Topic: Is it fair to judge people as stupid when they have terrible spelling?
beckyderp !4aMoRa.T2Q started this discussion 9.6 years ago #39,459
I wince and cringe and lose respect quickly for people who can't spell. Is that fair? I think there's usually a pretty good correlation between spelling and intelligence.
| Poll option | Votes | Percentage | Graph |
|---|---|---|---|
| Yes. I do it too. | 9 | 90% | |
| No. I have bad spelling. | 1 | 10% |
Indy !!3hypt7fkt joined in and replied with this 9.6 years ago, 42 seconds later[^] [v] #525,087
Typographical errors are one thing, but yes, if it is obviously a spelling error, it indicates that the writer is an uneducated mora.
beckyderp !4aMoRa.T2Q (OP) replied with this 9.6 years ago, 7 minutes later, 8 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #525,089
@previous (Indy !!3hypt7fkt)
Yeah, I feel the same way. People who don't spell well tend not to read much, in my experience. Otherwise, they'd have a good sense of the correct way to spell things.
However, Fake anon cannot type worth shit, and 90% of what he contributes to the IRC is Syntax-level illegible gibberish. But he can spell when he needs to.
Yeah, I feel the same way. People who don't spell well tend not to read much, in my experience. Otherwise, they'd have a good sense of the correct way to spell things.
However, Fake anon cannot type worth shit, and 90% of what he contributes to the IRC is Syntax-level illegible gibberish. But he can spell when he needs to.
Indy !!3hypt7fkt replied with this 9.6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 12 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #525,090
@previous (beckyderp !4aMoRa.T2Q)
Yes, but Syntax is the worst of spellers. Not only is he stupid and uneducated, but he actually defends it by comparing himself to Shakespeare!
Yes, but Syntax is the worst of spellers. Not only is he stupid and uneducated, but he actually defends it by comparing himself to Shakespeare!
beckyderp !4aMoRa.T2Q (OP) replied with this 9.6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 15 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #525,091
Indy !!3hypt7fkt replied with this 9.6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 19 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #525,096
TTEH !FFSTTEHV7. joined in and replied with this 9.6 years ago, 27 minutes later, 46 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #525,107
Yes, I think it's fair. Personally, it depends on whether I think their spelling is genuinely poor, or whether they just don't put the effort in to correct themselves. I often make mistakes in IRC and online, and can't be arsed to correct them. If someone judged me for that I'd just think they're a miserable git.
Although I do, in fact, prefer to avoid judging people.
Although I do, in fact, prefer to avoid judging people.
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squeegee joined in and replied with this 9.6 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,126
yup, totally fair. you can determine a person's reading and comprehension level by their spelling. can't spell beyond 6th grade definitions? you probably have the reading comprehension of a 12 year old, which also means you write like a 12 year old and probably argue and work like one too...
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Metæ joined in and replied with this 9.6 years ago, 7 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,129
I have mixed feelings about this. Given how arbitrary English spelling is, with its panoply of loanwords from all different languages I can't really fault someone for not keeping up with it, provided they are intelligent in some other way. That being said, with autocorrect and automatic spell checking, there's less of an excuse now than say 10 or 20 years ago.
@525,096 (Indy !!3hypt7fkt)
He hired a paid editor for his articles and books.
@525,096 (Indy !!3hypt7fkt)
He hired a paid editor for his articles and books.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 9.6 years ago, 28 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,132
Every so often someone points out I am spelling a word incorrectly, I cut it out because people do judge subconsiously on how you speak and write.
Recently this has happened with:
surprise / suprise
seperate / separate
libel / slander
On a similar note, speaking with a hint of a Birmingham accent causes people to think they are talking to a mora.
Recently this has happened with:
surprise / suprise
seperate / separate
libel / slander
On a similar note, speaking with a hint of a Birmingham accent causes people to think they are talking to a mora.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 9.6 years ago, 17 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,136
I think it can definitely be a sign of stupidity, but not all on its own. Generally, if what the person is saying is itself dumb, then sure, I'll look on it as a sign that they aren't too bright.
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FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI joined in and replied with this 9.6 years ago, 28 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,139
@525,132 (F)
Separate always gives me trouble. It's one of the very few though. More often I'm plagued by reversal of meaning omission; I'll neglect to type a small word like 'not' and it'll completely change what I had intended to say.
Separate always gives me trouble. It's one of the very few though. More often I'm plagued by reversal of meaning omission; I'll neglect to type a small word like 'not' and it'll completely change what I had intended to say.
r04r joined in and replied with this 9.6 years ago, 11 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,141
@525,089 (beckyderp !4aMoRa.T2Q)
To be fair, he is only that retarded on his phone.
@OP
Yes. People who consistently spell bad either don't give a fuck and don't care about being taken seriously, they're too stupid to realize it matters, or they cannot do better. Either way, they cannot be considered well educated.
