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Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 35 minutes later[^][v]#1,356,349
Sure.
Try asking yourself what the horse might have been doing at the moment the fly flew into its mouth. A further hint: it does not involve the horse travelling or otherwise moving anywhere.
Good luck! I'll give you the answer if you don't get it.
Gaz from Lewisham joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 3 hours later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,356,371
> Alright I'm reinterested in your thinking problem. Please can you give me a clue and I'll try to give an answer this weekend.
Dude, seriously.
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 months ago, 5 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,356,372
@previous (Gaz from Lewisham)
Just because the problem defeated you and the wallies over at TC doesn't mean it will get the better of Svet.
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 8 hours later, 12 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,356,438
@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
Just because there are naked pictures of your wife all over motherless and show me your wife doesn't mean it will get better either.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 6 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,356,441
Anonymous O double-posted this 3 months ago, 15 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,356,544
I think that the answer relies on Russian-language wordplay.
The Russian for word "ушёл" is the past tense of "уйти", which means "to leave" or "to go away". So when you say ушёл, that translates to "left" or "has gone".
This is where the double-meaning comes in. The lateral thinking riddle says that the fly flew into the horses mouth, and flies back out. Bit when the fly leaves, the word ушёл is used. Because it means "left" or "has gone", there is an implication that the horse has gone, when actually it's just the fly that flew out.
Anonymous O triple-posted this 3 months ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,356,545
I used machine translation to create a possible Russian version of the puzzle which would work with my answer above. Father Dave, please tell me what you think.
Муха залетела в пасть лошади, а когда вылетела, лошадь ушла. Что произошло?
Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 23 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,356,550
So the horse hasn't gone at all, it's just the the fly flew away from the horses' location
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 3 months ago, 16 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,356,554
Yes, I think it's that there's a pun in Russian where even though it'd just that the fly flew out of the horses mouth, there's a suggestion that the horse disappeared.
Anonymous P joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 14 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,356,557
@1,356,550 (Erik !saAqdaazn2)
The problem says "the horse is gone"
Gone=DEAD!
Anonymous E replied with this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,356,558
@1,356,550 (Erik !saAqdaazn2)
All of those answers have been said 2 years ago at TC. Dave was banned over this among other issues. Did he ask you to start this up again?
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 months ago, 24 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,356,559
So I think now would be an opportune time to clearly re-state the original problem:
A fly flies into a horse's mouth and when it flies back out again moments later the horse is gone. What's happened?
It was previously noted that the solution does not involve the death of either creature, and the problem is specific to a horse and a fly (their qualities/features). The problem would not work with, say, a fish swimming into a shark's mouth or a mosquito flying into a bear's mouth.
Good luck everyone! I'll give the answer later if nobody gets it.
Anon replied with this 3 months ago, 11 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,356,563
@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc) > It was previously noted that the solution does not involve the death of either creature,
Nowhere is this stated in the original problem.
Given you're a priest who is in the business of dispensing bullshit on a daily basis, this is expected of you.
Anonymous Q joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,356,565
@1,356,559 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc) > I'll give the answer later if nobody gets it.
We've heard that before
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 months ago, 14 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,356,566
I'm disappointed, I thought my russian language answer was certainly the way. I officially give up forever.
Anonymous R joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 8 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,356,572
The horse didn't disappear, it's likely a case of a common bot fly lifecycle, where the fly's larvae (which look like worms) enter the horse's mouth, travel to the stomach, and then are expelled in the spring, only to emerge as adult flies.
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 months ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,356,575
> All of those answers have been said 2 years ago at TC.
3 years ago to be precise. And somewhat embarrassingly, only 2 people have successfully come up with the answer in all that time (one here and one at TC).
Anonymous O replied with this 3 months ago, 15 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,356,580
Indeed. A surly moderator locked a vibrant, engaging thread with 1500+ posts just because the answer kept eluding him. But we won't let that happen here!
Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 3 days later, 6 days after the original post[^][v]#1,358,099
How about that clue? I want to solve it this week.
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 months ago, 8 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,358,166
Just because it stumped you doesn't mean Svet won't get it.
Right, a new clue. It'll be a 2-parter. The first part is this: when you imagine the problem's scenario in your mind's eye, on what (if anything) is the horse standing?
Anonymous O replied with this 3 months ago, 1 hour later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,358,245
> Are you not even curious to the answer? I'm want this solved, it's the only way to stop Dave in his tracks.
It was solved years ago. But the trolling goes on. Once they found out at TC it was answered and he refused to acknowledge it he was banned for it. This is nothing but a troll for attention.
Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 5 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,358,336
@previous (Gaz from Lewisham)
I think Dave has more respect for minichan and it's users. If we guess it right he'll play fair.
Anonymous Z-13 joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 1 hour later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,358,348
1. Is the fly a bot fly or just any old type of fly?
2. Is the horse a horsefly?
3. Is the horse "gone" because it flew away?
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 months ago, 13 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,358,350
> 1. Is the fly a bot fly or just any old type of fly?
A regular fly, like the type you'd see in a medium-sized living room or a field.
> 2. Is the horse a horsefly?
No.
> 3. Is the horse "gone" because it flew away?
"Moments later". Flies are not hypersonic.
Bless you for the questions, friend!
(Edited 1 minute later.)
Anonymous P replied with this 3 months ago, 3 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,358,410
@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc) > Flies are not hypersonic.
IF your Jesus can turn his urine into wine, a fly can be hypersonic.
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 months ago, 4 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,358,539
Ok, I'm back! Sorry I've been gone all day, I just now got home and logged in to MC.
Right, on with part 2 of the clue.
You'll all recall the original formulation of the lateral thinking problem:
A fly flies into a horse's mouth and when it flies back out again moments later the horse is gone. What's happened?
You'll also recall I have said repeatedly that the solution does not involve wordplay and therefore the riddle works in any language.
But that doesn't mean we might not find clues within the wording...
And so, here is part 2 of the clue: go back through the riddle and ask yourself, "Each time I read the word fly or flies, am I reading it as a noun, adjective or verb?"
I'll give you all the weekend to mull that one over.
Green !!bO/s3MBcD replied with this 3 months ago, 3 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,358,585
This may go down as one of the greatest riddles in the history of mankind ever!
Green !!bO/s3MBcD double-posted this 3 months ago, 27 seconds later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,358,586
@1,358,539 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
Was it all a dream and the horse was gone because the dreamer woke up?
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 months ago, 5 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,358,587
> Was it all a dream and the horse was gone because the dreamer woke up?
An intriguing effort, but no, there is no soporific aspect to the riddle.
Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 23 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,358,590
@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
Did the horse just lie down?
Green !!bO/s3MBcD replied with this 3 months ago, 35 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,358,594
Was the horse eaten by another animal, which is why it is gone? Or is it just a horse's head so when this fly flies through the mouth there is no horse's body so the horse is gone?
Anonymous Z-13 replied with this 3 months ago, 6 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,358,634
> I have said repeatedly that the solution does not involve wordplay
> "Each time I read the word fly or flies, am I reading it as a noun, adjective or verb?"
This is an example of wordplay, you dolt.
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 months ago, 2 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,358,639
But no, the horse doesn't just lie down. Keep thinking!
Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,358,640
@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
Okay, I'm actually excited for this now. Please don't ruin it and blert out the answer. I'm going to discuss it over lunch with friends and crack it by Sunday.
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 months ago, 11 seconds later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,358,641
> You were just given it but you delete it. Again you are trying to hide the truth.
I didn't delete it. Post it again.
Gunther replied with this 3 months ago, 8 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,358,671
If your memory serves you this was to be your last post ever on TC.
