it's true. for real, like gay guy, they like men. it's why they're gay. they're not into women at all. they like men, and men act like men, even gay men still behave as men. they look like men, they act like men, they're men, and gay guys love that stuff.
and so, no, they're not in my pool of potential partners. even if i'm into them, they just aren't interested. if i flirt and stuff they react like straight men do to gay men flirting with them. that's how appealing men are to gay guys, and they just don't like women like that.
straight guys, they're super into women. like, really, compulsively into women. they're so into women that a significant number of them aren't going to split hairs when it comes to some of the finer details. straight guys will overlook like A LOT flaws in the women they hook up with. you know? you see it all the time. straight guys with women that have like major personality disorders, or physical variations of ALL KINDS. i'm not even kidding.
straight guys just see me like they see a bipolar girl. Fuckable [Y/n]
I'm telling you. I've hooked up with some guys, and they are straight, STRAIGHT guys. guys don't care. not when they see a hot chick in their eyes, they will fuck. that's all there is to it.
so it's not really even confusing and just makes perfect sense. there's nothing gay about a guy fucking around with a woman who happens to be trans, or bipolar, or older, or sexy as hell.
isn't that weird? but it's true. it's just true. awesome huh?
Buni (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 9 minutes later, 16 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,187,637
the big difference though is that like bipolar girls can get away with hiding their bipolarism. cause you know, a guy finds out they're bipolar and some will be like, mleh, that's fine. some guys won't and they'll just block their number and move.
if a transgender woman tries to do that then, sure, some guys will be all, mleh, that's fine. some guys won't and they will murder you.
it's always the straight guys that kill transwomen. never gay guys, or any kind of woman, it's just straight men. so.
my potential pool of male partners for dating is ALSO my potential pool of male murderers who will murder me.
luckily the venn diagram on this overwhelmingly overlaps straight men who are into trans and straight men who are, mleh, just going to be compulsively straight about it. and the murders are overwhelmingly ALSO in the homophobic section of the population (who also secretly overlap with the Gay but closeted sector of the homosexual community.) so it's less likely they'll just be looking for a fling. that kinda thing is what they do with gay guys.
so, the safest straight guys who won't likely murder you are really just the down to fuck guys.
unless you know THEY know you're trans then if they try to long-term you, careful princess. that may be the wrong long term you're looking for.
Buni (OP) double-posted this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 17 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,187,638
@1,187,635 (Green !StaYqkzUPc)
i mean, okay, do you know how many guys i've hooked up with that liked penis? zero. it's like expecting them to pay attention to a clit. they just don't.
Buni (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 47 seconds later, 21 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,187,640
@1,187,635 (Green !StaYqkzUPc)
and, look, it's cute and all that you have an opinion, sugar, but, i know way, way more about this than anyone here. bet.
like, BET. so. you don't have to believe it, but that doesn't change how the world works sweetheart.
Buni (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 3 minutes later, 26 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,187,644
@1,187,641 (Green !StaYqkzUPc)
again, sugar, that's real cute. but that's not how the world works. that's how porn works for bi curious tranny chasers who dont really hook up with usually anyone. those women are nothing but 80k dollars in surgeries and viagra.
you know what viagra does to real transwomen? idk either. because none of them care. estrogen and androgen blockers. look it up. the side effects, just stop mattering entirely.
Buni (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 59 seconds later, 27 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,187,646
@1,187,643 (Green !StaYqkzUPc)
okay, i won't patronize you. but, im right, you're wrong. that's not patronizing. that's just, mleh, how things work in the real world.
Green !StaYqkzUPc replied with this 3 years ago, 2 minutes later, 31 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,187,648
@1,187,646 (Buni)
No, in the real world you are gay if you get turned on by dick. You could present as the most beautiful woman in the world, but if you have a dick you will not appeal to straight men.I know you said you've been with straight men, but they probably have internalised homosexuality if they like dick.
