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Topic: FAO: Dave

Erik !saAqdaazn2 started this discussion 3 months ago #125,040

Alright I'm reinterested in your thinking problem. Please can you give me a clue and I'll try to give an answer this weekend.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 35 minutes later[^] [v] #1,356,349

Sure.

Try asking yourself what the horse might have been doing at the moment the fly flew into its mouth. A further hint: it does not involve the horse travelling or otherwise moving anywhere.

Good luck! I'll give you the answer if you don't get it.

Gaz from Lewisham joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 3 hours later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,371

@OP

> Alright I'm reinterested in your thinking problem. Please can you give me a clue and I'll try to give an answer this weekend.

Dude, seriously.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 months ago, 5 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,372

@previous (Gaz from Lewisham)
Just because the problem defeated you and the wallies over at TC doesn't mean it will get the better of Svet.

Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 8 hours later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,438

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
Just because there are naked pictures of your wife all over motherless and show me your wife doesn't mean it will get better either.

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 6 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,441

@previous (J)
God, you type like a retard

Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 3 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,442

@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)

Father Dave certainly does type like a retard. :)

Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U replied with this 3 months ago, 4 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,447

@previous (L)
A pile of dried dog poo has more brains than she does.

Anonymous L replied with this 3 months ago, 20 seconds later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,448

@previous (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
Father TTEH is a she?!

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 3 months ago, 7 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,452

@1,356,442 (L)
You're weirdly obsessed with him

Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 7 hours later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,470

@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Obsessed with who?

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 3 months ago, 2 hours later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,499

@previous (M)
You know who

Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 4 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,500

@1,356,470 (M)
*whom
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
*whom

Anonymous L replied with this 3 months ago, 3 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,518

@1,356,499 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
No.

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,536

@1,356,349 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
The horse died. It took its final breath when the fly flew out moments later so it is "gone"

Anonymous O joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,543

@previous (Erik !saAqdaazn2)

We already tried that.

Anonymous O double-posted this 3 months ago, 15 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,544

I think that the answer relies on Russian-language wordplay.

The Russian for word "ушёл" is the past tense of "уйти", which means "to leave" or "to go away". So when you say ушёл, that translates to "left" or "has gone".

This is where the double-meaning comes in. The lateral thinking riddle says that the fly flew into the horses mouth, and flies back out. Bit when the fly leaves, the word ушёл is used. Because it means "left" or "has gone", there is an implication that the horse has gone, when actually it's just the fly that flew out.

Anonymous O triple-posted this 3 months ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,545

I used machine translation to create a possible Russian version of the puzzle which would work with my answer above. Father Dave, please tell me what you think.

Муха залетела в пасть лошади, а когда вылетела, лошадь ушла. Что произошло?

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 23 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,550

So the horse hasn't gone at all, it's just the the fly flew away from the horses' location

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 3 months ago, 16 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,554

@1,356,518 (L)
Yes.

Anonymous O replied with this 3 months ago, 18 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,555

@1,356,550 (Erik !saAqdaazn2)

Yes, I think it's that there's a pun in Russian where even though it'd just that the fly flew out of the horses mouth, there's a suggestion that the horse disappeared.

Anonymous P joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 14 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,557

@1,356,550 (Erik !saAqdaazn2)
The problem says "the horse is gone"
Gone=DEAD!

Anonymous E replied with this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,558

@1,356,550 (Erik !saAqdaazn2)
All of those answers have been said 2 years ago at TC. Dave was banned over this among other issues. Did he ask you to start this up again?

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 months ago, 24 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,559

So I think now would be an opportune time to clearly re-state the original problem:

A fly flies into a horse's mouth and when it flies back out again moments later the horse is gone. What's happened?

It was previously noted that the solution does not involve the death of either creature, and the problem is specific to a horse and a fly (their qualities/features). The problem would not work with, say, a fish swimming into a shark's mouth or a mosquito flying into a bear's mouth.

Good luck everyone! I'll give the answer later if nobody gets it.

Anon replied with this 3 months ago, 11 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,563

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
> It was previously noted that the solution does not involve the death of either creature,

Nowhere is this stated in the original problem.

Given you're a priest who is in the business of dispensing bullshit on a daily basis, this is expected of you.

Anonymous Q joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,565

@1,356,559 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
> I'll give the answer later if nobody gets it.

We've heard that before

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 months ago, 14 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,566

@1,356,563 (Anon)

> >It was previously noted that the solution does not involve the death of either creature,
>
> Nowhere is this stated in the original problem.

Hence "previously noted", not "stated" you berk. This is not the first iteration of this thread.

Anonymous O replied with this 3 months ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,568

@1,356,559 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

I'm disappointed, I thought my russian language answer was certainly the way. I officially give up forever.

Anonymous R joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 8 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,572

The horse didn't disappear, it's likely a case of a common bot fly lifecycle, where the fly's larvae (which look like worms) enter the horse's mouth, travel to the stomach, and then are expelled in the spring, only to emerge as adult flies.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 months ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,575

@1,356,568 (O)

> I'm disappointed, I thought my russian language answer was certainly the way. I officially give up forever.

No, the problem has nothing to do with wordplay. It works in any language provided a horse and fly are the 2 creatures involved.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc double-posted this 3 months ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,576

@1,356,558 (E)

> All of those answers have been said 2 years ago at TC.

3 years ago to be precise. And somewhat embarrassingly, only 2 people have successfully come up with the answer in all that time (one here and one at TC).

Anonymous O replied with this 3 months ago, 15 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,580

@1,356,575 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

What's your opinion on my proposed solution anyway?

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 months ago, 11 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,586

@previous (O)
It doesn't work because the problem unambiguously states that it's the horse that is gone.

Anonymous Q replied with this 3 months ago, 50 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,587

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
And this answer? @1,356,572 (R)

(Edited 24 seconds later.)

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 months ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,589

@previous (Q)

> And this answer? @1,356,572 (R)

Negated by

@1,356,572 (R)

> The horse didn't disappear

To say nothing of that whole scenario being no definition of "moments later".

Anonymous O replied with this 3 months ago, 29 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,595

@1,356,586 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

Just in a general sense, I suppose. Does it actually make sense?

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 months ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,596

@previous (O)
Only if you remove the somewhat vital detail of the horse being gone.

Anonymous O replied with this 3 months ago, 59 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,624

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

But it could plausibly be considered a wordplay?

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 months ago, 8 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,629

@previous (O)
Like I said, only if other details are left out of the problem.

Anonymous O replied with this 3 months ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,681

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

So the Russian word wouldn't work as a humorous pun suggesting the horse is gone instead of the fly?

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 months ago, 9 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,684

@previous (O)
No.

Anonymous O replied with this 3 months ago, 18 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,690

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

That's a bitter disappointment, I researched heavily for that.

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 19 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,877

Alright. How about another clue.

Anonymous V joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 6 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,980

This is going to last years.

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 14 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,357,141

@previous (V)
I'm pretty sure Dave is keen to give us the answer.

Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 7 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,357,144

@previous (Erik !saAqdaazn2)
Look at what happened at Tinychan.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 months ago, 2 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,357,182

@1,356,877 (Erik !saAqdaazn2)

> Alright. How about another clue.

Let me think of a good one and I'll get back to you with it.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc double-posted this 3 months ago, 29 seconds later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,357,183

@1,356,980 (V)

> This is going to last years.

Don't be pessimistic. Believe in yourself. Think laterally.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc triple-posted this 3 months ago, 14 seconds later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,357,184

@1,357,141 (Erik !saAqdaazn2)

> I'm pretty sure Dave is keen to give us the answer.

