> I'm hoping that she is thinking of future careers
And what about the last 800 times you've encouraged him to do this tells you that the 801st time will be successful?
Do with your free time whatever you want, it's your life, but I will never understand why you get emotionally invested in a manipulative attention-seeker like this guy.
That's twice you've written that. The first time I asked you for a citation you conveniently disappeared from the discussion (presumably because you know I never said that). So let's try a second time: provide a citation of where I 'said it myself' on Tinychan. I'll make you a deal: if you can produce such a citation, I will leave this forum forever.
A great example of why when a Catholic Speaks - They have no fear of lying because they simply can confess the Sin and move on
The Pope is either a Pedophile or Head Pedophile Enabler
The Pope continues to do everything he can to let Pedophile Priests Rape Children a Fact that is NOT in dispute - Yep he did give a blow job months ago when he said he wood take action - Alas in mean time 1000's of kids are being abused by the Church as the Pope just sits back and - No clue what the Pope does instead of doing a so Called Gods work but for sure the Pope is just a Criminal who cannot be arrested just like Trump
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U replied with this 6 years ago, 16 minutes later, 4 weeks after the original post[^][v]#1,068,910
@previous (Syntax)
Kindly stop derailing Catherine's thread. This is not an appropriate venue for tedious walls of semi-coherent nonsense. This is a place to discuss Catherine's writing.
> Kindly stop derailing Catherine's thread. This is not an appropriate venue for tedious walls of semi-coherent nonsense. This is a place to discuss Catherine's writing.
I will suggest Cathy do a screen play about how the Catholicker Church, is the only church that embraces Pedophiles
Syntax replied with this 6 years ago, 3 hours later, 4 weeks after the original post[^][v]#1,069,085
@previous (Catherine !ttGirlsPl2)
Which is why I gave it a fast glance - Just anything with Eco in it - I just cannot care
In any case YES YES give screenwriting a try - Have a friend from years ago who taught screenwriting at UCLA and she did well with a book on the subject.
Have dated several screenwriters and one got a nice gig on a TV series. Married a Gal who's dad was a Screenwriter - That is something I have a Negative talent with
Reminds me to look up how Vickie is doing - Might be Vicky - been lots of years
Anonymous C replied with this 6 years ago, 15 minutes later, 4 weeks after the original post[^][v]#1,069,170
@1,069,164 (Catherine !ttGirlsPl2)
Please don't swear and act aggressively, Catherine. It does not suit you. You should go back to the being the innocent child you once were.
Anonymous C replied with this 6 years ago, 11 minutes later, 4 weeks after the original post[^][v]#1,069,176
@1,069,173 (Catherine !ttGirlsPl2)
Swearing and being rude does not make you an adult! The adult thing to do would be to simply ignore Dave's Catholic priest schtick!
Syntax joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 3 hours later, 4 weeks after the original post[^][v]#1,069,248
@1,069,176 (C) @previous (Catherine !ttGirlsPl2)
Sometimes one must put foot down and stomp it
When Pedophile Catholic Merrin makes a point you can be sure it's just after he has molested another child and is taking a break so he uses MC.
Cathy thanks a lot for showing Merrin > Shut the fuck up, you pedophile.
Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 3 days later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,070,383
I finally finish my script for a play I wrote. It now has a beginning and an end. Now I could finally show a few classmates who want to know the fate of my characters. Not only did we as a class managed to finish a composition in a week but I feel more accomplished knowing this script that I've been working on outside of class is finally finish and just needs to have some revisions to check for confusing information like spelling errors, left out words, and clear stage directions. I have never felt more accomplished in my life. The future is looking mighty bright.
> > The Eco/Bert script wasn’t a serious work. I wrote that in the spare of the moment. > > "Spur of the moment" my boy, not "spare". If you're hoping to pursue a writing career it would be useful to master common idiomatic expressions.
Archie Bunker used the malapropism "sperm of the moment"
Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,070,437
@previous (Peter)
For the one I finished, I was using Celtx. For the one I just wrote I was using a Word template that my instructor provided us since I was mostly just messing around, but I think I already have an interesting story forming.
> I finally finish my script for a play I wrote. It now has a beginning and an end. Now I could finally show a few classmates who want to know the fate of my characters. Not only did we as a class managed to finish a composition in a week but I feel more accomplished knowing this script that I've been working on outside of class is finally finish and just needs to have some revisions to check for confusing information like spelling errors, left out words, and clear stage directions. I have never felt more accomplished in my life. The future is looking mighty bright.
Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,070,577
@previous (jodi !ariasXXmaE)
Why you assume I don't?