Buni (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 33 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,187,649
you know what matters to trans women? ask any women and they'll tell you. sex is almost entirely, like, what guys worry about. all the time. women, i mean, yeah, it's nice. and can be great and amazing and a true like, bonding and emotional experience. and sometimes there's a crazy good orgasm. but that's just not the point of it, not really.
you dont get it. i know. i've been there. but, it's just the truth.
Buni (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 2 minutes later, 38 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,187,652
@1,187,648 (Green !StaYqkzUPc)
i have spent literally hundreds of hours, deep in conversations on this very topic with with straight guys who are totally into me. you're thinking about things from an incredibly narrow, biased point of view and everything you're saying, i'll just be totally honest,
green. you sound like an ignorant person explaining Quantum Physics by talking about particles when it has nothing to do with point clouds and is exclusively and only about fields. QFT quantum field theory. Straight guys are the only guys into trans women. that's the equivalency principle.
that's the truth of it. homophobes say stuff like it's gay to like trans women cause its all about the dick, when it absolutely is NOT about the dick. you see what i'm saying?
Buni (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 10 seconds later, 42 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,187,657
but, i was also an incredibly psychologically compartmentalized assembly of a person and had different, like, aspects of my personality that mostly i held out as dumb straight guy doing straight things like licking clits. but, that was just the aspects of me that i chose to present. i'm not kidding you guys.
Green !StaYqkzUPc replied with this 3 years ago, 2 minutes later, 44 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,187,658
And I'm doubling down on my point. Call me bigoted, ignorant anythingphobic you want. If you are with a transwomen and you get turned on even after seeing a dick: you're gay.
Buni (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 20 seconds later, 45 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,187,659
@1,187,656 (Green !StaYqkzUPc)
okay, you're just totally broing out right now and missing the entire point. it's okay, green. i'm not challenging your manness.
so, let's talk about buttered crumpets and you don't have to worry about dicks. you're not hooking up with trans women, so, it really doesn't matter to you, right?
Buni (OP) triple-posted this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 48 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,187,663
i've said this before, why are you asking? are you trying to find out if i fuck assholes? cause i'm just like every other woman in the world who's told you i'm not interested.
lol.
i dont really mean that svet. i would if you were asking to try and mock me, it's just i've been down that line of questioning before.
Green !StaYqkzUPc replied with this 3 years ago, 2 minutes later, 55 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,187,670
Listen, I apologise if I have caused offence. If you identify as a woman now and are happy with it, then I am happy with it and will refer to you with the correct pronouns. We will just have to agree to disagree with this point, I will always think that liking dick is gay, whether it's on a regular man or a beautiful trans woman. Dicks are inherently masculine.
Buni (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 27 seconds later, 55 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,187,671
and i'm specifically not accusing anyone of being homosexual, or anyone of being trans. i'm just saying, it's highly likely that if A straight guy, not a specific anyone, just in general, but it's just highly likely that straight guys will be the guys who would fuck trans women. gay guys, there is aa zero percent chance of that happening. I have literally run the experiment numerous times.
Erik !AltRitexT6 replied with this 3 years ago, 23 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,187,692
@1,187,663 (Buni)
No sorry I'm not mocking you. You're just a new person to talk to here after Fake anon banned a bunch of people for not being left wing
Buni (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 43 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,708
@previous (Erik !AltRitexT6)
i know, i wasn't mocking you either. not you the individual. that's an answer to that question that i usually give when, like on face book, i'd have someone profile stalk me because they saw me post in a group, and clicked to see my pics, then get to mentions of trans stuff, they get weirded out and mad that they liked my pics, and then show up asking unrelated questions and trying to pass it off like i should be ashamed. I've been down that specific road a few times and i love that comment because i've seen people delete any trial from entire groups i was in because it probably embarrassed the hell out of the to get shot down by the object of their ridicule. i know that has the sound of arrogance, and assumptions and condescension, but there's not much i can do about that. i'm sure black people and gay people in periods where they were openly discriminated against and had to push back against attempts to dehumanize the probably sounded like uppity rosa parks or someone. not that i'm her, but that there are some parallels. and i'm sure some people on that bus were real embarrassed they got owned by a Nigg- oo, like, back then that was just like tranny. just what people called them. and i'm sure a lot of people thought that rosa parks shoulda just sat at the back because their invalid opinions.