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U (OP) — 1.8 year ago, 5 minutes later, 1.3 year after the original post
@previous (Z-89)
So, the riddle is just HORSESHIT!
EXACTLY - WE have a Winner.
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 months ago, 2 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,358,673
@previous (Gunther)
LOL, you're actually talking about that screenshot you posted? That's not me you colossal berk. The patently false "OP" didn't clue you in? No wonder you can't solve this riddle if this is the level of your sleuthing skills 😂🤣
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc double-posted this 3 months ago, 22 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,358,681
Still waiting on that solution, 'Gunther' my dear gullible berk.
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc triple-posted this 3 months ago, 11 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,358,686
And 'Gunther' fell mysteriously silent :)
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc quadruple-posted this 3 months ago, 15 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,358,690
Anonymous Z-13 replied with this 3 months ago, 2 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,358,713
(Citing a deleted or non-existent reply.)
E.g. he deleted this one: > I have said repeatedly that the solution does not involve wordplay > "Each time I read the word fly or flies, am I reading it as a noun, adjective or verb?"
This is an example of wordplay, you dolt.
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 months ago, 3 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,358,715
> Ok, I'm back! Sorry I've been gone all day, I just now got home and logged in to MC. > > Right, on with part 2 of the clue. > > You'll all recall the original formulation of the lateral thinking problem: > > A fly flies into a horse's mouth and when it flies back out again moments later the horse is gone. What's happened? > > You'll also recall I have said repeatedly that the solution does not involve wordplay and therefore the riddle works in any language. > > But that doesn't mean we might not find clues within the wording... > > And so, here is part 2 of the clue: go back through the riddle and ask yourself, "Each time I read the word fly or flies, am I reading it as a noun, adjective or verb?" > > I'll give you all the weekend to mull that one over.
Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 9 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,358,721
100 get
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 months ago, 18 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,358,722
> Alright. Im gonna guess it by the weekend. Don't give it away until then.
I'll give you until midnight BST this coming Sunday and if you haven't got it by then I'll reveal the answer.
Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 12 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,359,169
@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
Sounds good. Im giving myself one good guess a day until then.
Ernie !C0B02lVUGE joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 6 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^][v]#1,359,211
I figured it out!
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 3 months ago, 3 days later, 2 weeks after the original post[^][v]#1,359,725
The horse was a Looney Tune who had run off a cliff, and the fly flew in and out of his mouth in the moments that the horse was holding up a "Yikes" sign before he fell down the chasm.
Anonymous Z-21 joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 5 hours later, 2 weeks after the original post[^][v]#1,359,779
The horse was gay and was beaten to a pulp at Putin's behest.
Anonymous Z-22 joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 1 day later, 2 weeks after the original post[^][v]#1,360,273
@1,359,169 (Erik !saAqdaazn2)
Did you forget to post your answer this past weekend?
Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 1 hour later, 2 weeks after the original post[^][v]#1,360,298
@previous (Z-22)
I did! I need a new week. I shall beat this riddle by Sunday
Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) double-posted this 2 months ago, 1 day later, 2 weeks after the original post[^][v]#1,360,624
> 2 guesses. > > 1. Was the hourse crossing a stream or river?
Oooooh, you might be going in the right direction here!! Very important question though: do you mean swimming across a river or being otherwise transported across?
> 2. Did the horse rear up ?
Not relevant. That is to say, if it did, it would not affect the problem.
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc double-posted this 2 months ago, 34 seconds later, 2 weeks after the original post[^][v]#1,360,664
@previous (Quinn from Shoreditch)
Ha, forgot to switch over! That's me, natch.
Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 38 minutes later, 2 weeks after the original post[^][v]#1,360,666
@1,360,663 (Quinn from Shoreditch)
Wait.. so you don't actually live in Russia?
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 7 minutes later, 2 weeks after the original post[^][v]#1,360,667
@previous (Erik !saAqdaazn2)
No. For the last 7 years I've lived in Shoreditch with my life partner Emilia and his husband.
Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 11 minutes later, 2 weeks after the original post[^][v]#1,360,668
@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
You should have said sooner. I pass through Shoreditch almost daily.
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 3 minutes later, 2 weeks after the original post[^][v]#1,360,670
@previous (Erik !saAqdaazn2)
We should grab a blue algae latte and discuss Tracey Emin sometime.
Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 4 minutes later, 2 weeks after the original post[^][v]#1,360,671
@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
Fun fact. She went to my school.
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 19 minutes later, 2 weeks after the original post[^][v]#1,360,674
@previous (Erik !saAqdaazn2)
Was her graduation work "17 Used Tampons - A Meditation on Wittgenstein's Tractatus"?
Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 18 minutes later, 2 weeks after the original post[^][v]#1,360,675
@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
No, it was a painting of a horsefly.
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 8 hours later, 2 weeks after the original post[^][v]#1,360,852
"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: for every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened" - Matthew 7:7-8
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 2 months ago, 1 hour later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,363,505
(Citing a deleted or non-existent reply.)
Now it is up to a month.
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 8 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,363,509
> > I'm sure he will if we all ask for it. > > Precisely. > > "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: for every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened" - Matthew 7:7-8
Anonymous Z-14 joined in and replied with this 2 months ago, 2 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,363,521
What's the riddle, again?
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 2 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,363,537
@previous (Z-14)
A fly flies into a horse's mouth and when it flies back out again moments later the horse is gone. What's happened?
Amusingly, nobody has yet focused on the 2nd and final sentence of the riddle.
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 9 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,363,540
> So somebody did give you the right answer and you didnt announce the results?
To the best of my knowledge there are at least 2 people who know the solution, one is at Tinychan and the other is Fake Anon (the moderator here at Minichan). Back when I actually took this seriously and accusations that there was no solution legitimately annoyed me I PMed him the answer on the understanding that he would publicly confirm that I had sent it to him, which he did. His acknowledgement no longer exists because the thread has been deleted (by me, because of the Tinychan Pedophile's spam) but I've no doubt he'll reconfirm that I sent it to him if asked.
I am also prepared to PM to Svet, via a moderator, the solution to the problem. I will do it today if he asks me, again on the understanding that he confirms in this thread that I sent it to him, a solution does exist, and it is a genuinely clever riddle (in other words it's not some lame wordplay or something). Like I said at this stage I'm happy to play along with the silliness but when I first posted the riddle 3 years ago it was a serious problem from a respected Russian TV show and it irritated me when people said I had made it up.
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc double-posted this 2 months ago, 20 seconds later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,363,603
> it irritated me when people said I had made it up.
We'll keep that in mind. :)
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 4 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,363,644
@previous (Z-29)
"Irritated" - past tense you berk. See: @1,363,602 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc) > 3 years ago
See also: @1,363,602 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc) > at this stage I'm happy to play along with the silliness
Another card-carrying member of the Royal Society of Berks 😂
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc double-posted this 2 months ago, 58 seconds later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,363,645
> I feel like every solution has been given already
They used to say the same about Goldbach's Conjecture.
> I want to know why you didn't announce the winner when the Tinychan person gave the right answer.
Because the solution was not posted publicly in the thread, it was PMed to me. I won't say more or else there's a risk I'll reveal who it was and I don't want to do that.
> Anyway the horse is a reflection in still water and the fly fucked up the image by making it ripple.
What happened to "I feel like every solution has been given already"? You're still coming up with new ideas!
Keep trying, don't give up.
Anonymous Z-36 joined in and replied with this 2 months ago, 3 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,363,703
I’ve heard this one on some other website. I don’t remember what the answer was other than that it didn’t make sense.
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 42 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,363,717
The horse happened to have fallen out of a plane and was dropping at terminal velocity. The fly didn't fly out itself, but rather flew out by the force of momentum.