There's a difference
'tween a play and post
I proofread more than most
'cause the tendencies you make clear
So I don't know why you sneer
Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 14 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,070,812
I think I could share a sample of my play I'm working on.
This line of speech comes from one of the bully characters.
Oh, look what we have here. It’s a pathetic little faggot. Why don’t you learn to breed as if you’re rabbit? You hide behind frilly dresses and your pretty blouses. Try scoring a homerun with many young and gorgeous lasses. Instead of sipping tea at your local coffeehouses. You should just be a man like you’re always gonna be. There’s no changing your biology. All I’m stating are basic facts. But you will probably scream some silly crap. You should just commit seppuku and restore the honor that your parents lacked.
> I think I could share a sample of my play I'm working on. > > This line of speech comes from one of the bully characters. >
Oh, look what we have here. It’s a pathetic little faggot. Why don’t you learn to breed as if you’re rabbit? You hide behind frilly dresses and your pretty blouses. Try scoring a homerun with many young and gorgeous lasses. Instead of sipping tea at your local coffeehouses. You should just be a man like you’re always gonna be. There’s no changing your biology. All I’m stating are basic facts. But you will probably scream some silly crap. You should just commit seppuku and restore the honor that your parents lacked.
Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 32 seconds later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,070,822
@1,070,820 (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
What do you think could be changed? I should have noted that line is a part of a dream sequence so unnatural is kind of what I was going for.
> I think I could share a sample of my play I'm working on. > > This line of speech comes from one of the bully characters. >
Oh, look what we have here. It’s a pathetic little faggot. Why don’t you learn to breed as if you’re rabbit? You hide behind frilly dresses and your pretty blouses. Try scoring a homerun with many young and gorgeous lasses. Instead of sipping tea at your local coffeehouses. You should just be a man like you’re always gonna be. There’s no changing your biology. All I’m stating are basic facts. But you will probably scream some silly crap. You should just commit seppuku and restore the honor that your parents lacked.
The Bible enjoins us to be honest with one another and it's in that spirit that I say the following: that is some of the most poorly-written text I've ever seen an adult write. It's shockingly bad. That is locution that has mercifully never dribbled from the mouth of any person not formed in the mind of someone with no experience of how normal adult human beings communicate.
Again please forgive the tough love, but that is stunningly bad writing. Nevertheless, God bless you my boy.
Writers are people who marry a vast experience of life and a profound understanding of human behaviour with a gift for communicating these things through the rich use of language. With the deepest respect, you have such a non-existent understanding of the world and human relationships (beyond being mocked and ridiculed) that you're unlikely to write anything that other people are going to want to read. Writing out your fantasies of what you wish you could say to people who bully you (which is what this is obviously set up to be) is not what being a writer is about. This reads like an angry and semi-literate child's diary entry just before he self-harms.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,070,829
@1,070,826 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Shakespeare didn't always rhyme either. @1,070,827 (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
Ok, that's a lot of focus on the negatives. What are some positives you saw in the writing?
Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,070,831
@1,070,824 (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
I did note a couple of posts above yours that line is supposed to be a part of a dream sequence occurring in the character's mind. So it should be a little out of the ordinary. That whole scene was weird since there's an alien, a rival knight, and a tulpa involved too.
@1,070,823 (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
I do have some lines in there that happens "in real-time" and not within the realm of fantasy or dreams though now I'm thinking even for those segments I might have exaggerated it.
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 6 years ago, 50 seconds later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,070,834
@1,070,831 (Catherine !ttGirlsPl2)
Whether in real life or a dream that doesn't read as human speech. Nobody would ever speak like that. It seems like you've never had a real conversation with someone. It's so...stilted and inconsistent.
> Ok, that's a lot of focus on the negatives. What are some positives you saw in the writing?
It only took 20 seconds of abject suffering to plough through it. But then again, even that seems to have been enough to leave me feeling like my brain was just violated.
Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,070,838
@1,070,827 (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
I finished work on another draft for another story that I have a few people in my class wanting to read. The short play I wrote they actually want to produce.
@1,070,828 (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
Maybe within the context of this scene. Keep in mind that it is supposed to be in a dream. The character outside of that talks more modern. I even had the character go meta and address the rhyming.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 46 seconds later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,070,839
@1,070,832 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Catherine subverted your expectations by thinking that it was meant to rhyme, but actually it was never intended to rhyme at all, thus ensuring that it was good writing all along.
@1,070,833 (Q)
Well, that's something at least! If your writing isn't good enough, you can always turn it into smut.
Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,070,851
@1,070,847 (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
There was one woman in my class who had a script that was very hard to read and follow. One of the guys just kind of went off on her without giving her any actual criticisms that leave room to improve. The instructor was going to step in but didn't really need to since the other students in the class sort of put him in his place. He was kind of being a massive dick though since he was just resulting to insults.
Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,070,864
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I have a few people telling me to fuck (like my brother). I was mostly told to just write and then you could always go back to revise. Fortunately, I know a few people who can give me their advice.
> There was one woman in my class who had a script that was very hard to read and follow. One of the guys just kind of went off on her without giving her any actual criticisms that leave room to improve. The instructor was going to step in but didn't really need to since the other students in the class sort of put him in his place. He was kind of being a massive dick though since he was just resulting to insults.
Let me put it this way. Writers are first and foremost readers. They have a voracious appetite for language. Your incredibly limited vocabulary (plus your very self-absorbed personality that shows little interest in the outside world or its people) suggests you don't read a lot. So start there. Read vast amounts of literature, from pop culture trash to high art; from Dan Brown to Dostoevsky. Develop your vocabulary and your facility with laying down flowing sentences.
Secondly: shy, insular and socially-awkward people (which is what you are) can often be talented writers; their fear of people and social interaction often leads them to have highly developed observational skills, much like the children of abusive parents. They develop an ability to 'read' people and gauge their moods and actions, as a protection mechanism, and this makes them great natural psychologists (think Travis Bickle in Scorsese's Taxi Driver, a movie that is fundamentally about observation). Stephen King was like this for example when he was our age (I've gathered you and I are roughly the same age), which is why his early novels feature cripplingly shy young people who lash out at the world in some way. But, his enormous novels are also peopled with all manner of other types of characters, because King was and is a highly gifted and sensitive 'reader' of human behavior. This is what you need to be. I don't doubt you are able to write a character who is a confused and withdrawn emotional infant. The task for you is, can you convincingly write any other type of character?
So what I'm saying here is that if you want to be a writer, you have to take a profound interest in humanity. That's the difference between being a writer for other people, and someone who is just getting things off your chest (as that play seems to be). Writers record life itself; with respect, what life have you had that merits recording?
You wanted advice, there it is. 1) Read vast amounts of literature, and 2) engage with the world in a way that will help you write real human characters and situations.
Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 49 seconds later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,070,873
Maybe I should have shared something that I wrote that was in a final publication.
The project in my class was to each write a story that was going to be added to a composition called a vignette play.
The group decided on a story about a cupid who works at Cupid Inc. who has to learn about love. I was tasked with writing the epilogue since they love what I initially wrote. The name was decided by someone else. And now I'm noticing some fuck ups. I have made the corrections. Honestly, I don't feel too bad about the mistakes since it seems like the story that starts off the play remains an even bigger mess.
CUPID 143
...so in conclusion love is something that doesn’t have to be
romantic, but can be something more than that. From a grieving
widow taking in a complete stranger to finding someone to simply
be together in this rat race called life. However, if not carefully
attended to, love is something that can go sour. It can lead to
poison and become an addiction, but if such issues can be avoided
or resolved then it maybe discovered that love is rewarding.
So... I guess what I learned is... love is complicated.
Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 (OP) double-posted this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,070,874
@1,070,871 (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
That's a really good critique. I'll keep these things in mind.
Another thing that I always try to note is that when writing plays I can't be in that movie mind that most people tend to have.
I always fall into that trap.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,070,908
@1,070,827 (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
Not only this but people "bully" Catherine, they dont even use these phrases or critiques. So she rewrote the bullying in order to be able to have easy retorts, because the actual criticism of her is far harder to rebutt
> Not only this but people "bully" Catherine, they dont even use these phrases or critiques. So she rewrote the bullying in order to be able to have easy retorts, because the actual criticism of her is far harder to rebutt
Agreed, and quite honestly it would be a far more useful writing task for him to retort to my own criticisms of him on here. It sounds like this 'writing class' is nothing more than a bunch of marginalised social lepers back-slapping each other by way of group therapy, rather than actually honest analysis of a piece of writing (there is simply no way on earth an intelligent adult read that thing that Catherine wrote and considered it anything other than dreadful writing; even the detail that it's a dream sequence only points to how he's searching for ways to divorce his writing even further from reality, as does this 'tulpa' nonsense).
I obviously joke with him on here, because quite honestly I know his character type and I get how he works on people. I know his shtick, to put it bluntly. But I actually do wish him well with this writing course, assuming it's real (it almost certainly isn't, the stories he tells about the other people in it ring as true to human nature as that fiction he posted). I just think that he ought to do some painfully frank self-analysis before he embarks on dreams of a writing career, because how can he depict other people before he even has the slightest understanding of himself?