That I am!

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc quadruple-posted this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,357,185

@1,357,144 (H)

> Look at what happened at Tinychan.

Indeed. A surly moderator locked a vibrant, engaging thread with 1500+ posts just because the answer kept eluding him. But we won't let that happen here!

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 3 days later, 6 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,099

How about that clue? I want to solve it this week.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 months ago, 8 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,166

@previous (Erik !saAqdaazn2)

> How about that clue? I want to solve it this week.

Apologies for the dilatoriness, I was in Moscow the last 2 days. I'll post a clue later this evening when I'm home 👍

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 40 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,171

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
Look forward to it. I'm confident I can solve it this weekend

Anonymous Z-8 joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 5 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,217

@previous (Erik !saAqdaazn2)
You won't.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 months ago, 13 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,225

@previous (Z-8)

> You won't.

Just because it stumped you doesn't mean Svet won't get it.

Right, a new clue. It'll be a 2-parter. The first part is this: when you imagine the problem's scenario in your mind's eye, on what (if anything) is the horse standing?

Anonymous O replied with this 3 months ago, 1 hour later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,245

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

Of courses the answer is that the horse is Pegasus and flew away itself.

Green !!bO/s3MBcD joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 3 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,290

@1,358,225 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
Is the answer that the fly flew into the horse's shit because flies like shit?

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 3 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,300

@1,358,225 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
Was the horse jumping?

Gaz from Lewisham replied with this 3 months ago, 50 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,303

@previous (Erik !saAqdaazn2)
Quit being a schmuck

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 8 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,304

@previous (Gaz from Lewisham)
Are you not even curious to the answer? I'm want this solved, it's the only way to stop Dave in his tracks.

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) double-posted this 3 months ago, 2 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,319

(Citing a deleted or non-existent reply.)
It will if we all put our heads together and solve his puzzle.

Anonymous Z-12 joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 1 hour later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,327

@1,358,245 (O)
"A horse is a horse, of course, of course
and no one can talk to a horse of course..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5sYTcchq2o

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 months ago, 52 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,328

@1,358,300 (Erik !saAqdaazn2)

> Was the horse jumping?

Now you're thinking!! Well done, you're thinking laterally now. This is how you're going to end up solving it.

But no, the horse is not jumping.

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 28 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,331

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
Right, I got my thinking cap on. Looking forward to part two.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 months ago, 8 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,333

@previous (Erik !saAqdaazn2)
I'll post part 2 of the clue later tonight when I get home. Stay tuned!

Gaz from Lewisham replied with this 3 months ago, 22 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,335

@1,358,304 (Erik !saAqdaazn2)

> Are you not even curious to the answer? I'm want this solved, it's the only way to stop Dave in his tracks.

It was solved years ago. But the trolling goes on. Once they found out at TC it was answered and he refused to acknowledge it he was banned for it. This is nothing but a troll for attention.

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 5 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,336

@previous (Gaz from Lewisham)
I think Dave has more respect for minichan and it's users. If we guess it right he'll play fair.

Anonymous Z-13 joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 1 hour later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,348

1. Is the fly a bot fly or just any old type of fly?

2. Is the horse a horsefly?

3. Is the horse "gone" because it flew away?

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 months ago, 13 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,350

@previous (Z-13)

> 1. Is the fly a bot fly or just any old type of fly?

A regular fly, like the type you'd see in a medium-sized living room or a field.

> 2. Is the horse a horsefly?

No.

> 3. Is the horse "gone" because it flew away?

"Moments later". Flies are not hypersonic.

Bless you for the questions, friend!

(Edited 1 minute later.)

Anonymous P replied with this 3 months ago, 3 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,410

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
> Flies are not hypersonic.
IF your Jesus can turn his urine into wine, a fly can be hypersonic.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 months ago, 4 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,539

Ok, I'm back! Sorry I've been gone all day, I just now got home and logged in to MC.

Right, on with part 2 of the clue.

You'll all recall the original formulation of the lateral thinking problem:

A fly flies into a horse's mouth and when it flies back out again moments later the horse is gone. What's happened?

You'll also recall I have said repeatedly that the solution does not involve wordplay and therefore the riddle works in any language.

But that doesn't mean we might not find clues within the wording...

And so, here is part 2 of the clue: go back through the riddle and ask yourself, "Each time I read the word fly or flies, am I reading it as a noun, adjective or verb?"

I'll give you all the weekend to mull that one over.

Green !!bO/s3MBcD replied with this 3 months ago, 3 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,585

This may go down as one of the greatest riddles in the history of mankind ever!

Green !!bO/s3MBcD double-posted this 3 months ago, 27 seconds later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,586

@1,358,539 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
Was it all a dream and the horse was gone because the dreamer woke up?

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 months ago, 5 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,587

@1,358,585 (Green !!bO/s3MBcD)

> This may go down as one of the greatest riddles in the history of mankind ever!

Bless you for saying so, friend!

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc double-posted this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,588

@1,358,586 (Green !!bO/s3MBcD)

> Was it all a dream and the horse was gone because the dreamer woke up?

An intriguing effort, but no, there is no soporific aspect to the riddle.

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 23 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,590

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
Did the horse just lie down?

Green !!bO/s3MBcD replied with this 3 months ago, 35 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,594

Was the horse eaten by another animal, which is why it is gone? Or is it just a horse's head so when this fly flies through the mouth there is no horse's body so the horse is gone?

Anonymous Z-13 replied with this 3 months ago, 6 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,634

> I have said repeatedly that the solution does not involve wordplay

> "Each time I read the word fly or flies, am I reading it as a noun, adjective or verb?"

This is an example of wordplay, you dolt.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 months ago, 2 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,639

@1,358,590 (Erik !saAqdaazn2)

> Did the horse just lie down?

Excellent!!! You're still thinking laterally!

But no, the horse doesn't just lie down. Keep thinking!

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,640

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
Okay, I'm actually excited for this now. Please don't ruin it and blert out the answer. I'm going to discuss it over lunch with friends and crack it by Sunday.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 months ago, 11 seconds later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,641

@1,358,594 (Green !!bO/s3MBcD)

> Was the horse eaten by another animal, which is why it is gone?

No but you're on the right line here insofar as thinking about what might be going on AROUND the events concerning the horse.

Gunther replied with this 3 months ago, 1 hour later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,650

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 10 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,652

@previous (Gunther)
Well damn.

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) double-posted this 3 months ago, 50 seconds later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,653

Is the fly jesus christ and the horse is the cave he walked out of after the resurrection?

Green !!bO/s3MBcD replied with this 3 months ago, 53 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,658

@1,358,641 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
Did the horse walk off a cliff and the fly fly out while it was still falling or get swallowed by a fissure?

Gunther replied with this 3 months ago, 23 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,660

The answer to this problem was already given a year and a half ago.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 months ago, 16 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,662

@previous (Gunther)

> The answer to this problem was already given a year and a half ago.

Then what is the answer?

Gunther replied with this 3 months ago, 6 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,665

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
You were just given it but you delete it. Again you are trying to hide the truth.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 months ago, 36 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,668

@previous (Gunther)

> You were just given it but you delete it. Again you are trying to hide the truth.

I didn't delete it. Post it again.

Gunther replied with this 3 months ago, 8 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,671

If your memory serves you this was to be your last post ever on TC.

Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U (OP) — 1.8 year ago, 5 minutes later, 1.3 year after the original post
@previous (Z-89)

So, the riddle is just HORSESHIT!

