments that handle this but there is absolutely no reason to continue that practice.
Meta !Sober//iZs joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 43 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,131,257
Can someone redpill me on how looting and burning small businesses that had nothing to do with the Floyd thing brings justice? ?
Like burning the Minneapolis police station, I get that. It makes a lot of sense. Burning the Cup Foods store that called the cops on Floyd, I get that too. But burning random businesses that had zero to do with any of this makes no fucking sense.
Anonymous K replied with this 5 years ago, 31 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,131,268
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
It's the same as a worker's strike, mechanically. Shut things down, and you get results. It was days after an aviator's strike that the 2019 shutdown ended and it was just 6 days of continuous rioting after MLK's assassination that brought the Civil Rights Act of 1968 into existence. Like, buildings can be rebuilt, but people don't come back.
Also, it's a LOT of white people lashing out and cops planting bait to justify escalation. Jake Paul went to protests just to loot, and cops will just leave out conspicuous pallets of bricks with the hopes that protestors will use them for the thing that protestors use bricks for.
Anonymous K double-posted this 5 years ago, 8 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,131,269
Literally the only downside to normies organizing is that every resource or tactic is couched in "it sure would be a shame if someone jammed the police scanners" facetiousness that is just fucking dreadful to read every time. Just tell me to get some buckets to cover tear gas with. It's not that hard. They don't need to deny their activity online or whatever, they're going to get shot at by cops either way.
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 5 years ago, 5 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,131,272
@1,131,270 (V)
Oversimplifying. The anti-lockdown protestors were literally just out there because they were trying to downplay how dangerous the virus is, because they were either misinformed or deluded. Not a good reason to be out.
I don't agree with the looters/rioters/vandals. But otherwise, the peaceful protestors are out there to protest a longstanding and important social issue, and they sort of have to strike whole the iron is hot after Floyd was murdered.
I don't really like that they're breaking lockdown and probably spreading the virus a bit, sure, but I think they still have a good reason to be doing what they're doing.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 45 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,131,281
These Protests are a win-win.
Either these massive crowds will mean all the right people will get the coronavirus and we'll be rid of them...or the massive crowds won't get coronavirus and that will show us that no more of this stupid hide from your own shadow virus fear porn needs to be worried about.
> These Protests are a win-win. > > Either these massive crowds will mean all the right people will get the coronavirus and we'll be rid of them...or the massive crowds won't get coronavirus and that will show us that no more of this stupid hide from your own shadow virus fear porn needs to be worried about.
Wait, aren't you Bert? If so, you were the one demanding the lockdown be enforced and extended for as long as possible (presumably to give you a valid reason to be a layabout). Now you're calling it "hide from your shadow fear porn"??
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 5 years ago, 5 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,131,315
@1,131,272 (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
As a libertarian I could see a principled "we know the virus is dangerous but it's our right to go outside and expose ourselves if we want" attitude toward the lockdown.
I myself think it's largely pointless because people still have to congregate in grocery stores.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 41 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,131,331
Let's dig Floyd up after they bury him and then you asshole mods can take turns fucking his black corpse while you Frenchkiss each other and hum some fag Elton John or Queen song.
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 5 years ago, 18 minutes later, 6 days after the original post[^][v]#1,131,381
@previous (tteh !MemesToDNA)
Huh, that's unexpected. I would've expected him to react like Bert or Sheep, and try to cast doubt on it. Then again, Trump also disavowed the actual murder too.
“The Rolex store is empty,” a police source said. “They stole like $2.4 million in Rolexes.” But the store’s spokesman said “no watches of any kind were stolen, as there weren’t any on display in the store. There were simply windows broken and some vitrines smashed.”
Anonymous K double-posted this 5 years ago, 3 hours later, 6 days after the original post[^][v]#1,131,481
Breonna Taylor's case has been reopened and the LAPD has cut almost $150,000,000 from their budget. How do people who concern-troll with "protests aren't the way to get what you want" account for the fact that these protests are working?
Anonymous K replied with this 5 years ago, 36 minutes later, 6 days after the original post[^][v]#1,131,508
@1,131,498 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
I know this is a difficult idea for you specifically but most people can hold more than one thing in their brain at a time.
