Topic: It is very difficult not to socially engineer women you date.
Anonymous A started this discussion 3 weeks ago#134,928
Especially if she’s under 40 and shares everything online. It is so simple to collect all of this, run a personality evaluation, language analysis for education level, cross reference to family history and obits.
From there you posit to an LLM: Turn these data points into a main character in an outline for an erotic story with her hot buttons, triggers, and turn offs.
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 2 weeks ago, 1 hour later[^][v]#1,435,082
You're overcomplicating it. Women like to talk, so let her do the talking. Whenever she stops to let you talk, or mentions a contention with someone else, validate her point of view.
Women operate entirely off of validation. They don't care about the truth, and they will favor men who tell them harmful validating lies over a man who puts his own ease aside to tell her a hard truth that would help her.
If you ever mess up and validate the wrong side, quickly say "no, what I meant was-" and validate her side correctly. It won't matter if she realizes you are telling her what she wants to hear, all that matters is the feeling she gets when you align yourself with her.
Anonymous B replied with this 2 weeks ago, 55 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,435,118
@previous (Mr. Black Boi)
In person, talking about their personal life and drama? That's usually women in my experience. I've seen many guys just nodding as the woman rants.
Chans and forums are more male-centric but shitposting or discussing current events isn't really the same thing as venting and validation seeking.
> You're overcomplicating it. Women like to talk, so let her do the talking. Whenever she stops to let you talk, or mentions a contention with someone else, validate her point of view. > > Women operate entirely off of validation. They don't care about the truth, and they will favor men who tell them harmful validating lies over a man who puts his own ease aside to tell her a hard truth that would help her. > > If you ever mess up and validate the wrong side, quickly say "no, what I meant was-" and validate her side correctly. It won't matter if she realizes you are telling her what she wants to hear, all that matters is the feeling she gets when you align yourself with her.
That’s easy enough and I do it. I’m also trying to find risks. I’ve had a bad run of women I get along with who have severe financial, emotional, or health problems. I don’t want to be a caregiver from the start or end up saddled with massive debt.
I may just give up on deeper partnership and focus on getting laid.
If a man is talking about something in the news and a woman just says nods and says "yes of course" it can sound forced or patronizing.
Women talk about themselves and their personal lives, and rarely want anything besides validation. Try and relate or give a solution and they aren't likely to appreciate it.
Do you think men and women are basically the same psychologically?
> Yes, I'm sure. > > If a man is talking about something in the news and a woman just says nods and says "yes of course" it can sound forced or patronizing. > > Women talk about themselves and their personal lives, and rarely want anything besides validation. Try and relate or give a solution and they aren't likely to appreciate it. > > Do you think men and women are basically the same psychologically?
This is 100%. Not to sound harsh, but many are looking to offload anxiety and other emotional burdens on someone else. Maybe this is why lesbian relationships are so fraught, too much broadcast and too little receive.
> I feel heard and validated, thank you. We can have sex now.
The sexes are so different. I had a friend who a recently divorced woman picked up at a bar. They had a tumultuous couple of weeks. She dumped him and said she used him. How does it feel? He bragged to us about it. No strings, no attachment, just sex. Boo hoo!
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 2 weeks ago, 9 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,435,324
@1,435,207 (H) > Maybe this is why lesbian relationships are so fraught, too much broadcast and too little receive.
That's part of it, but there's more too.
Uncontrolled emotional outburts are a problem, women are less likely to calmly talk over a problem.
Then there's the accountability issue, if one gets caught doing something wrong, they will try to make themselves the victim because they were "hurt" when the actual victim spoke up about it.
Then there's the financial habits, women like to spend on unnecessary luxury items. They'll talk about how they "deserve" it because of whatever reason, and will act like any reatraint from a partner (who would probably have to be a man anyway) is the man just trying to be mean. It's like they can't fathom that a savings is better for their hapiness than a cheap dopamine hit, and can't plan for the future.