EXACTLY - WE have a Winner.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 months ago, 2 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,673

@previous (Gunther)
LOL, you're actually talking about that screenshot you posted? That's not me you colossal berk. The patently false "OP" didn't clue you in? No wonder you can't solve this riddle if this is the level of your sleuthing skills 😂🤣

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc double-posted this 3 months ago, 22 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,681

Still waiting on that solution, 'Gunther' my dear gullible berk.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc triple-posted this 3 months ago, 11 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,686

And 'Gunther' fell mysteriously silent :)

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc quadruple-posted this 3 months ago, 15 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,690

@1,358,658 (Green !!bO/s3MBcD)

> Did the horse walk off a cliff and the fly fly out while it was still falling or get swallowed by a fissure?

No but you're still on the right lines insofar as considering what the horse might have been DOING during this scenario. Keep thinking!

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 20 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,691

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
Did the horse bow it's head to eat?

Anonymous O replied with this 3 months ago, 34 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,695

@1,358,690 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

The horse was going.

Anonymous Z-13 replied with this 3 months ago, 2 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,713

(Citing a deleted or non-existent reply.)
E.g. he deleted this one:
> I have said repeatedly that the solution does not involve wordplay
> "Each time I read the word fly or flies, am I reading it as a noun, adjective or verb?"

This is an example of wordplay, you dolt.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 months ago, 3 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,715

@previous (Z-13)
And your point here would be?

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc double-posted this 3 months ago, 4 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,718

@1,358,713 (Z-13)

If it helps you, here's the full post you colossal berk:

@1,358,539 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

> Ok, I'm back! Sorry I've been gone all day, I just now got home and logged in to MC.
>
> Right, on with part 2 of the clue.
>
> You'll all recall the original formulation of the lateral thinking problem:
>
> A fly flies into a horse's mouth and when it flies back out again moments later the horse is gone. What's happened?
>
> You'll also recall I have said repeatedly that the solution does not involve wordplay and therefore the riddle works in any language.
>
> But that doesn't mean we might not find clues within the wording...
>
> And so, here is part 2 of the clue: go back through the riddle and ask yourself, "Each time I read the word fly or flies, am I reading it as a noun, adjective or verb?"
>
> I'll give you all the weekend to mull that one over.

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 9 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,721

100 get

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 months ago, 18 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,722

@previous (Erik !saAqdaazn2)
Congrats!

Anonymous Z-13 replied with this 3 months ago, 2 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,758

@1,358,715 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
If it helps, I'll strip it down further:
> am I reading it as a noun, adjective or verb?

This is an example of wordplay, you dolt. Lol, what a twat you are.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 months ago, 19 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,761

@previous (Z-13)
And so once again I will ask: your point here would be?

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 1 day later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,955

Did the horse roll over in they hay

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 months ago, 5 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,978

@previous (Erik !saAqdaazn2)

> Did the horse roll over in they hay

You're edging closer and closer to a breakthrough! Think about what the horse could have been on if NOT hay...

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 1 hour later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,982

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
Is the horse in a slaughter house?

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 months ago, 40 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,984

@previous (Erik !saAqdaazn2)
Heavens no!

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 3 months ago, 3 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,358,987

@1,358,978 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

A moving horsebox.

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 23 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,359,163

Alright. Im gonna guess it by the weekend. Don't give it away until then.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 months ago, 43 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,359,167

@previous (Erik !saAqdaazn2)

> Alright. Im gonna guess it by the weekend. Don't give it away until then.

I'll give you until midnight BST this coming Sunday and if you haven't got it by then I'll reveal the answer.

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 12 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,359,169

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
Sounds good. Im giving myself one good guess a day until then.

Ernie !C0B02lVUGE joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 6 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,359,211

I figured it out!

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 3 months ago, 3 days later, 2 weeks after the original post[^] [v] #1,359,725

The horse was a Looney Tune who had run off a cliff, and the fly flew in and out of his mouth in the moments that the horse was holding up a "Yikes" sign before he fell down the chasm.

Anonymous Z-21 joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 5 hours later, 2 weeks after the original post[^] [v] #1,359,779

The horse was gay and was beaten to a pulp at Putin's behest.

Anonymous Z-22 joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 1 day later, 2 weeks after the original post[^] [v] #1,360,273

@1,359,169 (Erik !saAqdaazn2)
Did you forget to post your answer this past weekend?

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 1 hour later, 2 weeks after the original post[^] [v] #1,360,298

@previous (Z-22)
I did! I need a new week. I shall beat this riddle by Sunday

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) double-posted this 2 months ago, 1 day later, 2 weeks after the original post[^] [v] #1,360,624

@1,359,167 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
2 guesses.

1. Was the hourse crossing a stream or river?

2. Did the horse rear up ?

Quinn from Shoreditch replied with this 2 months ago, 4 hours later, 2 weeks after the original post[^] [v] #1,360,663

@previous (Erik !saAqdaazn2)

> 2 guesses.
>
> 1. Was the hourse crossing a stream or river?

Oooooh, you might be going in the right direction here!! Very important question though: do you mean swimming across a river or being otherwise transported across?

> 2. Did the horse rear up ?

Not relevant. That is to say, if it did, it would not affect the problem.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc double-posted this 2 months ago, 34 seconds later, 2 weeks after the original post[^] [v] #1,360,664

@previous (Quinn from Shoreditch)
Ha, forgot to switch over! That's me, natch.

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 38 minutes later, 2 weeks after the original post[^] [v] #1,360,666

@1,360,663 (Quinn from Shoreditch)
Wait.. so you don't actually live in Russia?

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 7 minutes later, 2 weeks after the original post[^] [v] #1,360,667

@previous (Erik !saAqdaazn2)
No. For the last 7 years I've lived in Shoreditch with my life partner Emilia and his husband.

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 11 minutes later, 2 weeks after the original post[^] [v] #1,360,668

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
You should have said sooner. I pass through Shoreditch almost daily.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 3 minutes later, 2 weeks after the original post[^] [v] #1,360,670

@previous (Erik !saAqdaazn2)
We should grab a blue algae latte and discuss Tracey Emin sometime.

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 4 minutes later, 2 weeks after the original post[^] [v] #1,360,671

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
Fun fact. She went to my school.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 19 minutes later, 2 weeks after the original post[^] [v] #1,360,674

@previous (Erik !saAqdaazn2)
Was her graduation work "17 Used Tampons - A Meditation on Wittgenstein's Tractatus"?

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 18 minutes later, 2 weeks after the original post[^] [v] #1,360,675

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
No, it was a painting of a horsefly.

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 8 hours later, 2 weeks after the original post[^] [v] #1,360,852

@1,360,663 (Quinn from Shoreditch)

The horse was dead and gently floating down the river, a swollen and bloated horsecorpse.

Anonymous S joined in and replied with this 2 months ago, 1 week later, 4 weeks after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,433

It's been four weeks. Eventually it will be over a year.

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 10 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,482

(Citing a deleted or non-existent reply.)
I'm sure he will if we all ask for it.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 1 hour later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,500

@previous (Erik !saAqdaazn2)

> I'm sure he will if we all ask for it.

Precisely.

"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: for every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened" - Matthew 7:7-8

Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 2 months ago, 1 hour later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,505

(Citing a deleted or non-existent reply.)
Now it is up to a month.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 8 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,509

@previous (I)
See:
@1,363,500 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

> > I'm sure he will if we all ask for it.
>
> Precisely.
>
> "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: for every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened" - Matthew 7:7-8

Anonymous Z-14 joined in and replied with this 2 months ago, 2 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,521

What's the riddle, again?