Anonymous L replied with this 5 years ago, 13 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,131,712
@1,130,545 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC) > If small businesses are being ruined, "that's great, we can address that" lmao wtf
Hilariously, that was actually the response from a local business owner. Sorry if that's been addressed somewhere else in the thread. I've been away doing IRL shit for a while.
@1,131,498 (Meta !Sober//iZs) > I guess the riots are the end of social distancing/COVID fear?
I don't know. You should ask the rioters. Among the protests, at least most of them that I've seen, that's certainly not true. Some are staying apart and wearing masks. Some are sitting in parks six feet apart on the lawn of city hall and look like really big yoga classes. There are still plenty of people trying to exercise their constitutional right to protest while maintaining social distancing. I know. I know. Someone will say, "but what about this clip I found on YouTube?!?!" and try to pretend like that's a magical exemplar of all protests everywhere. Unfortunately, that's wrong. There are people who are more passionate about this cause than they are worried about dying from a global pandemic. Maybe that says something about their desperation.
> No one really seems that concerned about COVID anymore.
That might be true if you're an ostrich or if someone is intentionally disregarding the obvious in order to try to sell a narrative. Otherwise, no. I don't think, "no one really seems that concerned about COVID anymore" sounds like an informed statement anyone would make. I can find loads of people concerned about it with a simple Google search or by just walking down my street.
Anonymous L replied with this 5 years ago, 29 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,131,723
@previous (A)
Really? That's the best you can muster? I was hoping for a real response from someone with an opinion. That's kind of why I cited those those people who weren't you.
dw replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,131,777
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
According to that list that angry anon posted (which I can only assume is well researched and 100% factual) most of the businesses are mcdonalds and Starbucks etc
Anonymous K replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,131,795
@1,131,781 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Oh, you've seen multiple videos, goddamn. Truly you have the most insight into the situation, I mean, multiple videos. Not one video, but multiple.
Anonymous R replied with this 5 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,132,171
@1,132,110 (K)
This is going to be interesting to see how this plays out. I could see this working on smaller cities but this is a major city. Sounds good on paper.
Anonymous K replied with this 5 years ago, 54 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,132,205
> There's this double move people who oppose abolition of police/prisons like to do. First they'll say "abolitionists clearly haven't thought it through". Then if you point them to people like Ruth Wilson Gilmore and Angela Davis, they'll switch to "most working-class black people don't want this it's just academics". And if you then point to organizing on the ground in black and brown communities, they switch back to the former. "Unserious!1". But the truth is that the organizing and the research work are totally intertwined and the academics leading on this are deeply rooted in it. People will say "you can't get white people in small towns on board if you talk about racism," so you point to protests in eastern Kentucky and then "they aren't representative!". You point to a massive multiracial protest in Philadelphia and that too becomes unrepresentative. But here's the thing I learned in writing a book about social movements: the grinding on the ground goes unnoticed for so long, and then suddenly material conditions shift and an idea that seemed fringe breaks through. So yes, it is true that not everyone who marched yesterday is committed to the "the real movement which abolishes the present state of things," to steal a line from Marx. Yet consciousness changes in real time, in response to the conditions of the world. I believe in the movement with all my heart and i'd absolutely never have guessed that 54 percent of Americans would have at least somewhat approved of burning down a police station! Yet here we are.
Anonymous L replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,132,260
@1,131,781 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC) > I've seen multiple videos of small businesses owners sobbing over their ruined property. I have no idea of percentages
Would percentages matter? Would that make a difference? I mean is there an X percent of people complaining about property damage that would it make it okay? It's probably not okay. (Well, we could dive into the history of those 'small business' owners and find some shit about them jogging around construction sites, stealing a pack of gum when they were 12, or buying skittles with fake 20s or something and make a bunch of hay about how they probably deserved it, but that would be largely wide of the point.) Maybe there is a larger thing happening though.
Maybe if X percent of people decide to rise up and demonstrate about a problem they see in their community, then maybe we should take that at least as seriously as some videos we saw.
