Notice: You have been identified as a bot, so no internal UID will be assigned to you. If you are a real person messing with your useragent, you should change it back to something normal.
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 2 weeks ago, 2 hours later[^][v]#1,427,854
We are reaching the end of the shit show that is Victorian-style marriage. We grant women a monopoly over our time, finances, and sex, in exchange for what? A demanding nag who withholds sex? If you reframed a marriage contract as a business contract no man would sign it. “Here are 50% of my assets and future payments at an extortive rate in exchange for Jack shit.” It’s expropriation and a 14th Amendment violation.
Without marriage you have hypergamy, and most men end up leftovers after she's over the hill and forced to retire from being a whore— or they just get nothing.
The only way the average man is getting a good woman while she's still in her 20s is if he agrees to provide long-term.
Marriage is an imperfect contract that exists because the alternative is worse for both sides.
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 2 weeks ago, 5 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,427,869
Interesting thing about monogamy: human males have feminized canine teeth and human females conceal their ovulation because human females sexually selected men who were weaker in order to reduce male aggression.
Anonymous D double-posted this 2 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,427,870
It’s actually a trait of all hominins that the males have little canine teeth like the females going back millions of years. It’s kinda funny when you think about it, that we’re really just a species of sissies.
Anonymous C replied with this 2 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,427,872
@1,427,869 (D)
After a woman married her main protection shifted from fathers and brothers to her husband, especially if she moved far from home.
Picking a weak husband might protect her from that one male, but would expose her to danger from all the other men in the area. The best strategy is picking a strong male she can trust, then she is protected from many men and only exposed to danger from one male who has already been vetted. If that one is controlling that just means she is more cooperative and more willing to pump out more kids.
Anonymous D double-posted this 2 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,427,874
@1,427,872 (C)
Well, I mean, if we’re talking about human evolution, it’s sort of arbitrary whether we call them men and women or males and females since the earlier hominins resembled apes more than modern humans. And they wouldn’t have called it marriage.
It’s also not completely true that women are defenseless. Contrary to popular belief, over time, men and women both evolved more narrow hips from our more ape-like (we’re all apes but you know what I mean) ancestors. So there was evolutionary pressure for women to be good at running, it’s just there’s a trade off between that and giving birth.
But humans have skeletons that are specialized for running. Even though we have larger brains, it was still advantageous for human women to be able to run. Women still have wider hips than men, but they clearly were doing some amount of physical activity.
> Well, I mean, if we’re talking about human evolution, it’s sort of arbitrary whether we call them men and women or males and females since the earlier hominins resembled apes more than modern humans. And they wouldn’t have called it marriage.
> Without marriage you have hypergamy, and most men end up leftovers after she's over the hill and forced to retire from being a whore— or they just get nothing. > > The only way the average man is getting a good woman while she's still in her 20s is if he agrees to provide long-term. > > Marriage is an imperfect contract that exists because the alternative is worse for both sides.
Hypergamy only works for women 20-32, upper reaches of 35-40 if she’s gorgeous. Most women are looking for “something real” by 30-32, which is the perfect time to have your fun. Just tell them whatever they want to hear.
Sure, I’ve run into women in their mid-late 40s who are on the hypergamy thing but they’d have to marry someone 65-70. I had one woman who was +45 who said she wanted to have a family. I told her unless she was adopting she waited too long.
> After a woman married her main protection shifted from fathers and brothers to her husband, especially if she moved far from home. > > Picking a weak husband might protect her from that one male, but would expose her to danger from all the other men in the area. The best strategy is picking a strong male she can trust, then she is protected from many men and only exposed to danger from one male who has already been vetted. If that one is controlling that just means she is more cooperative and more willing to pump out more kids.
What is a strong male? Some gym buffed behemoth can be felled by a willing male who applies treachery, surprise, and extreme violence. It’s more mindset. I walked away from altercations in my 20s where I could “kick his ass” in a fist fight because I knew the guy would use a weapon or blow up my car a week later.
Anonymous D replied with this 2 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,427,882
@1,427,876 (C)
Humans don’t practice polygyny. Male humans don’t compete with other male humans so that the strongest male can mate with the females. That’s the way it works in most other mammalian species including other primates, but humans are actually monogamous. There was evolutionary pressure for males to be less aggressive. In primates, canine teeth are correlated with competition between males. Humans have small canine teeth because male humans don’t compete for mates. This is also why women don’t display whether or not they’re fertile. In mammalian species that practice polygyny, the males only mate with the females when the females are fertile because otherwise it’s not worth the danger from competing with other males.
Anonymous D double-posted this 2 weeks ago, 18 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,427,885
(There’s a different meaning of the word polygyny when talking about human cultures vs animals, if you’re talking about animals it’s a mating system, if you’re talking about humans it’s more similar to polygamy. I’m talking about the mating system not the cultural thing.)
Anonymous D replied with this 2 weeks ago, 9 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,427,889
@previous (A)
I’m not wrong btw, there’s a reason why male chimps have been canine teeth, male gorillas have big canine teeth, male orangutans have big canine teeth, and you don’t. It’s because you were bred by women over millions of years to be weak.
> Humans don’t practice polygyny. Male humans don’t compete with other male humans so that the strongest male can mate with the females. That’s the way it works in most other mammalian species including other primates, but humans are actually monogamous. There was evolutionary pressure for males to be less aggressive. In primates, canine teeth are correlated with competition between males. Humans have small canine teeth because male humans don’t compete for mates. This is also why women don’t display whether or not they’re fertile. In mammalian species that practice polygyny, the males only mate with the females when the females are fertile because otherwise it’s not worth the danger from competing with other males.
Not generally. It’s more subdued in developed societies. Check out the Yanomami. They war to build harems of women and fight other males. Something like 49% of males die from inter communal and dueling violence. All for possession of women with flapjack boobs and who squat to shit in the same communal cesspools as anybody else.
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 2 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,427,898
If there was a pill I could take that made me attracted to morbidly obese women, I'd gladly take it. (None of them in the photo are morbidly obese, yes I know).
Anonymous I double-posted this 2 weeks ago, 5 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,427,902
It doesn’t matter what society on Earth you look at, monogamy, concealed ovulation, and feminized canine teeth are ancestral traits of all hominins, and Homo sapiens are the only extant hominin species. It’s more than a cultural or a racial thing, if you looked at Neanderthals, the women would have concealed ovulation, the males would have feminized canine teeth, and most of the relationships would have been monogamous. It evolved before our species did. Tribes that practice polygamy aren’t less evolved than we are and evidence of some precondition that all humans lived like, polygamy is usually the result of some particular religious beliefs.
Anonymous I triple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,427,903
Essentially, if you find a skeleton of an ape, that’s less than 5 million years old, and it has big canine teeth, it’s a chimpanzee ancestor not a human ancestor.
Anonymous I quadruple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 13 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,427,908
Even if you go as far back as Australopithecus afarensis and look at 3 million year old hominin canine teeth, they’re smaller than the canine teeth of modern apes. It’s one of the things that separates humans from other animals. There’s literally nobody of any race in any culture that doesn’t have that trait.
Anonymous I quintuple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 6 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,427,910
And the way we know that canine teeth are associated with male competition is because there are primarily herbivorous ape species that have big canine teeth. It has nothing to do with meat eating.