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 2 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,537

@previous (Z-14)
A fly flies into a horse's mouth and when it flies back out again moments later the horse is gone. What's happened?

Amusingly, nobody has yet focused on the 2nd and final sentence of the riddle.

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 9 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,540

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

That's funny, because you said elsewhere that two people have directly given the answer.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 7 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,541

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
Nobody in this thread you berk.

Anonymous Z-14 replied with this 2 months ago, 6 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,542

@1,363,537 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
That makes no sense.

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 4 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,544

@1,363,541 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

That's not what you said.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 3 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,545

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
It was obvious from the context to anyone who isn't a card-carrying member of the Royal Society of Berks.

Anonymous Z-23 joined in and replied with this 2 months ago, 5 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,546

@1,358,099 (Erik !saAqdaazn2)

> How about that clue? I want to solve it this week.

You must be disappointed.

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 2 months ago, 5 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,548

@1,363,541 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
So somebody did give you the right answer and you didnt announce the results?

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 9 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,579

@1,363,545 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

I think it's more likely I've just caught you out in a lie and you're desperately trying to paper over the cracks.

Anonymous Z-24 joined in and replied with this 2 months ago, 32 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,583

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
You just need to think laterally.

Anonymous Z-13 replied with this 2 months ago, 35 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,586

@1,363,537 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
> What's happened?
You're implying that the answer to the riddle is the riddle itself. What's happened was:

A fly flew into a horse's mouth and when it flew back out again moments later the horse was gone.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 3 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,602

@1,363,548 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)

> So somebody did give you the right answer and you didnt announce the results?

To the best of my knowledge there are at least 2 people who know the solution, one is at Tinychan and the other is Fake Anon (the moderator here at Minichan). Back when I actually took this seriously and accusations that there was no solution legitimately annoyed me I PMed him the answer on the understanding that he would publicly confirm that I had sent it to him, which he did. His acknowledgement no longer exists because the thread has been deleted (by me, because of the Tinychan Pedophile's spam) but I've no doubt he'll reconfirm that I sent it to him if asked.

I am also prepared to PM to Svet, via a moderator, the solution to the problem. I will do it today if he asks me, again on the understanding that he confirms in this thread that I sent it to him, a solution does exist, and it is a genuinely clever riddle (in other words it's not some lame wordplay or something). Like I said at this stage I'm happy to play along with the silliness but when I first posted the riddle 3 years ago it was a serious problem from a respected Russian TV show and it irritated me when people said I had made it up.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc double-posted this 2 months ago, 20 seconds later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,603

@1,363,583 (Z-24)

> You just need to think laterally.

This.

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 4 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,632

@1,363,602 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
No wait! I want a few more trys

Anonymous Z-29 joined in and replied with this 2 months ago, 1 hour later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,642

@1,363,602 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

> it irritated me when people said I had made it up.

We'll keep that in mind. :)

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 4 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,644

@previous (Z-29)
"Irritated" - past tense you berk. See:
@1,363,602 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
> 3 years ago
See also:
@1,363,602 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
> at this stage I'm happy to play along with the silliness

Another card-carrying member of the Royal Society of Berks 😂

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc double-posted this 2 months ago, 58 seconds later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,645

@1,363,632 (Erik !saAqdaazn2)

> No wait! I want a few more trys

As you wish! Let me know in the future if you want me to PM you the solution. Good luck!

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 15 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,655

I feel like every solution has been given already, I want to know why you didn't announce the winner when the Tinychan person gave the right answer.

Anyway the horse is a reflection in still water and the fly fucked up the image by making it ripple.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 16 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,659

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)

> I feel like every solution has been given already

They used to say the same about Goldbach's Conjecture.

> I want to know why you didn't announce the winner when the Tinychan person gave the right answer.

Because the solution was not posted publicly in the thread, it was PMed to me. I won't say more or else there's a risk I'll reveal who it was and I don't want to do that.

> Anyway the horse is a reflection in still water and the fly fucked up the image by making it ripple.

What happened to "I feel like every solution has been given already"? You're still coming up with new ideas!

Keep trying, don't give up.

Anonymous Z-36 joined in and replied with this 2 months ago, 3 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,703

I’ve heard this one on some other website. I don’t remember what the answer was other than that it didn’t make sense.

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 42 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,717

@1,363,659 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

The horse happened to have fallen out of a plane and was dropping at terminal velocity. The fly didn't fly out itself, but rather flew out by the force of momentum.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 6 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,719

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
That wouldn't entail the horse being "gone" moments later. I've skydived, you're not falling so fast that you disappear from the pilot's view within moments!

Keep thinking though! You'll get there, I believe in you. If it helps you, I'll give you a clue: the horse needn't be moving at any point during the scenario.

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 18 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,722

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

From the reference point of the fly, the horse disappears immediately.

Is the fly moving during this scenario?

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 25 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,725

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)

> From the reference point of the fly, the horse disappears immediately.

There is no way of knowing that. You can't know the fly's perspective, much less what it sees, to say nothing of the fact that just because thing A can't see thing B, it doesn't follow that thing B is therefore gone. There will be things in your truck that you can't see when you're driving but they're still there!

> Is the fly moving during this scenario?

Naturally. It "flies into a horse's mouth" and "flies back out moments later".

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 8 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,726

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

From the relative point of reference of the fly, then.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 2 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,727

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)

> From the relative point of reference of the fly, then.

Which would be what exactly?

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,728

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

In the air.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 15 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,729

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
That's its location you berk. Your scenario hinges upon which direction it is looking, and you can't know what that is. If I tell you the fly is looking down towards earth for example your 'solution' falls apart like a freshly-baked apple crumble.

Anonymous Z-37 joined in and replied with this 2 months ago, 2 days later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,162

@1,363,433 (S)
Now it's over a month.

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 1 hour later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,176

@1,363,729 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

No, because the point of view of the scenario is a third party who is observing the fly and horse interact, from the relative position of the fly.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 53 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,179

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
Then why can the "third party" not see the horse if his "relative position" is of the fly? All you've done here is substitute the fly for a third party, which does nothing to salvage your scenario if the 3rd party is facing the horse as it descends.

Think, my dear truckie. Think!

Meta joined in and replied with this 2 months ago, 11 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,181

It was never actually a fly. It was a bee.

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 7 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,194

@1,364,179 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

For, you see, the horse has dropped down due to the forces of gravity. The fly, however, has not dropped.

(Edited 22 seconds later.)

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 10 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,195

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
See, now you're thinking laterally!

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 2 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,205

@1,364,194 (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)

> For, you see, the horse has dropped down due to the forces of gravity. The fly, however, has not dropped.

And if the fly is looking downwards then the horse is not "gone" by your own definition. We've been over this my itinerant friend.

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 30 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,228

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

Doesn't matter where the fly is looking, because the observer is a third party viewing the fly, and only the fly. From the point of view of this third party, the horse has gone.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 43 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,236

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)

> Doesn't matter where the fly is looking, because the observer is a third party viewing the fly, and only the fly.

If this is the case then what's the need for the rest of your scenario? Why not just simplify your solution to: "The riddle is from the perspective of a person who for whatever reason cannot see the horse?"

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 3 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,257

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

That is also a good lateral thinking answer. Good job!

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 3 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,258

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
Thanks 😊

A User double-posted this 2 months ago, 6 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,333

This thread will be locked for 17 minutes while the Tinychan Pedophile cools himself off a bit.

