Topic: Outrageous! Nissan closes their Spanish factory and moves it to UK while will be the center of....
EU good - UK bad started this discussion 5 years ago #100,125
European production.How is this possable? Do Nissan not know the UK voted to leave? How is this possable? The brexit vote was good Vs evil and evil is winning. I am literally shaking as I type this, shaking and crying.
https://news.sky.com/story/nissan-puts-focus-on-uk-plant-but-sparks-anger-with-spain-closure-11996139
Please everyone write to your MEP, write to Nissan, write to the people of Japan.
Sunderland bad (OP) double-posted this 5 years ago, 24 minutes later[^] [v] #1,129,235
Britain has no trade deal with Japan, and the British govt published it's WTO tariffs earlier this month saying imported cars will have a 10% tariff.
So it makes sense for Nissan to keep it's plant at Sunderland and make cars for the British market (they have said they'll make Renaults and Mitsibishis as well at that plant for the British market to avoid tariffs incurred by importing from the EU and Japan).
Spain sadly is the victim of the EU-Japan trade deal that removed tariffs on cars. Nissan no longer needs a plant in the EU because they can now export directly from Japan.
BTW, the people of Sunderland got a lot of abuse for voting for Brexit - lots of people called them "stupid". They weren't stupid at all. Unlike the commentariat they had been keeping a close eye on the EU-Japan trade deal and knew it would mean the end for their plant - unless they were able to get the UK out of the EU. They were presented with their chance in the 2016 ref and grabbed it with both hands. It was a vote for self-interest as are all votes.
So it makes sense for Nissan to keep it's plant at Sunderland and make cars for the British market (they have said they'll make Renaults and Mitsibishis as well at that plant for the British market to avoid tariffs incurred by importing from the EU and Japan).
Spain sadly is the victim of the EU-Japan trade deal that removed tariffs on cars. Nissan no longer needs a plant in the EU because they can now export directly from Japan.
BTW, the people of Sunderland got a lot of abuse for voting for Brexit - lots of people called them "stupid". They weren't stupid at all. Unlike the commentariat they had been keeping a close eye on the EU-Japan trade deal and knew it would mean the end for their plant - unless they were able to get the UK out of the EU. They were presented with their chance in the 2016 ref and grabbed it with both hands. It was a vote for self-interest as are all votes.
Fake anon (OP) triple-posted this 5 years ago, 3 minutes later, 28 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,129,237
Brexit is a success even if it causes a shrinking economy and diminished presence on the world stage while providing zero of the alleged benefits promised by the hucksters and morons who campaigned for it
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 12 minutes later, 40 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,129,242
Car manufacturing in the UK has declined basically every year since Brexit and is going to crater with the coronavirus crisis. The Honda plant in Swindon is closing next year. The UK isn't getting a brand new factory, they are just going to produce more at the already existing one. This is at best a mixed bag. Not sure this is the zinger of the point you thought it was.(Edited 10 minutes later.)
tteh !MemesToDNA joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,129,270
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
We might be losing overall, but it's still a win. Somehow. Thanks.
We might be losing overall, but it's still a win. Somehow. Thanks.
Erik !AltRitexT6 (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,129,272
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,129,275
@1,129,270 (tteh !MemesToDNA)
Thanks.
@previous (Erik !AltRitexT6)
Yes, which is why painting one plant in the UK not closing as a brexit-inspired win is...weak. It's not like the UK is substantially exceeding expectations or anything.
Thanks.
@previous (Erik !AltRitexT6)
Yes, which is why painting one plant in the UK not closing as a brexit-inspired win is...weak. It's not like the UK is substantially exceeding expectations or anything.
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 5 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,129,276
blom joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 5 days later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,131,052
dw joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,131,085
They're shutting down a plant, they're not moving it to the UK. Read the articles you post
dw double-posted this 5 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,131,086
Also pretty fucked that they'd shut down a factory now
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 2 hours later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,131,094
It looks like England wins again!
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 5 hours later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,131,109
@1,131,052 (blom)
> This is not the first time that Nissan has pleaded with UK and EU negotiators to ensure that the 70% of cars manufactured at Sunderland which are sold in the EU can avoid tariffs of 10% under World Trade Organisation rules - the legal default position if a deal is not struck.
Wait svet told me these tarrifs were the reason the plant in the UK was kept, and that the press was too stupid to realize this fact, while people in the city knew the WTO tarrif rates for automobiles and calculated correctly that those would be beneficial for the town rather than joining the FTA.
???
> This is not the first time that Nissan has pleaded with UK and EU negotiators to ensure that the 70% of cars manufactured at Sunderland which are sold in the EU can avoid tariffs of 10% under World Trade Organisation rules - the legal default position if a deal is not struck.
Wait svet told me these tarrifs were the reason the plant in the UK was kept, and that the press was too stupid to realize this fact, while people in the city knew the WTO tarrif rates for automobiles and calculated correctly that those would be beneficial for the town rather than joining the FTA.
???
(Edited 39 seconds later.)