> I'm actually in the progress (sic) of writing that now.
Your 'antagonist' (quite honestly he seems more of a protagonist to me) has stated the case against your put-upon sissy in such bone-headed and knuckle-scraping straw man terms that a heroic 'retort' would be effortless to write. In the interest of helping you develop as a writer, would you like me to re-write that character's evisceration of your personality type and then you can respond to that instead? It would be a far better writing challenge for you, and to be honest, nobody in your writing therapy class would ever be as bluntly frank with you as I would be.
To conclude, love does not have to be
romantic, but is something more
For a widow finds a stranger
to a friend to a family
to be together in life's race
I say to you, love
is not romantic
but is subtle, deep
and extends beyond,
From a widow finding
a strange man to
a partner to live
in life's glorious race
But seek ye take care
for if aught go wrong
then the love you feel
can quickly sour; A pox
'pon the mind that
gives you no power.
But if this trap isturned aside post-haste
then a trove of knowledge can be found there
And the thing to learn from these two cross-fated
Is that such love can be too complicated
In layman's terms? Histrionic, attention-seeking, infantile and manipulative. But that doesn't lend itself to a writing task, so if you agree I can re-write that character's 'dream sequence' in the more fully-realised way that a perceptive adult would say it, and you can then pen a retort to it.
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U double-posted this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,070,954
@1,070,950 (Catherine !ttGirlsPl2)
Tell me the emotions that go through you when you contemplate this idea: Kook will never again respond to anything you write. No matter what story you tell, she will completely ignore you until the end of time.
Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 53 seconds later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,070,955
@1,070,953 (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
The character isn't supposed to be me. And how am I manipulative? I'll give you attention-seeking and infantile though. What does histrionic mean?
@1,070,952 (B)
This is a very lovely poem. It seems a little long for a play through. I'm definitely saving this.
This is what I was talking about earlier. As someone who wants to be a writer your instinct here ought to have been to immediately look up the word for yourself. Try to get into the habit of broadening your vocabulary under your own initiative.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 34 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,076,060
@1,076,042 (tteh !GETFUCKED)
Lol it is kind of a lopsided matchup because Father Merrin is one of the most erudite, sophisticated forum members and Catherine is...a work in progress like the rest of us.
tteh !GETFUCKED replied with this 6 years ago, 16 seconds later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,076,064
@1,076,060 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Don't get me wrong, he could absolutely eviscerate me if I posted some attempt at 'writing' too, but this thread was... something else. Like... just...
tteh !GETFUCKED replied with this 6 years ago, 13 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,076,114
@previous (Dreamworks)
Have you read the posts of the user to whom Fake anon refers? They're intelligent and well articulated, even if you don't like the author.
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,076,144
@1,076,105 (Dreamworks)
Father Merrin isn't TG. It's an understandable mistake, though. At one point in time, their text voices and mannerisms were indeed quite similar when they trolled.
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 6 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,076,438
@1,076,385 (Dreamworks)
FuckAlms said as much, and what I can see as a mod myself corroborates it.
Father Merrin has also, in all of his time here, never expressed any paedophilic inclinations either. As I recall, TG seemed compelled to do this because it was his fetish. I can't see him successfully switching that off for years on a forum that hated him anyway.
I feel like I'm intruding a little by saying this but, well, assuring people that you aren't an angry paedophile seems like a fairly nice thing to do.
Dreamworks replied with this 6 years ago, 17 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,076,440
@previous (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
Then why does he respond to the name tg and use :))s so much like tg and what can you see as a mod that would corroborate it besides an ip
He responds to it because people started calling him TG when he first started using that handle. At which time, Fuckalms first started trying to tell everyone it wasn't TG, but the majority paid no mind.
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,076,449
@1,076,444 (Dreamworks)
There was a poster before that called TG, who drew paedo comics. I think he only posted on TC, though. I don't remember much, but I believe there was evidence of him doing such outside of Tinychan.
...Although, if you really want to split hairs, I suppose I can't prove that that Dave wasn't pretending to be TG at some point to troll people. But FuckAlms was in a position to compare their IPs and mannerisms and said they were distinct entities.
@1,076,440 (Dreamworks)
I can't go into specifics, but what I've seen of his posting doesn't quite match up with what I recall about TG, in terms of mannerisms and things he's said. Again, not concrete proof, but good enough for me to make a confident assumption.