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 2 months ago, 6 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,341

@previous (A User)
He's such a pathetic loser

A User replied with this 2 months ago, 16 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,355

@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)

> He's such a pathetic loser

He's posted over 120 Dave posts in the last 2 hours. He's having a full-on psychotic break right now.

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 11 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,411

I fear my thread is getting derailed and that's unfortunate.

We need to get back to debating this riddle and thinking latterly.

My latest guess. @Dave, was the dead? And I don't mean "gone" as in dead, but the fly flew into a dead horses mouth and moments later it few out as the horse was dropped through a trapdoor

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) double-posted this 2 months ago, 5 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,447

(Citing a deleted or non-existent reply.)
I disagree. Dave may be a putin apologist but he has held off giving me the answer at my request a d even offered to PM me the answer.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 7 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,449

@previous (Erik !saAqdaazn2)

> I disagree. Dave may be a putin apologist but he has held off giving me the answer at my request a d even offered to PM me the answer.

All of this. How can Anon Z-47 doubt the existence of the solution when I've specifically offered to PM it to Svet??

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 20 seconds later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,450

The horse is imaginary

Anonymous Z-49 joined in and replied with this 2 months ago, 4 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,483

This topic is going nowhere.

Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE joined in and replied with this 2 months ago, 23 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,488

@previous (Z-49)
The journey is the destination, man. Try to think laterally.

Anonymous Z-52 joined in and replied with this 2 months ago, 27 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,498

@1,356,372 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
9001% of them

(Edited 11 seconds later.)

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 14 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,599

The horse swallowed the fly, it flew out of its mouth but the wrong way

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 5 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,610

@Dave did the horse breath out harshly ?

Anonymous Z-54 joined in and replied with this 2 months ago, 2 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,613

@previous (Erik !saAqdaazn2)

> breath out

Berk.

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 54 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,617

The horse is a metaphor for the flies insane stamina, it got very tired from flapping its wings.

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 5 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,656

@1,364,613 (Z-54)
Bork*

Anonymous Z-58 joined in and replied with this 2 months ago, 24 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,658

@previous (Erik !saAqdaazn2)
lol

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 12 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,694

The horse was a photograph on a electric billboard and at that moment the billboard changed to another advertisement.

Anonymous Z-70 joined in and replied with this 2 months ago, 1 day later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,823

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
I have a question about the horse.

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 41 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,828

@previous (Z-70)

What horse?

A User replied with this 2 months ago, 2 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,830

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
Well played 🤣

Meta replied with this 2 months ago, 3 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,868

Shut up you niggers.

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 6 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,883

@previous (Meta)
Not sure if real Metæ

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) double-posted this 2 months ago, 1 day later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,365,023

A question for Dave. Where did you originally hear this riddle?

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 2 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,365,027

@previous (Erik !saAqdaazn2)

> A question for Dave. Where did you originally hear this riddle?

It was a question on a Russian intellectual game show called Что? Где? Когда?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/What%3F_Where%3F_When%3F

The show has been running for decades and the horse/fly problem is generally considered to be one of the most ingenious questions in the game's history.

(Edited 25 minutes later.)

Anonymous Z-13 replied with this 2 months ago, 11 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,365,029

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
> one [of] the most ingenious questions in the game's history.
And yet there isn't a single mention of this riddle anywhere else online...

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 16 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,365,030

@previous (Z-13)
Yes there is. As an example it can be found on the 'Top 10 Questions As Voted By Viewers' section on the show's VK page.

Anonymous Z-13 replied with this 2 months ago, 1 hour later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,365,031

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
Link needed.

dw !p9hU6ckyqw joined in and replied with this 2 months ago, 4 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,365,033

What was the question again

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 21 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,365,036

@1,365,031 (Z-13)
Do you have a VK account?

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc double-posted this 2 months ago, 32 seconds later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,365,037

@1,365,033 (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)

> What was the question again

A fly flies into a horse's mouth and when it flies back out again moments later the horse is gone. What's happened?

dw !p9hU6ckyqw replied with this 2 months ago, 36 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,365,041

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
A fly flew into a horse's mouth and when it flew back out again moments later the horse was gone

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 2 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,365,082

@1,365,037 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
Is the horse travelling in a horse box?

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 11 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,365,083

@previous (Erik !saAqdaazn2)
If it is, it has no bearing on the solution.

Anonymous P replied with this 2 months ago, 48 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,365,101

The horse has likely just disappeared due to the horse disappearing trick, where the horse is magically removed from the location. The fly entering and leaving the mouth is a common distraction to make the trick more believable

Anonymous S replied with this 2 months ago, 9 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,365,213

@1,365,036 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
No.

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 1 day later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,365,363

@1,365,101 (P)
Okay Dave. Please comment on this.

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 4 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,365,386

@1,365,027 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

The only horse being gone riddle on that show, as far as I'm aware (and I've looked on VK...) is the one that says "A horse is gone. Where?", the answer being "In the past".

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 30 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,365,391

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)

> The only horse being gone riddle on that show, as far as I'm aware (and I've looked on VK...) is the one that says "A horse is gone. Where?", the answer being "In the past".

There have been 493 episodes of the show spread over 43 seasons with each episode lasting up to 90 minutes. Are you suggesting you've watched every one?

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 20 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,365,393

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

I've performed an advanced deep dive into the system. Link the top ten list.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 9 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,365,397

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)

> I've performed an advanced deep dive into the system. Link the top ten list.

Hmmm...

@1,365,386 (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)

> (and I've looked on VK...)

Официальный профиль телевизионного Клуба «Что? Где? Когда?» you berk. You want me to type it in for you too??

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 49 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,365,399

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

I already looked on there one hour ago when I replied and I see no such post. I want you to link the post.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 5 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,365,400

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
Something doesn't add up here. You're asking me to link to something which you've literally claimed you're currently looking at.

Let's do it this way, which 'community' (I'm assuming your settings are set to English) are you using when you say you "looked on VK"? Post the link to the page you claim to be looking at, or just screenshot it if you prefer.

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 4 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,365,401

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

> Something doesn't add up here. You're asking me to link to something which you've literally claimed you're currently looking at.

I browsed the feed, and I cannot see the post you're referencing.

> Let's do it this way, which 'community' (I'm assuming your settings are set to English) are you using when you say you "looked on VK"? Post the link to the page you claim to be looking at, or just screenshot it if you prefer.

/chgktv

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 1 hour later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,365,412

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
You can read Russian, right?

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 14 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,365,413

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

Of course not. I use machine translation which is perfectly readable.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 10 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,365,414

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
The 6th post down on the group's front page, how is your machine translating it for you?

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 1 hour later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,365,451

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

"Did you know that at first the show "What? Where? When?" did not have a team of TV viewers? Interesting facts and questions forThe first games were searched for by the editorial team.

After a while, TV viewers began doing this, and now anyone can come up with and send a question for the game. Try it yourself - send your questions for experts in the most convenient way for you ⬆

. Good luck!"

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 3 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,365,453

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
Finally we're making progress! Right, the post below that, click on the comments.

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 2 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,365,454

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

People are very unhappy that there are no spring and summer finals this year, aren't they? Olesya Alekseeva-Ishanova in particular seems extremely hurt.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 11 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,365,510

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)

> People are very unhappy that there are no spring and summer finals this year, aren't they?

Wouldn't you be?

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 1 hour later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,365,518

Can we please have another clue?