We should probably refrain from hurting other people or damaging property entirely. Sometimes shit happens. Sometimes it happens for a greater reason that we can't control. At least with property damage, it can be repaired or rebuilt. We should probably strive for not having to do that to make a point. Plenty of local businesses have turned to crowdfunding and had a lot of support from the local people for rebuilding the shit their insurance wouldn't cover. It's still a tragedy but, between the pandemic and the curfews, it's not like local restaurants were enjoying a heyday of profit and customers.
And, by and large, the events in Minneapolis didn't set off a string of violent lootings across the nation. Major US cities are mostly just fine. They aren't lawless hellscapes awash in flames. The events in Minneapolis set off a string of largely peaceful protests across the nation where people assembled to petition the government for a redress of grievances. If you haven't seen the stories about Minneapolis, New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, or other large cities where the people assembled to address the fact that public policy regarding the police needs to be changed, I would encourage you to look at those and learn about what is going on and the reforms that people are demanding. If anything is American democracy in action. If anything, it embodies the people coming to their elected officials with clear demands about problems they want solved.
Yes, the people in Minneapolis had to run the fucking police out of town to make a point. Maybe that's a symptom of a larger problem we have to address.
> > I've seen multiple videos of small businesses owners sobbing over their ruined property. I have no idea of percentages > Would percentages matter? Would that make a difference? I mean is there an X percent of people complaining about property damage that would it make it okay? It's probably not okay. (Well, we could dive into the history of those 'small business' owners and find some shit about them jogging around construction sites, stealing a pack of gum when they were 12, or buying skittles with fake 20s or something and make a bunch of hay about how they probably deserved it, but that would be largely wide of the point.) Maybe there is a larger thing happening though. > > Maybe if X percent of people decide to rise up and demonstrate about a problem they see in their community, then maybe we should take that at least as seriously as some videos we saw. > > We should probably refrain from hurting other people or damaging property entirely. Sometimes shit happens. Sometimes it happens for a greater reason that we can't control. At least with property damage, it can be repaired or rebuilt. We should probably strive for not having to do that to make a point. Plenty of local businesses have turned to crowdfunding and had a lot of support from the local people for rebuilding the shit their insurance wouldn't cover. It's still a tragedy but, between the pandemic and the curfews, it's not like local restaurants were enjoying a heyday of profit and customers. > > And, by and large, the events in Minneapolis didn't set off a string of violent lootings across the nation. Major US cities are mostly just fine. They aren't lawless hellscapes awash in flames. The events in Minneapolis set off a string of largely peaceful protests across the nation where people assembled to petition the government for a redress of grievances. If you haven't seen the stories about Minneapolis, New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, or other large cities where the people assembled to address the fact that public policy regarding the police needs to be changed, I would encourage you to look at those and learn about what is going on and the reforms that people are demanding. If anything is American democracy in action. If anything, it embodies the people coming to their elected officials with clear demands about problems they want solved. > > Yes, the people in Minneapolis had to run the fucking police out of town to make a point. Maybe that's a symptom of a larger problem we have to address.
Obama and Biden had 8 years to change things. All the riots and lootings are happening in Democrat controlled cities. Democrats are the problem. But they are working for Trump's reelection campaign now.
Anonymous L replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,132,278
@previous (Z-4) > Obama and Biden had 8 years to change things
No, that's a great point that sounds completely unbiased. We should totally blame people from four years ago for our problems now instead of holding elected leaders responsible in any way to change the system they currently control. I'm sure that makes good sense in the bizarro universe you seem to live in.
> Democrats are the problem. But they are working for Trump's reelection campaign now.
I hate to break it to you, but not everything is about your silly "Trump vs. The Democrats" bullshit. There are actual issues that people are talking about and demonstrating to have changed. You should probably listen to people more instead of trying to cast everything in terms of some team me vs. team you perspective.
Anonymous K replied with this 5 years ago, 36 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,132,280
@previous (L)
I'm not about to say electoralism is the answer, because it's proven a failure time and time again, but Trayvon Martin was killed in 2012, Philando Castile was killed in July of 2016, and Mike Brown was killed in August of 2016, all while Obama was in office.