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 6 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,363,719
@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
That wouldn't entail the horse being "gone" moments later. I've skydived, you're not falling so fast that you disappear from the pilot's view within moments!
Keep thinking though! You'll get there, I believe in you. If it helps you, I'll give you a clue: the horse needn't be moving at any point during the scenario.
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 18 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,363,722
> From the reference point of the fly, the horse disappears immediately.
There is no way of knowing that. You can't know the fly's perspective, much less what it sees, to say nothing of the fact that just because thing A can't see thing B, it doesn't follow that thing B is therefore gone. There will be things in your truck that you can't see when you're driving but they're still there!
> Is the fly moving during this scenario?
Naturally. It "flies into a horse's mouth" and "flies back out moments later".
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 8 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,363,726
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 15 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,363,729
@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
That's its location you berk. Your scenario hinges upon which direction it is looking, and you can't know what that is. If I tell you the fly is looking down towards earth for example your 'solution' falls apart like a freshly-baked apple crumble.
Anonymous Z-37 joined in and replied with this 2 months ago, 2 days later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,364,162
No, because the point of view of the scenario is a third party who is observing the fly and horse interact, from the relative position of the fly.
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 53 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,364,179
@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
Then why can the "third party" not see the horse if his "relative position" is of the fly? All you've done here is substitute the fly for a third party, which does nothing to salvage your scenario if the 3rd party is facing the horse as it descends.
Think, my dear truckie. Think!
Meta joined in and replied with this 2 months ago, 11 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,364,181
It was never actually a fly. It was a bee.
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 7 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,364,194
Doesn't matter where the fly is looking, because the observer is a third party viewing the fly, and only the fly. From the point of view of this third party, the horse has gone.
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 43 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,364,236
> Doesn't matter where the fly is looking, because the observer is a third party viewing the fly, and only the fly.
If this is the case then what's the need for the rest of your scenario? Why not just simplify your solution to: "The riddle is from the perspective of a person who for whatever reason cannot see the horse?"
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 3 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,364,257
He's posted over 120 Dave posts in the last 2 hours. He's having a full-on psychotic break right now.
Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 11 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,364,411
I fear my thread is getting derailed and that's unfortunate.
We need to get back to debating this riddle and thinking latterly.
My latest guess. @Dave, was the dead? And I don't mean "gone" as in dead, but the fly flew into a dead horses mouth and moments later it few out as the horse was dropped through a trapdoor
Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) double-posted this 2 months ago, 5 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,364,447
(Citing a deleted or non-existent reply.)
I disagree. Dave may be a putin apologist but he has held off giving me the answer at my request a d even offered to PM me the answer.
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 7 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,364,449
The show has been running for decades and the horse/fly problem is generally considered to be one of the most ingenious questions in the game's history.
(Edited 25 minutes later.)
Anonymous Z-13 replied with this 2 months ago, 11 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,365,029
@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc) > one [of] the most ingenious questions in the game's history.
And yet there isn't a single mention of this riddle anywhere else online...
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 16 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,365,030
@previous (Z-13)
Yes there is. As an example it can be found on the 'Top 10 Questions As Voted By Viewers' section on the show's VK page.
Anonymous Z-13 replied with this 2 months ago, 1 hour later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,365,031
A fly flies into a horse's mouth and when it flies back out again moments later the horse is gone. What's happened?
dw !p9hU6ckyqw replied with this 2 months ago, 36 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,365,041
@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
A fly flew into a horse's mouth and when it flew back out again moments later the horse was gone
Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 2 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,365,082
@1,365,037 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
Is the horse travelling in a horse box?
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 11 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,365,083
@previous (Erik !saAqdaazn2)
If it is, it has no bearing on the solution.