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 7 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,365,519

@previous (Erik !saAqdaazn2)

> Can we please have another clue?

Sure, I'll post one later tonight. I'm currently cooking up a nice piping hot lampredotto and it requires all my attention.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc double-posted this 2 months ago, 5 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,365,520

For those who don't know, lampredotto is produced with one of the four stomachs from bovine meat, the abomasum. It goes through a lengthy cooking process with tomato, onion, parsley and celery. A dish of very poor origin, nowadays it is upscale Florentine street food and usually eaten in a sandwich, the semelle, salted unlike other types of Tuscan bread.

And so as you can see, cooking it requires all my attention.

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 2 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,365,524

@1,365,510 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

I'm not particularly bothered, because they'll have a larger end-of-year final instead. It's not the end of the world.

Anyway, why did you ask me to look at these comments?

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 52 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,365,530

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)

> I'm not particularly bothered, because they'll have a larger end-of-year final instead. It's not the end of the world.

This is a well-argued point and I like the sense of perspective you bring at the end.

> Anyway, why did you ask me to look at these comments?

First things first, did you look at them?

Anonymous P replied with this 2 months ago, 18 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,365,535

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
The horse has likely just disappeared due to the horse disappearing trick, where the horse is magically removed from the location. The fly entering and leaving the mouth is a common distraction to make the trick more believable

Not even a comment from you?

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 5 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,365,541

@1,365,530 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

Yes, there are many complaints that the spring season has ended without a final.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 3 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,365,543

@1,365,535 (P)
I mean, if the answer were simply "it's magic!" it would hardly be a lateral thinking problem, much less one of the ten highest rated questions in a show that's been going for 43 years!

Anonymous P replied with this 2 months ago, 14 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,365,546

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
1: You limit the solution to just a single one solution. No Room for alternate solutions -
The definition to Lateral Thinking is:
Lateral thinking is a manner of solving problems using an indirect and creative approach via reasoning that is not immediately obvious. Synonymous to thinking outside the box, it involves ideas that may not be obtainable using only traditional step-by-step logic..

Of course this is not the only possible definition to lateral thinking.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 2 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,365,547

@previous (P)

> The definition to Lateral Thinking is:
> Lateral thinking is a manner of solving problems using an indirect and creative approach via reasoning that is not immediately obvious.

None of which applies to "it's magic!" If it did then "it's magic!" would be the answer to literally every lateral thinking question, thus rendering them meaningless.

Meta replied with this 2 months ago, 30 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,365,571

I SAID SHUT UP YOU GODDAMN NIGGERS

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 41 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,365,579

@previous (Meta)
Not sure if real metæ 🤔

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) double-posted this 2 months ago, 14 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,365,709

Two things,

1. How was the lampredotto?

2. Does it matter what breed/type of horse it is?

Anonymous Z-97 joined in and replied with this 2 months ago, 7 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,365,742

@1,364,828 (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)

> What horse?

lol

Meta replied with this 2 months ago, 1 day later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,365,979

I SAID SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 7 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,366,000

@1,365,709 (Erik !saAqdaazn2)

> Two things,
>
> 1. How was the lampredotto?

Divine, thanks for asking. Say what you like about the Italians but they know their way around a cow's stomach.

> 2. Does it matter what breed/type of horse it is?

No, not in the slightest.

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 6 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,366,002

My answer. The horse dropped through some kind of trapdoor at a slaughter house.

(Edited 14 seconds later.)

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 4 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,366,003

@previous (Erik !saAqdaazn2)
Mate, horses aren't slaughtered like Saddam Hussein, they don't wrap a rope around its neck and kick a chair.

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 24 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,366,004

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

They do at Riddlesolve Slaughter Emporium

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 5 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,366,005

@1,366,003 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
I'm pretty sure they eat horse meat in Russia. I thought the horse might be in a slaughter house.

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 2 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,366,006

The horse was a photo of a horse, the one that Saint George was riding on the coat of arms of Russian Empire. The fly happened to fly into a small hole in the flag at the imperial palace on the 15th March 1917, and was disturbed by the flag being taken down after the abdication of the Tsar, causing it to leave it's resting position. Afterwards, the coat of arms no longer had any legal basis so it was "gone"

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 7 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,366,007

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)

> The horse was a photo of a horse, the one that Saint George was riding on the coat of arms of Russian Empire. The fly happened to fly into a small hole in the flag at the imperial palace on the 15th March 1917, and was disturbed by the flag being taken down after the abdication of the Tsar, causing it to leave it's resting position. Afterwards, the coat of arms no longer had any legal basis so it was "gone"

You're on the right lines here. See, I told you reading those VK comments would pay dividends.

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 45 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,366,008

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

The question comes from the pre-glasnost time. The fly is a metaphor for the Lenin and the horse is a metaphor for the corrupt bourgeoisie. By itself, a fly can do very little harm to something as solid and large as a horse, or an empire, but, one single fly bravely leading the charge in the face of extreme danger, and risking everything, was able to topple the corrupt Tsardom and demolish it, leaving nothing behind except the freedom to build a new socialist soviet republic.

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 3 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,366,009

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)

Wow, it was so obvious.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 3 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,366,029

You see, our cereal fetishist friend up there accused me of trying to waste his time by having him translate a bunch of comments on the social media page of a popular Russian game show. I presume an apology will be forthcoming?

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,366,030

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

No, because those comments have nothing to do with any answers I've given since.

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU double-posted this 2 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,366,031

I'm still waiting for you to show me where this supposed "top 10 user-submitted questions" article is, as it appears to be nowhere on the VK page you said it would be on.

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 1 hour later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,366,037

The horse is a statue that is demolished?

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 1 hour later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,366,047

(Citing a deleted or non-existent reply.)

No complementary fruit?

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 3 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,366,049

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)

> No complementary fruit?

They're lucky they get water. Close the Surgutneftegas deal I'll consider throwing in a few apples.

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 39 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,366,052

(Citing a deleted or non-existent reply.)
Do they know you're English?

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 9 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,366,054

@previous (Erik !saAqdaazn2)

> Do they know you're English?

Yes, my name, accent, passport and years of knowing me gives me away.

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 1 hour later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,366,066

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
What do they think of that. Have they told you they want to see your country come to a fiery end?

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) double-posted this 2 months ago, 22 seconds later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,366,067

@1,366,054 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
And is the horse a statue?

(Edited 9 seconds later.)

Anonymous Z-28 replied with this 2 months ago, 10 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,366,068

@previous (Erik !saAqdaazn2)
Why do you keep buying into the Priests bullshit?

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 3 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,366,069

@previous (Anonymous Z-28)
I genuinely want to know the answer but will feel like a failure if he just tells me. It's been going on for so long

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 28 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,366,078

@1,366,067 (Erik !saAqdaazn2)

No, the horse is the corrupt and bloated Tsarist state

dw !p9hU6ckyqw replied with this 2 months ago, 21 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,366,089

@1,366,069 (Erik !saAqdaazn2)
Do you have a longer table at work

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 11 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,366,090

In Russia it is customary to use very long tables at work because you never know when the person you're talking to might try to stick a knife in you.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc double-posted this 2 months ago, 3 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,366,091

@1,366,067 (Erik !saAqdaazn2)

> And is the horse a statue?

And as for this, no, the horse is not a statue. It is a regular flesh and blood horse of the kind you'd expect to see roaming any glade or monticle.

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 months ago, 24 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,366,098

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

So what you're saying is that it's not a metaphor for the glory of the USSR?