Anonymous Z-5 joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,132,396
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
He also died of a heart attack and not strangulation (just saying). Anyway, why does the method by which the cops murder people matter?
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 22 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,132,407
@1,132,396 (Z-5)
Weird that he would spontaneously have a heart attack while three adult men were kneeling on his torso and neck. Those poor unlucky cops, just at the wrong place at the wrong time. I just don't see why bringing up that fewer black people have been shot by cops is relevant in a thread about a guy who was not shot by the cops, as if this is a problem that has made enough progress that we should stop caring so much.
Anonymous Z-5 replied with this 5 years ago, 6 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,132,576
@1,132,407 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU) > Weird that he would spontaneously have a heart attack while three adult men were kneeling on his torso and neck. Those poor unlucky cops, just at the wrong place at the wrong time.
Who said anything about it being weird? I'm just saying it was the heart attack that ultimately killed him, but that doesn't take away the guilt from those assholes.
> I just don't see why bringing up that fewer black people have been shot by cops is relevant in a thread about a guy who was not shot by the cops, as if this is a problem that has made enough progress that we should stop caring so much.
How about fewer black people have been killed in police custody? It's relevant because the situation is improving, not getting worse, and yet people are acting as though it's as bad as pre-1807... because CNN says Trump is bad.
Oh yeah, when I think millennials, I think CNN watchers. I think people who are as attached to their news stations as people your age, people who can't go more than 10 minutes without getting pissed off about something Tucker Carlson told you, specifically to piss you off.
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 5 years ago, 10 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,132,578
@previous (K)
It's mildly interesting to me how CNN has become this huge boogeyman for Trump supporters. With the amount that they go on about CNN, you'd think it was the biggest threat to Trump being re-elected.
Anonymous K replied with this 5 years ago, 14 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,132,582
@1,132,578 (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
My theory is that it's them telling on themselves, right wingers keep coming back to protests being astroturfed by (((George Soros))) or whoever, and liberals/leftists getting all their opinions from CNN because they astroturf protests and get all their opinions from best case scenario Fox News, worst case scenario InfoWars.
On that note, I was looking to see what the conspiracy theories are for this specific protest, and while I haven't found the holy grail, "George Floyd is a crisis actor" yet, I did find this.
> At least one notable Milwaukee public official is, to say the least, a bit more skeptical of BLM. “Black Lives Matter, which I have renamed ‘Black Lies’ L-I-E-S Matter, it’s nothing more than an astroturf operation,” Milwaukee Sheriff David A. Clarke told the American Journalism Center’s Alex Nitzberg. “It’s just the latest shallow disguised, confederation if you will, of community organizers and leftists that specialize in fostering disorganization and rebellion in ghettos and other struggling areas throughout the United States of America.”
Damn, really gottem. Black Lies Matter, zing. That'll really get those leftists boiling mad.
Anonymous K double-posted this 5 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,132,583
Oh! I just found out about this too - Seattle city council is talking about defunding the police department, and president Gonzalez outright said "You can't fix what is fundamentally broken."
At the same time, the Seattle PD has pulled out of their eastern precinct, spending the morning destroying basically every paper record, and then moving anything that isn't bolted down into huge moving trucks, effectively abandoning the building.
They all fell back into their western precinct, with the assumption that the building would then be burned to the ground, which would justify using more force - which at this point would be the only escalation SPD has left before they can get lethal. But people aren't fucking stupid so they established it as an autonomous zone and have built a barricade, keeping it guarded to stop the police from burning down their own precincts and blaming protestors. (Pic related.)
At the risk of sounding off the horns too early, it's liberation time, baby.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,132,585
@1,132,580 (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
CNN and MSNBC are political hackjobs which tell extremely biased stories 24/7.
It's totally true. When CNN started in the eighties it was a tremendously wonderful thing as it was a new age beginning where people could find out about current events around the clock.
When the first owner Ted Turner sold it the station turned into what it is today.
Before the ownership change there wasnt any openly political bias of the likes of Anderson Cooper or Don Lemon or that Cuomo guy who made inflammatory remarks as they do every time they do a story.
MSNBC has always been fucked but even it was better at it's inception.