Throw all that in together and those relationships are doomed. There's a big insecurity in the lesbian scene about a woman who goes back to men because it happens so often. A lot of them just want a provider, and eventually they realize all their lesbo friends want them to be the provider too.
Anonymous I replied with this 2 weeks ago, 42 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,435,334
@1,435,331 (Mr. Black Boi)
When we say they do it for validation, it's because of the reaction that different responses get: presenting solutions or asking questions vs just agreeing.
Can you explain how the posts in this conversation led you to believe the goal is validation seeking? Give the criteria you used to determine it.
I have a feeling you won't do that, because you usually avoid answering simple questions like that and make excuses like "it wont matter what I say".
@previous (Mr. Black Boi)
Then tell us what about these posts is "validation seeking" specifically.
Mr. Black Boi double-posted this 2 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,435,339
Like there’s this whole bullshit about you pretending you’re objective and acting like everything needs to be a formal debate, but then when I sit back, and I look at what you’re arguing for, and arguing about, it’s always low IQ.
Mr. Black Boi triple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,435,340
And I don’t want to call you autistic because I don’t have anything against autistic people, but I do feel like there’s something going on. I don’t feel like you’re neurotypical. This is such a weird personality. It was annoying at first with all the racist bullshit, but the more I talk to you the more I feel like you’re not normal. Idk.
> Like oh "um actually, what criteria are you using to determine that I’m seeking validation 🤓" it’s getting old.
Why not just answer it?
Like I pointed out, you always avoid answering simple questions.
This is important because it shows who's speaking in good faith and who's not. If you are just throwing the same accusation back in a meaningless way (the "no u" argument) then of course you can't share the criteria because it doesn't exist.
Likewise you can't answer straightforward questions in any other discussion because you know your contradictions will be easier to spot.
Avoiding simple questions doesn't make you look smart, it reveals you can't defend your own position.
Mr. Black Boi double-posted this 2 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,435,346
That and you’re just arrogant despite the fact that everything you say sounds stupid. Literally every single thing you’ve ever said just sounds so fucking stupid I’m not sorry.
Mr. Black Boi triple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,435,347
All these stupid debates are so asinine, you just say something stupid, I tell you why it’s stupid, you ask me a stupid question arrogantly like you think you’re better than me then you repeat the cycle over and over and over again and you’re so fucking slow.
Mr. Black Boi replied with this 2 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,435,349
@previous (I)
Are you stupid? I already answered your question before you asked it, if you had two brain cells you would know why because I just told you moron.
There's an important distinction between calling someone stupid over and over again, and actually refuting what they said to demonstrate that they are wrong.
> That and you’re just arrogant despite the fact that everything you say sounds stupid. Literally every single thing you’ve ever said just sounds so fucking stupid I’m not sorry.
> All these stupid debates are so asinine, you just say something stupid, I tell you why it’s stupid, you ask me a stupid question arrogantly like you think you’re better than me then you repeat the cycle over and over and over again and you’re so fucking slow.
Can you not read? Why would you ask me something that stupid?
Anonymous I replied with this 2 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,435,353
@1,435,347 (Mr. Black Boi)
I ask you simple questions because they either demonstrate that you are unable to answer (like in this thread), or that you have a contradiction in your beliefs that can be easily shown.
Arrogance isn't when someone asks a question.
Arrogance is when you insist you are correct, but are unable to demonstrate it, like you are doing here.
Mr. Black Boi replied with this 2 weeks ago, 5 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,435,355
Most of the time when you accuse me of not having a response I gave you a detailed response and you accuse me of "spamming text" at you, but really you’re just too lazy to read my response so you think I didn’t respond. I just don’t like you.
> I asked the question to show that you cannot answer it.
Which is arrogant, and I already answered your stupid question and you’re pretending I didn’t answer it, because you’re an arrogant prick. I just don’t like you.