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 months ago, 4 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,366,099

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)

> So what you're saying is that it's not a metaphor for the glory of the USSR?

I'm saying you're on the right lines.

Green !!bO/s3MBcD replied with this 1 month ago, 6 days later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,366,731

Did the horse spit the fly out (therefore it's not flying like flies does but flying through the air because it has been spit out)?

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 4 days later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,367,608

Did the horse fall over?

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 1 month ago, 1 day later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,367,937

@previous (Erik !saAqdaazn2)

> Did the horse fall over?

No, it's a perfectly stable horse.

Geddit? "Stable" 🤣😂🤣😂

Anonymous Z-114 joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 1 hour later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,367,940

Holy greyscale Batman! Cars don't come in fun colors anymore.

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 2 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,367,962

(Citing a deleted or non-existent reply.)
I remember the 90s when cars had more colours.

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 1 month ago, 37 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,367,971

@previous (Erik !saAqdaazn2)

Alright grandad

Green !!bO/s3MBcD replied with this 1 month ago, 4 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,367,977

The horse bolted?

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 1 month ago, 1 day later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,368,256

@previous (Green !!bO/s3MBcD)

> The horse bolted?

The colt did not bolt, no.

Green !!bO/s3MBcD replied with this 1 month ago, 12 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,368,389

Was the horse being eaten so when the fly flew out the horse was no longer there as it had been consumed by another animal?

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 1 month ago, 16 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,368,481

@previous (Green !!bO/s3MBcD)

> Was the horse being eaten so when the fly flew out the horse was no longer there as it had been consumed by another animal?

Somebody already proposed that but no, the horse was not being eaten. Realistically nothing can consume a horse in the "moments" it took the fly to fly in and out of the horse's mouth.

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 44 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,368,487

(Citing a deleted or non-existent reply.)
Oh wow. We have similar flipcharts. Is there a magnetic white board under the paper too?

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 1 month ago, 5 days later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,369,382

@previous (Erik !saAqdaazn2)

> Oh wow. We have similar flipcharts. Is there a magnetic white board under the paper too?

In an homage to Good Will Hunting, I'm considering writing the lateral thinking problem on the flipchart to see if any of the cleaners can solve it.

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 37 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,369,391

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
Do it in Russian and ill do it my end in English

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 1 month ago, 17 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,369,642

@previous (Erik !saAqdaazn2)

> Do it in Russian and ill do it my end in English

The thing is, if I write it as it's phrased in Russian then they could very easily just copy the problem into yandex.ru (Russia's version of Google) and be instantly taken to the solution. I don't trust them not to cheat.

Tired Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 17 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,369,643

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
Write it in Latin then.

Anonymous Z-123 joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 6 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,369,660

@1,369,642 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
Why not just give your fake solution to the problem as you promised years ago.

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 1 month ago, 1 hour later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,369,697

@1,369,642 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

Except you said that the way it's phrased has nothing to do with the solution, and it's just as easy to solve in English as it is in Russian.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 1 month ago, 11 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,369,703

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)

> Except you said that the way it's phrased has nothing to do with the solution,

Nope, I said it's not a solution that relies on wordplay. How it's phrased obviously matters which is why I'm meticulous about always phrasing it exactly the same way.

> and it's just as easy to solve in English as it is in Russian.

It is. This fact has nothing to do with the post you're replying to.

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 1 month ago, 6 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,369,705

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

Alright, fair enough.

Meta replied with this 1 month ago, 2 days later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,370,096

The fly was CGI

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 2 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,370,117

Is the horse traveling in a horse box?

Anonymous Z-123 replied with this 1 month ago, 7 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,370,159

@1,370,096 (Meta)

> The fly was CGI

That is an appreciated use of Lateral Thinking. The perverted Priest would never approve.

Erik The Great !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 3 days later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,370,846

@1,370,117 (Erik !saAqdaazn2)

> Is the horse traveling in a horse box?

Need an update on this

Anonymous Z-52 replied with this 1 month ago, 1 hour later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,370,852

@1,367,971 (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 1 month ago, 4 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,370,893

@1,370,846 (Erik The Great !saAqdaazn2)

> > Is the horse traveling in a horse box?
>
> Need an update on this

Apologies for the dilatoriness, I haven't checked in on this thread for a few days.

No, the horse is not travelling in any way, shape or form. Think of it as just standing around in a field somewhere, looking off into the distance.

Though of course, you may want to think about why the horse's mouth was open so that the fly could fly in...

Erik The Great !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 3 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,370,899

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
Nice hint.

Can we come to an agreement that you check in every 3 days ? I think im ready to crack it.

Erik The Great !saAqdaazn2 (OP) double-posted this 1 month ago, 36 seconds later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,370,900

@1,370,893 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
Was the horse yawning then laid down to sleep?

Anonymous Z-142 joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 21 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,371,094

@previous (Erik The Great !saAqdaazn2)
How do you define a horse?

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 23 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,371,096

@previous (Z-142)
I define a horse as a horse

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) double-posted this 1 month ago, 12 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,371,213

300 get

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) triple-posted this 4 weeks ago, 1 day later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,371,454

300 get

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 4 weeks ago, 24 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,371,455

@previous (Erik !saAqdaazn2)

> 300 get

Congrats! 🎉

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc double-posted this 4 weeks ago, 4 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,371,456

@1,370,899 (Erik The Great !saAqdaazn2)

> Nice hint.
>
> Can we come to an agreement that you check in every 3 days ? I think im ready to crack it.

And yes, I will endeavour to check in on this thread at least once every 3 days forthwith!

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc triple-posted this 4 weeks ago, 56 seconds later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,371,457

@1,370,900 (Erik The Great !saAqdaazn2)

> Was the horse yawning then laid down to sleep?

No, this was not the sequence of events.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc quadruple-posted this 4 weeks ago, 33 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,371,458

@1,371,454 (Erik !saAqdaazn2)
One of your old pals is currently spazzing the fuck out by the way and deleting tonnes of posts from this thread.

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 4 weeks ago, 11 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,371,459

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
Is it Metæ?

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 4 weeks ago, 9 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,371,460

@previous (Erik !saAqdaazn2)
No.

Anonymous Z-144 joined in and replied with this 4 weeks ago, 5 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,371,471

296 GET

Green !3JXF/9.HYk replied with this 3 weeks ago, 21 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,371,584

@1,371,459 (Erik !saAqdaazn2)

> Is it Metæ?

It is I!! Not only am I a fuck up in life but also watching over the foras. lol

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 hour later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,371,591

@previous (Green !3JXF/9.HYk)
God help us.

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 1 hour later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,371,603

300 get

Anonymous Z-146 joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 6 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,371,633

@previous (Erik !saAqdaazn2)
294 GET

Anonymous H replied with this 3 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,371,634

@previous (Z-146)

> 294 GET

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 54 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,371,636

Green shouldn't be a mod

Anonymous Z-157 joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 day later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,371,938

288 GET

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 3 weeks ago, 3 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,371,954

Oh dear, there seems to be an angry mod ITT who doesn't enjoy the puzzle of the unsolvable riddle.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 weeks ago, 6 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,371,972

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
Green's not angry, he just keeps deleting shitloads of posts to prevent the thread reaching 300 for some reason.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,371,973

@1,371,954 (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)

> the unsolvable riddle.

And the riddle is not "unsolvable". You just need to think laterally.

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 3 weeks ago, 6 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,371,996

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

Is the answer that the fly thought laterally when it flew into the horses mouth?