I witnessed all this from the start.
You young people don't understand what a sham MSM is at present.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,132,588
@1,132,583 (K)
California is a cesspool of depravity and lunacy now.
Highest taxes...millions of illegals...horribly over priced real estate...home of the ruined city of sanfran freako where you cannot walk a few steps without stepping in a pile of human shit with drug needles poking out of it.
Los Angeles? Ever heard of Maxine Waters? lol.
Cali's Governor is related to crazy Nancy I think.
> It's mildly interesting to me how CNN has become this huge boogeyman for Trump supporters. With the amount that they go on about CNN, you'd think it was the biggest threat to Trump being re-elected.
Added to which is the fact that I don't know a single left-winger who watches CNN whereas on this forum we have a Trump fan who gets so seething mad about it he literally takes photos of his TV screen to show everyone what's got him riled up.
Why don't you go away, instead. I thought you were leaving because "commie mods are censoring you". What happened to that?
Let me guess, you have no IRL friends, and this is the only form of human contact you receive. Which explains why you post here obsessively, and demand people give you their attention. So sad.
Anonymous K replied with this 5 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,132,597
I get that we're all roasting Bert for being a waste of time, space, breath, and blood, and do not get me wrong, he is! But the pigs slashed the tires of protestors wholly on camera, which is you know, it's always fun knowing they can and will do anything and get away with it.
> ...home of the ruined city of sanfran freako where you cannot walk a few steps without stepping in a pile of human shit with drug needles poking out of it.
Anonymous K replied with this 5 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,133,151
@1,133,091 (A)
Literally any leftist could body you, and that includes both the militant redneck revolt types and the Tumblrina "pinkhaired genderspecials" or whatever you call them. You are going to get your ass kicked, and you'll deserve it.
Anonymous K replied with this 5 years ago, 10 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,133,159
@1,133,155 (A)
Shit, you called me stupid, you win the debate. The prankster's gambit is in your favor, clearly. Apotheosis of the master race wins again, then mooches off his mother for shitty frozen pizza and Everclear.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 12 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,133,172
@previous (K)
I expect handling libcucks such as yourself wint take much more effort than it took to to type out this reply, yes. One quick throat punch per.
Anonymous K replied with this 5 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,133,174
@previous (A)
Say, didn't you get banned for threatening violence before?
Anyway, enough about people getting cucked out of their god-given right to violence by the police, let's all take a moment and read this reflection by a former cop.
> I was a police officer for nearly ten years and I was a bastard. We all were. This essay has been kicking around in my head for years now and I’ve never felt confident enough to write it. It’s a time in my life I’m ashamed of. It’s a time that I hurt people and, through inaction, allowed others to be hurt. It’s a time that I acted as a violent agent of capitalism and white supremacy. Under the guise of public safety, I personally ruined people’s lives but in so doing, made the public no safer… so did the family members and close friends of mine who also bore the badge alongside me. But enough is enough. The reforms aren’t working. Incrementalism isn’t happening. Unarmed Black, indigenous, and people of color are being killed by cops in the streets and the police are savagely attacking the people protesting these murders. American policing is a thick blue tumor strangling the life from our communities and if you don’t believe it when the poor and the marginalized say it, if you don’t believe it when you see cops across the country shooting journalists with less-lethal bullets and caustic chemicals, maybe you’ll believe it when you hear it straight from the pig’s mouth.
> ... even police leadership hates rats. That’s why no one is “changing things from the inside.” They can’t, the structure won’t allow it.
It's amazing how many people can believe fictional story lines about precincts being "dirty" but still have trouble believing this kind of thing could happen in real life.