Anonymous P replied with this 2 months ago, 48 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,365,101
The horse has likely just disappeared due to the horse disappearing trick, where the horse is magically removed from the location. The fly entering and leaving the mouth is a common distraction to make the trick more believable
Anonymous S replied with this 2 months ago, 9 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,365,213
The only horse being gone riddle on that show, as far as I'm aware (and I've looked on VK...) is the one that says "A horse is gone. Where?", the answer being "In the past".
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 30 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,365,391
> The only horse being gone riddle on that show, as far as I'm aware (and I've looked on VK...) is the one that says "A horse is gone. Where?", the answer being "In the past".
There have been 493 episodes of the show spread over 43 seasons with each episode lasting up to 90 minutes. Are you suggesting you've watched every one?
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 20 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,365,393
I already looked on there one hour ago when I replied and I see no such post. I want you to link the post.
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 5 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,365,400
@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
Something doesn't add up here. You're asking me to link to something which you've literally claimed you're currently looking at.
Let's do it this way, which 'community' (I'm assuming your settings are set to English) are you using when you say you "looked on VK"? Post the link to the page you claim to be looking at, or just screenshot it if you prefer.
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 4 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,365,401
> Something doesn't add up here. You're asking me to link to something which you've literally claimed you're currently looking at.
I browsed the feed, and I cannot see the post you're referencing.
> Let's do it this way, which 'community' (I'm assuming your settings are set to English) are you using when you say you "looked on VK"? Post the link to the page you claim to be looking at, or just screenshot it if you prefer.
/chgktv
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 1 hour later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,365,412
@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
You can read Russian, right?
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 14 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,365,413
"Did you know that at first the show "What? Where? When?" did not have a team of TV viewers? Interesting facts and questions forThe first games were searched for by the editorial team.
After a while, TV viewers began doing this, and now anyone can come up with and send a question for the game. Try it yourself - send your questions for experts in the most convenient way for you ⬆
. Good luck!"
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 3 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,365,453
@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
Finally we're making progress! Right, the post below that, click on the comments.
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 2 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,365,454
People are very unhappy that there are no spring and summer finals this year, aren't they? Olesya Alekseeva-Ishanova in particular seems extremely hurt.
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 11 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,365,510
Sure, I'll post one later tonight. I'm currently cooking up a nice piping hot lampredotto and it requires all my attention.
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc double-posted this 2 months ago, 5 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,365,520
For those who don't know, lampredotto is produced with one of the four stomachs from bovine meat, the abomasum. It goes through a lengthy cooking process with tomato, onion, parsley and celery. A dish of very poor origin, nowadays it is upscale Florentine street food and usually eaten in a sandwich, the semelle, salted unlike other types of Tuscan bread.
And so as you can see, cooking it requires all my attention.
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 2 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,365,524
> I'm not particularly bothered, because they'll have a larger end-of-year final instead. It's not the end of the world.
This is a well-argued point and I like the sense of perspective you bring at the end.
> Anyway, why did you ask me to look at these comments?
First things first, did you look at them?
Anonymous P replied with this 2 months ago, 18 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,365,535
@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc) The horse has likely just disappeared due to the horse disappearing trick, where the horse is magically removed from the location. The fly entering and leaving the mouth is a common distraction to make the trick more believable
Not even a comment from you?
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 5 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,365,541
Yes, there are many complaints that the spring season has ended without a final.
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 3 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,365,543
@1,365,535 (P)
I mean, if the answer were simply "it's magic!" it would hardly be a lateral thinking problem, much less one of the ten highest rated questions in a show that's been going for 43 years!
Anonymous P replied with this 2 months ago, 14 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,365,546
@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
1: You limit the solution to just a single one solution. No Room for alternate solutions -
The definition to Lateral Thinking is:
Lateral thinking is a manner of solving problems using an indirect and creative approach via reasoning that is not immediately obvious. Synonymous to thinking outside the box, it involves ideas that may not be obtainable using only traditional step-by-step logic..
Of course this is not the only possible definition to lateral thinking.