Mr. Black Boi triple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,435,357
And this shit is so asinine, you’ll spend forever asking me why I don’t answer the question of why I don’t answer questions. It’s just a loop that goes nowhere, it’s fucking idiotic. Do you do this in real life? I feel like if I acted the way you act on the internet in real life I’d get punched in the face. What environment are you in where you can exist the way that you as an adult? It doesn’t even make sense.
Mr. Black Boi quadruple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,435,358
Now that I think about it maybe somebody did punch you in the face and that’s why you’re like this. I’ve always imagined there’s a level of stupid where you get punched hard enough you start liking getting punched and then it because a vicious cycle of stupid reinforcing stupid.
Anonymous I replied with this 2 weeks ago, 7 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,435,359
@1,435,355 (Mr. Black Boi)
Then just quote the answer and prove I'm doing that.
In reality each time this happens you are just spamming consecutive insult posts and refusing to answer to cite any previous response.
It's not hard to prove you answered, if someone refused to awknowledge my answer I would just quote it and ask what they felt I didn't address. You won't do that, because you never actually answered when this happens.
Anonymous I replied with this 2 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,435,362
@1,435,356 (Mr. Black Boi)
Then just quote the answer.
You've already argued for a dozen posts, and you'll spam much more, but for some reason can't answer or cite your previous answer. It's just a stalling tactic.
If I just ignore it, you get away with acting in bad faith.
You could end the loop by just answering.
What would someone else think reading this? Use empathy. The obvious question would be "why not just answer? that's so much easier". It is obvious why you will stay in the loop rather than let the conversation progress.
Anonymous I double-posted this 2 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,435,363
@1,435,360 (Mr. Black Boi)
Answering simple question is how good faith conversations work.
Refusing to explain your accusations, and instead spamming dozens of off-topic insult posts is clearly a way of trying to get out of a question anyone can see you are unable to answer.
Mr. Black Boi replied with this 2 weeks ago, 22 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,435,364
The most irritating thing is you seem to lack the capacity to progress in terms of your thoughts. You never have a thought A, that leads to a thought B, that leads to a thought C. You’re just stuck on thought A in an a loop forever. That’s what all your opinions are. The conclusion is in the premise, black people are inferior because black people are inferior, it’s all dumb. You lack the capacity to change your strategy when you’re arguing, you lack the capacity to think about things in any way other than in black and white. It’s so frustrating. I feel like I’m not talking to a real person.
Mr. Black Boi double-posted this 2 weeks ago, 41 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,435,365
And then you have this ideology about IQ and intelligence, but I don’t see any intelligence in you, and I want to find it somewhere, but I just don’t see it, I just don’t.
Anonymous I replied with this 2 weeks ago, 56 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,435,366
@1,435,361 (Mr. Black Boi)
Everyone knows you don't like me. I'm not sure what you accomplish be reasserting what we already know.
If you really wanted to show my hypocricy you could just state what I did that signalled "validation seeking", but for some reason you are sparing me? lol.
Mr. Black Boi triple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,435,369
You’re just so shallow I feel like you don’t actually understand that I don’t like you. Like you can say the words but I don’t feel like you consciously understand what the words mean.
Mr. Black Boi double-posted this 2 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,435,372
There’s nothing you have to say or anything in your brain that would enlighten me, I just feel like no matter how much I tell you, you can’t grasp that you’re beliefs are logically flawed and morally reprehensible. I feel like you’re incapable of understanding and I can’t understand why. I don’t know what’s wrong with you, but I hate it.
Anonymous I replied with this 2 weeks ago, 3 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,435,395
@1,435,372 (Mr. Black Boi)
You say make assertions over and over, but are never able to have any sustained conversation about reason.
You have no epistemology, you're a reactive animal without the capacity for reason. No different than a parrot perfectly replicating human speech, but it can never grasp the idea of what belief is or why one belief is superior to another, try to talk to one and they can only repeat slogans- nothing interactive.
I'd call you a bot, but bots understand language better.