> In the days since abandoning their East Precinct, The Seattle Police Department has been engaged in a disinformation campaign aimed at delegitimizing protesters, fomenting violence, and repairing their murderous public image. Here are the details... > First, the narrative they put forth as they were moving out... For days, they claimed there was a "credible threat" the building would be burned down. They used it to justify widespread violence and gassing, and ultimately framed moving out as giving in to this "credible threat". > Of course it was nonsense. The community showed within minutes that, not only did they not intend to burn the building down, they planned to repurpose it as a community resource, and a platform from which the movement could be educated and communicate with one another. > Later that night, Seattle Police officers used public police scanner frequencies to make it appear as if 30 armed white-supremacists were moving towards the East Precinct, intent on starting violence with the protesters. This went on for hours, clearly intended to cause chaos. > Ask yourself...How does perpetrating a threatening hoax on protesters serve the public? How does it make our city safer? Why are city employees using our resources in an attempt to foment violence, chaos, and anxiety about gun-toting racists? It is unconscionable. > Their attempts to court violence were unsuccessful, of course. The protesters held their ground, protected one another, and ultimately it ended up galvanizing the community even further. The next night, without police to defend against, the camp watched a documentary together. > In a press conference this morning, presumably to counter the peaceful pictures from the night before, Seattle Police claimed, without evidence, that protesters had fortified CHAZ and were conducting "citizen checkpoints". This is nonsense, verified by countless visitors today. > They claimed they had "credible" reports of businesses being extorted for money while in the Autonomous Zone. Also nonsense, confirmed by several businesses, many of who said they were happy to have protesters in their community. But that didn't stop the story spreading. > Virtually every local news network repeated SPD's false claims, verbatim. Conservative talk radio parroted the talking points. This was deliberate, this was planned, and this is just the most recent in a long history of the Seattle Police Department acting in bad faith. > For what? Why is our police force using our resources to knowingly spread disinformation and propaganda against nonviolent protesters? Why are they using scanner frequencies to concoct stories of impending racist violence? These are tactics used in war. Who are they at war with? > The answer is simple: the people of this city. Every single one of us. Not just the protesters, but every single person who reads the news, who votes, who engages their friends and neighbors in dialog, and who are being fed deliberate lies to slander a group young protesters. > This is beyond despicable, and it speaks directly to the heart of this movement. The Seattle Police are not a part of this community, they are a separate entity which has violently pitted itself against the people they're sworn to protect. They must be abolished.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 weeks after the original post[^][v]#1,133,457
@previous (K)
Yes. It is incredibly dumb by itself, but combine that with the fact that Bert's own life fits more onto the democrat side than Republican and it is much worse/better.
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 5 years ago, 18 minutes later, 2 weeks after the original post[^][v]#1,133,458
@1,133,454 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
I quite enjoy the contrast between Bert's boomer "text over an image" memes and the NZ troll's younger and more hip "talking point reposts".
Anonymous K replied with this 5 years ago, 8 minutes later, 2 weeks after the original post[^][v]#1,133,459
@previous (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
Now all we need is the Evangelical forme of the right and we'll have all three formes and we can go catch Mewtwo, or whatever.
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 5 years ago, 7 hours later, 2 weeks after the original post[^][v]#1,133,560
@1,133,406 (K)
That got me to check dialog vs dialogue. Apparently, > Dialogue is the preferred spelling in American and British English for all contexts related to conversation and the exchange of ideas. Dialog, in American English, has a specific use in computational contexts and the phrase dialog box is universal.
Barely relevant but I found it somewhat interesting.
tteh !MemesToDNA replied with this 5 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 weeks after the original post[^][v]#1,133,563
@previous (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
Makes me think of program vs programme. In AmE, it's always program, but British English distinguishes between a computer program and all other programmes. Same in Canadian English?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 31 minutes later, 2 weeks after the original post[^][v]#1,134,344
@previous (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
How is his death relevant in any way except to point out that white people have a much greater chance than black people of dying at the hands of police?
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 5 years ago, 3 hours later, 2 weeks after the original post[^][v]#1,134,417
@previous (A)
Can you provide a source for that statement? I'm quite sure that's untrue once you take into account the actual number of black and white people living in America.
> Risk is highest for black men, who (at current levels of risk) face about a 1 in 1,000 chance of being killed by police over the life course. https://www.pnas.org/content/116/34/16793
> Victims were ... disproportionately black (32%) with a fatality rate 2.8 times higher among blacks than whites. Most victims were reported to be armed (83%); however, black victims were more likely to be unarmed (14.8%) than white (9.4%) or Hispanic (5.8%) victims. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6080222/