The only excuse is being a non-native speaker, but still.
To be fair, he is only that retarded on his phone.
@OP
Yes. People who consistently spell bad either don't give a fuck and don't care about being taken seriously, they're too stupid to realize it matters, or they cannot do better. Either way, they cannot be considered well educated.
The only excuse is being a non-native speaker, but still.
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squeegee replied with this 9.6 years ago, 17 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,143
@previous (r04r)
i do agree that being a non-native speaker is the only excuse, i know in spanish i sound like a dinwit.
i do agree that being a non-native speaker is the only excuse, i know in spanish i sound like a dinwit.
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 9.6 years ago, 3 hours later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,185
Wayting for syntax's xpert avice on sead subjeck. Yu no he wil. He is a moran and thunks he be beter den evrybody els.
O, an by da way, b prepeared fir a tin myle skript from da dumass
O, an by da way, b prepeared fir a tin myle skript from da dumass
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Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 9.6 years ago, 57 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,190
FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 9.6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,191
@525,185 (J)Well, I am now convinced that all of syntax's detractors are illiterate dropouts who don't like him to post because he spells just like them, yet reminds them that they are useless unemployed urchins.
swamplights !!0lQNsDoq/ joined in and replied with this 9.6 years ago, 1 hour later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,205
Auntie Em joined in and replied with this 9.6 years ago, 2 hours later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,228
squeegee replied with this 9.6 years ago, 40 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,233
Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 9.6 years ago, 11 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,235
It depends. Usually you can tell when a person just doesn't cares as opposed to being a dumb retard.
I'm not a native english speaker but even I can't help but judge people who have it as their mother tongue and yet know less about it then some 3rd rate foreigner like me.
I'm not a native english speaker but even I can't help but judge people who have it as their mother tongue and yet know less about it then some 3rd rate foreigner like me.
beckyderp !4aMoRa.T2Q (OP) replied with this 9.6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,237
Anonymous N replied with this 9.6 years ago, 35 seconds later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,238
Anonymous K replied with this 9.6 years ago, 1 hour later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,314
squeegee replied with this 9.6 years ago, 50 seconds later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,317
Anonymous O joined in and replied with this 9.6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,320
What about how the person "netscape" writes?
netscape joined in and replied with this 9.6 years ago, 5 seconds later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,321
i do not care about punctuation but if you
are pulling some syntax level spelling BS
then you cant expect anyone at all
to take you seriously.
spelling is not difficult, and most
browsers have built in spell check
if you cannot take advantage of
that then you are
ｍｅｎｔａｌｌｙ ｃｈａｌｌｅｎｇｅｄ
are pulling some syntax level spelling BS
then you cant expect anyone at all
to take you seriously.
spelling is not difficult, and most
browsers have built in spell check
if you cannot take advantage of
that then you are
ｍｅｎｔａｌｌｙ ｃｈａｌｌｅｎｇｅｄ
J A replied with this 9.6 years ago, 58 seconds later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,324
What the uck is the big deal??
STOP WISHING YOU HAD X-RAY GOGGLES AND JUST FUCKING ASK A QUESTION, NERDS!!!
I mean... Hello.
STOP WISHING YOU HAD X-RAY GOGGLES AND JUST FUCKING ASK A QUESTION, NERDS!!!
I mean... Hello.
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netscape replied with this 9.6 years ago, 1 minute later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,325
@525,320 (O)
> What about how the person "netscape" writes?
i spell just fine, i type this way as a choice
it is actually quite difficult.
i just choose to not use proper formatting; though as i said before, i have no problems spelling or typing in the slightest, i just choose to do it.
e: heres a better way of putting it, i find that if i purposely type like that, it keeps my brain sharper, because i am so used to typing normally. Putting yourself in an uncomfortable situation "mentally" so to speak, but not like anything nuts, i meditate as well but i dont do it as much as other people or as long i would think, some people i know can do it for hours and it is actually quite difficult because it is so easy to just black out and fall asleep, thats also why you sit up while doing it or use uncomfortable poses if you're so inclined.
> What about how the person "netscape" writes?
i spell just fine, i type this way as a choice
it is actually quite difficult.
i just choose to not use proper formatting; though as i said before, i have no problems spelling or typing in the slightest, i just choose to do it.
e: heres a better way of putting it, i find that if i purposely type like that, it keeps my brain sharper, because i am so used to typing normally. Putting yourself in an uncomfortable situation "mentally" so to speak, but not like anything nuts, i meditate as well but i dont do it as much as other people or as long i would think, some people i know can do it for hours and it is actually quite difficult because it is so easy to just black out and fall asleep, thats also why you sit up while doing it or use uncomfortable poses if you're so inclined.