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 2 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,365,547
> The definition to Lateral Thinking is: > Lateral thinking is a manner of solving problems using an indirect and creative approach via reasoning that is not immediately obvious.
None of which applies to "it's magic!" If it did then "it's magic!" would be the answer to literally every lateral thinking question, thus rendering them meaningless.
Meta replied with this 2 months ago, 30 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,365,571
I SAID SHUT UP YOU GODDAMN NIGGERS
Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 41 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,365,579
Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 5 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,366,005
@1,366,003 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
I'm pretty sure they eat horse meat in Russia. I thought the horse might be in a slaughter house.
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 2 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,366,006
The horse was a photo of a horse, the one that Saint George was riding on the coat of arms of Russian Empire. The fly happened to fly into a small hole in the flag at the imperial palace on the 15th March 1917, and was disturbed by the flag being taken down after the abdication of the Tsar, causing it to leave it's resting position. Afterwards, the coat of arms no longer had any legal basis so it was "gone"
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 7 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,366,007
> The horse was a photo of a horse, the one that Saint George was riding on the coat of arms of Russian Empire. The fly happened to fly into a small hole in the flag at the imperial palace on the 15th March 1917, and was disturbed by the flag being taken down after the abdication of the Tsar, causing it to leave it's resting position. Afterwards, the coat of arms no longer had any legal basis so it was "gone"
You're on the right lines here. See, I told you reading those VK comments would pay dividends.
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 45 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,366,008
The question comes from the pre-glasnost time. The fly is a metaphor for the Lenin and the horse is a metaphor for the corrupt bourgeoisie. By itself, a fly can do very little harm to something as solid and large as a horse, or an empire, but, one single fly bravely leading the charge in the face of extreme danger, and risking everything, was able to topple the corrupt Tsardom and demolish it, leaving nothing behind except the freedom to build a new socialist soviet republic.
Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 3 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,366,009
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 3 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,366,029
You see, our cereal fetishist friend up there accused me of trying to waste his time by having him translate a bunch of comments on the social media page of a popular Russian game show. I presume an apology will be forthcoming?
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,366,030
No, because those comments have nothing to do with any answers I've given since.
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU double-posted this 2 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,366,031
I'm still waiting for you to show me where this supposed "top 10 user-submitted questions" article is, as it appears to be nowhere on the VK page you said it would be on.
Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 1 hour later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,366,037
The horse is a statue that is demolished?
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 1 hour later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,366,047
(Citing a deleted or non-existent reply.)
No complementary fruit?
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 3 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,366,049
> Was the horse being eaten so when the fly flew out the horse was no longer there as it had been consumed by another animal?
Somebody already proposed that but no, the horse was not being eaten. Realistically nothing can consume a horse in the "moments" it took the fly to fly in and out of the horse's mouth.
Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 44 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^][v]#1,368,487
(Citing a deleted or non-existent reply.)
Oh wow. We have similar flipcharts. Is there a magnetic white board under the paper too?
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 1 month ago, 5 days later, 2 months after the original post[^][v]#1,369,382
> Do it in Russian and ill do it my end in English
The thing is, if I write it as it's phrased in Russian then they could very easily just copy the problem into yandex.ru (Russia's version of Google) and be instantly taken to the solution. I don't trust them not to cheat.
Tired Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 17 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^][v]#1,369,643
@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
Write it in Latin then.
Anonymous Z-123 joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 6 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^][v]#1,369,660
@1,369,642 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
Why not just give your fake solution to the problem as you promised years ago.
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 1 month ago, 1 hour later, 2 months after the original post[^][v]#1,369,697
> Except you said that the way it's phrased has nothing to do with the solution,
Nope, I said it's not a solution that relies on wordplay. How it's phrased obviously matters which is why I'm meticulous about always phrasing it exactly the same way.
> and it's just as easy to solve in English as it is in Russian.
It is. This fact has nothing to do with the post you're replying to.