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 hour later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,372,012

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
Wanton silliness will not take you any nearer the solution.

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 3 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,372,027

Green is doing what Namefag did to tinychan. It's killing off the desire to contribute

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 hour later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,372,037

@1,372,012 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

Is that a maybe?

Anonymous Z-123 replied with this 3 weeks ago, 20 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,372,041

@1,371,973 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

> > the unsolvable riddle.
>
> And the riddle is not "unsolvable". You just need to think laterally.

Good luck thinking Laterally solutions only can cum up with just one solution.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 weeks ago, 23 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,372,043

@1,372,037 (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)

> Is that a maybe?

It's a "great problems are not solved with frivolous nincompoopery".

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 3 weeks ago, 2 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,372,063

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

Would you say that this riddle being "great" is a clue to the solving of the riddle?

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 weeks ago, 12 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,372,109

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
If you give up, just let me know and I'll post the solution.

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,372,110

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
Not yet. I'm gonna crack it this weekend

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 3 weeks ago, 5 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,372,112

@1,372,109 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

Why would I give up trying to solve the mystery of the horse that went?

Is the answer the death of Genghis Khan?

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,372,114

@1,372,110 (Erik !saAqdaazn2)

> Not yet. I'm gonna crack it this weekend

Fair enough, I'll give you more time. Good luck!

Anonymous Z-13 replied with this 3 weeks ago, 6 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,372,165

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,372,166

Is the horse and fly in some kind of Star Trek holodeck situation? Maybe the holodeck is malfunctioning?

(Edited 13 seconds later.)

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 weeks ago, 13 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,372,171

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
No, it has nothing to do with the Force or midi-chlorians.

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,372,172

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

Is it a literal horse and fly?

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 11 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,372,225

I asked tinychan for help and it didnt go down too well

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 weeks ago, 52 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,372,226

@previous (Erik !saAqdaazn2)
Ha, I wondered what happened to that thead. I replied to it by the way, I was the guy who told the skeptical anon who thought I wasn't a real priest that "he" (i.e me) had proven it one time over here on MC.

But yeah, mentioning the horse/fly problem over there won't last long. The mods still have emotional scarring from it 😂

Anonymous Z-123 replied with this 3 weeks ago, 8 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,372,259

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
> The mods still have emotional scarring from it
You did prove that Priests are just Trolls and are paid to lie for a living.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 3 weeks ago, 16 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,372,260

@previous (Z-123)

> >The mods still have emotional scarring from it
> You did prove that

Bless you for saying so, friend!

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 3 weeks ago, 21 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,372,452

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

So is the answer "the death of Genghis Khan"?

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU double-posted this 2 weeks ago, 9 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,372,581

I think maybe it's a joke about the relative motion of the earth. When the fly flew out of the horses mouth, the earth had already rotated, taking the horse with it.

From the point of view of an alien observer external to the Earth, the horse had "gone" from it's absolute position in space.

From the point of view

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU triple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 21 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,372,754

The fly was eaten and entered Valhalla

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 weeks ago, 3 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,372,776

@1,372,225 (Erik !saAqdaazn2)
Svet lad, I've arranged for you to be able to post in locked threads for when this thread has to be temporarily locked against the Autistic Tinychan Mess. So keep those guesses coming!

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc double-posted this 2 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,372,777

@1,372,754 (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)

> The fly was eaten and entered Valhalla

Funnily enough I was listening to Das Rheingold last weekend, the Pierre Boulez production from the Bayreuther Festspiele.

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 2 weeks ago, 9 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,372,856

@1,372,776 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
Thank you. I'll keep the guesses flow.

Today's guess, is the horse running along the beach like in the Black Beauty into ?

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 weeks ago, 1 hour later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,372,861

@1,372,777 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

Is this a hint? The answer is related to Wagner?

How was it, anyway?

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU double-posted this 2 weeks ago, 22 hours later, 3 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,015

The horse was part of a stage show and the curtain dropped between the fly entering and exiting the mouth

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 weeks ago, 2 days later, 3 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,544

@1,372,861 (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)

> How was it, anyway?

Obviously not quite the standard of Sir Georg Solti's peerless 1958-1965 recording, if that's what you're asking, but still perfectly fine.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc double-posted this 2 weeks ago, 48 seconds later, 3 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,545

@1,372,856 (Erik !saAqdaazn2)

> Today's guess, is the horse running along the beach like in the Black Beauty into ?

No, and now I have that fucking theme song stuck in my head.

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 2 weeks ago, 17 minutes later, 3 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,548

@1,373,544 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

A live performance worse than a recording? That's a shame.

Was the fly still alive?

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 1 week ago, 6 days later, 3 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,375,190

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)

> A live performance worse than a recording? That's a shame.

It's not connected with being live or studio, it's all about the conductor and the singers. Solti was peerless in Wagner.

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 1 week ago, 3 hours later, 3 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,375,201

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

For me, I value live performances. They have a texture that I cannot replicate with a headset.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 1 week ago, 1 minute later, 3 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,375,202

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
I've a feeling we're talking about different things here.

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 1 week ago, 50 seconds later, 3 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,375,203

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

Singing?

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU double-posted this 1 week ago, 2 minutes later, 3 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,375,204

But you could make the same argument with anything really. For example I saw Les Miserables All Star concert live and when I watch it again on the video it's still very good, but it was better watching it in real life.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 1 week ago, 2 minutes later, 3 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,375,205

@1,375,203 (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
Both the Solti and the Boulez Rings that I was talking about are recordings. One was live, the other wasn't. You seem to be talking about concert-going.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc double-posted this 1 week ago, 1 minute later, 3 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,375,206

@1,375,204 (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)

> For example I saw Les Miserables All Star concert live

The one with Ruthie Henshall as Fantine?

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 1 week ago, 11 minutes later, 3 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,375,207

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

No, that was the 10th anniversary Dream Cast in 1995 (which is extremely good and I wish I could have seen it), I mean the 2019 one.

@1,375,205 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

Yes, I misunderstood you.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 1 week ago, 16 minutes later, 3 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,375,209

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)

> No, that was the 10th anniversary Dream Cast in 1995 (which is extremely good and I wish I could have seen it)

My parents had it on video. Henshall was perfect, as was the guy who played Javert (Stars has never been sung better), though the Canadian guy playing Valjean had a slightly annoying accent to his singing.

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc double-posted this 1 day ago, 1 week later, 3 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,376,326

Been on a bit of a Black Sabbath kick this last week since Ozzy's final concert and I've concluded that Heaven and Hell is unquestionably the band's greatest song. The riff is so simple but brilliant. Geezer's groove is sublime. Dio's vocal performance is just epic. Bill Ward is solid throughout but shifts into another gear in the fast section. And that acoustic coda is just *chef's kiss*.

In 2nd place I'd probably put Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, a song that proves Ozzy really did have range.

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 1 day ago, 6 hours later, 3 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,376,335

Was the horse galloping away?

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 1 day ago, 12 minutes later, 3 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,376,336

@previous (Erik !saAqdaazn2)

> Was the horse galloping away?

See my very first reply to you in this thread.

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 1 day ago, 11 minutes later, 3 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,376,337

Is the horse equine in nature, or metaphysical?

Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 1 day ago, 4 minutes later, 3 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,376,339

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
Equus caballus. There's no Plato shenanigans going on here.

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 23 hours ago, 5 hours later, 3 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,376,386

@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)

The point of view is from the horse. It was looking in a big mirror like they use at horse riding schools, but when the fly flew in it moved it's head and couldn't see the mirror no more.
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