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J A replied with this 9.6 years ago, 33 seconds later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,326
squeegee replied with this 9.6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,332
@525,325 (netscape)
one thing i like to do is use a line break to denote a pause in speech
it's like better than a period becuase it forces the reader to pause their reading
line breaks in the middle of a clause
can feel quite disruptive
interesting how your sentences are stacked from longest to shortest.
also, if i want to emphasise some text
like this
then i'll often use line breaks to split up the sentence and hammer the emphasis in
one thing i like to do is use a line break to denote a pause in speech
it's like better than a period becuase it forces the reader to pause their reading
line breaks in the middle of a clause
can feel quite disruptive
interesting how your sentences are stacked from longest to shortest.
also, if i want to emphasise some text
like this
then i'll often use line breaks to split up the sentence and hammer the emphasis in
(Edited 1 minute later.)
netscape replied with this 9.6 years ago, 8 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,342
@previous (squeegee)
> one thing i like to do is use a line break to denote a pause in speech
> it's like better than a period becuase it forces the reader to pause their reading
>
> line breaks in the middle of a clause
> can feel quite disruptive
>
> interesting how your sentences are stacked from longest to shortest.
>
> also, if i want to emphasise some text
> like this
> then i'll often use line breaks to split up the sentence and hammer the emphasis in
you should just use different unicode
> one thing i like to do is use a line break to denote a pause in speech
> it's like better than a period becuase it forces the reader to pause their reading
>
> line breaks in the middle of a clause
> can feel quite disruptive
>
> interesting how your sentences are stacked from longest to shortest.
>
> also, if i want to emphasise some text
> like this
> then i'll often use line breaks to split up the sentence and hammer the emphasis in
you should just use different unicode
Anonymous O replied with this 9.6 years ago, 1 minute later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,345
netscape replied with this 9.6 years ago, 6 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,354
squeegee replied with this 9.6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,356
@525,342 (netscape)
nah, i use my phone too much
@525,345 (O)
pretty much anything i tap out here is purposely done to add to a particular "text voice" that identifies me. that way i can go anon or clone someone and type squeegeeistically for humor's sake.
also i use a lot of "verbal tics."
also i can go anon and lose the voice and remain anon.
also this now carries over sometimes to other forums i use and now sometimes i'm "that weird text voice guy" that i used to find so terribly off putting way back when. reddit especially likes to correct my use of a lowercase "i".
nah, i use my phone too much
@525,345 (O)
pretty much anything i tap out here is purposely done to add to a particular "text voice" that identifies me. that way i can go anon or clone someone and type squeegeeistically for humor's sake.
also i use a lot of "verbal tics."
also i can go anon and lose the voice and remain anon.
also this now carries over sometimes to other forums i use and now sometimes i'm "that weird text voice guy" that i used to find so terribly off putting way back when. reddit especially likes to correct my use of a lowercase "i".
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netscape replied with this 9.6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,361
@previous (squeegee)
> nah, i use my phone too much
>
>
> pretty much anything i tap out here is purposely done to add to a particular "text voice" that identifies me. that way i can go anon or clone someone and type squeegeeistically for humor's sake.
> also i use a lot of "verbal tics."
> also i can go anon and lose the voice and remain anon.
>
> also this now carries over sometimes to other forums i use and now sometimes i'm "that weird text voice guy" that i used to find so terribly off putting way back when. reddit especially likes to correct my use of a lowercase "i".
that is another reason i do it as well
i dont need a tripcode really...
im sure many people could rip off my "posting voice"
but there are lots of tiny details a lot of people
would miss out on, which is in itself is cool
> nah, i use my phone too much
>
>
> pretty much anything i tap out here is purposely done to add to a particular "text voice" that identifies me. that way i can go anon or clone someone and type squeegeeistically for humor's sake.
> also i use a lot of "verbal tics."
> also i can go anon and lose the voice and remain anon.
>
> also this now carries over sometimes to other forums i use and now sometimes i'm "that weird text voice guy" that i used to find so terribly off putting way back when. reddit especially likes to correct my use of a lowercase "i".
that is another reason i do it as well
i dont need a tripcode really...
im sure many people could rip off my "posting voice"
but there are lots of tiny details a lot of people
would miss out on, which is in itself is cool
FuckAlms !vX8K53rFBI replied with this 9.6 years ago, 48 seconds later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,362
squeegee replied with this 9.6 years ago, 24 seconds later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,363
oh yeah, my use of a lowercase exclusively actually came from dw
i think i may have gotten the linebreak thing from him too? he doesn't use punctuation
like ever
i think i may have gotten the linebreak thing from him too? he doesn't use punctuation
like ever
netscape replied with this 9.6 years ago, 1 minute later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #525,364
i also hope my "posting voice"
is as lackluster as possible
is as lackluster as possible