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 1 month ago, 6 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^][v]#1,369,705
Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 54 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^][v]#1,371,636
Green shouldn't be a mod
Anonymous Z-157 joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 day later, 2 months after the original post[^][v]#1,371,938
288 GET
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 3 weeks ago, 3 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^][v]#1,371,954
Oh dear, there seems to be an angry mod ITT who doesn't enjoy the puzzle of the unsolvable riddle.
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 weeks ago, 6 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^][v]#1,371,972
@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
Green's not angry, he just keeps deleting shitloads of posts to prevent the thread reaching 300 for some reason.
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 2 months after the original post[^][v]#1,371,973
Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 11 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^][v]#1,372,225
I asked tinychan for help and it didnt go down too well
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 weeks ago, 52 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^][v]#1,372,226
@previous (Erik !saAqdaazn2)
Ha, I wondered what happened to that thead. I replied to it by the way, I was the guy who told the skeptical anon who thought I wasn't a real priest that "he" (i.e me) had proven it one time over here on MC.
But yeah, mentioning the horse/fly problem over there won't last long. The mods still have emotional scarring from it 😂
Anonymous Z-123 replied with this 3 weeks ago, 8 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^][v]#1,372,259
@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc) > The mods still have emotional scarring from it
You did prove that Priests are just Trolls and are paid to lie for a living.
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 weeks ago, 16 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^][v]#1,372,260
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU double-posted this 2 weeks ago, 9 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^][v]#1,372,581
I think maybe it's a joke about the relative motion of the earth. When the fly flew out of the horses mouth, the earth had already rotated, taking the horse with it.
From the point of view of an alien observer external to the Earth, the horse had "gone" from it's absolute position in space.
From the point of view
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU triple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 21 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^][v]#1,372,754
The fly was eaten and entered Valhalla
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 weeks ago, 3 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^][v]#1,372,776
@1,372,225 (Erik !saAqdaazn2)
Svet lad, I've arranged for you to be able to post in locked threads for when this thread has to be temporarily locked against the Autistic Tinychan Mess. So keep those guesses coming!
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc double-posted this 2 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^][v]#1,372,777
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU double-posted this 1 week ago, 2 minutes later, 3 months after the original post[^][v]#1,375,204
But you could make the same argument with anything really. For example I saw Les Miserables All Star concert live and when I watch it again on the video it's still very good, but it was better watching it in real life.
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 1 week ago, 2 minutes later, 3 months after the original post[^][v]#1,375,205
@1,375,203 (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
Both the Solti and the Boulez Rings that I was talking about are recordings. One was live, the other wasn't. You seem to be talking about concert-going.
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc double-posted this 1 week ago, 1 minute later, 3 months after the original post[^][v]#1,375,206
> No, that was the 10th anniversary Dream Cast in 1995 (which is extremely good and I wish I could have seen it)
My parents had it on video. Henshall was perfect, as was the guy who played Javert (Stars has never been sung better), though the Canadian guy playing Valjean had a slightly annoying accent to his singing.
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc double-posted this 1 day ago, 1 week later, 3 months after the original post[^][v]#1,376,326
Been on a bit of a Black Sabbath kick this last week since Ozzy's final concert and I've concluded that Heaven and Hell is unquestionably the band's greatest song. The riff is so simple but brilliant. Geezer's groove is sublime. Dio's vocal performance is just epic. Bill Ward is solid throughout but shifts into another gear in the fast section. And that acoustic coda is just *chef's kiss*.
In 2nd place I'd probably put Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, a song that proves Ozzy really did have range.
Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 1 day ago, 6 hours later, 3 months after the original post[^][v]#1,376,335
Was the horse galloping away?
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 1 day ago, 12 minutes later, 3 months after the original post[^][v]#1,376,336
The point of view is from the horse. It was looking in a big mirror like they use at horse riding schools, but when the fly flew in it moved it's head and couldn't see the mirror no more.