but i know y'all aren't bigots and intentionally trying to dehumanize someone, actually, an online friend some of y'all knew for years and years. but, that doesn't make greens wrong perspective a valid dissent that i'll say i will agree to disagree with.
and i know you're not mocking me, but i will add, it's generally correct to assume if a person is trans, more than likely they're a bottom. especially if they are taking hormones. yes, there are trans that top, but it's not as typical. and they may identify and gender fluid or androgenous or something, may not take hormones, if they do they may avoid androgen blockers. or take supplemental T in addition to estrogen. i know it's a murky end of the pool, but honestly so are homo and hetero sexual inclinations. some straight dudes just love getting pegged. some people are big time into fisting or something. green can't get an erection if he even thinks he sees a penis.
and those questions about pegging, like, hey, fake anon, you into being pegged? no one asks that. but am i a top or bottom? and tbh, that's more a question for someone who is a gay man.
transwomen? not so much, but, i feel you, sometimes people get up to all kinds of shenanigans. i get why it's asked, but, there's also the fact that it's a fairly irrelevant question for trans women. but, i used to present as a guy and i fucked women, so i see where it comes from. why didn't rosa parks just go sit in the back in the open seat and let everyone stop yelling and just get on with their day?
Buni (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,726
@previous (Green !StaYqkzUPc)
you know i'm squeegee right? the time traveler. dating prostitutes? was anon charley? was a shaman? predicted trumps coup attempt? remember Ivankarations? what else, i mean, there was no end or beginning to the bonkers things that i've said or done.
like, right y'all? isn't this kinda exactly baseline squeegee
and you believed every single other thing i've said.
Green !StaYqkzUPc replied with this 3 years ago, 19 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,728
@1,187,726 (Buni)
I didn't believe any of that stuff. Anyway, you're admitting that you could be bonkers. Could it be possible that on this issue you are bonkers and wrong?
Buni (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,732
@previous (Green !StaYqkzUPc)
see, no. because i know the difference between my own trolling, and self evident truths from my life time of true experiences.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 3 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,751
@1,187,708 (Buni)
I'm happy you have an active sex life but also like, you're kinda going a little off the rails here. Most straight cis men will only sleep with straight cis women. I don't really have interest in policing who's straight or who's gay or whatever, but based on the straight men I know, it is fairly uncommon for straight men to want to sleep with a trans woman.
As you said, there is a big chunk of straight men who will get angry/violent when they find out the woman they're seeing is trans. There are also some straight men who don't care or are into it. It can both be true that most of the men you sleep with are straight, and that most straight men would not sleep with you. There's no contradiction here. I'm not trying to be argumentative, I just think you're extrapolating from your own life experience to the world writ large in a way that is overstated.
Buni (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,758
@1,187,751 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
i would only say that from my perspective, you are a little biased. you may be a straight man who wouldn't, green may be too, but, how would either of you know the other isn't lying and hiding it. who knows? well, transwomen who totally can say straight guys who mess with trans really only tell that to transwomen.
Buni (OP) double-posted this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,759
@1,187,751 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
it's not just me thou, ask any trans woman and they tell you. like, everyone's heard the meme traps aren't gay, or whatever right?
Buni (OP) triple-posted this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,760
@1,187,751 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
and i know you're not being argumentative. but, you can't really speak for all cis men, you can speak for you. I can speak for a crossection who have disclosed to me private things they won't advertise to all cis men. and trans women do talk. ergo, the meme traps arent gay is literally actually the truth of it.
Buni (OP) quadruple-posted this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,762
and this IS generally not the hill most trans women choose to die on. because of the extreme pushback against the view. because it's almost like accusing all guys here of wanting to fuck trans women. and thats not the case, but i do understand the pushback.
Fake Anon is correct. While a lot of the people who are into transwomen are "straight" men, that doesn't mean most straight men are into transwomen. Even a percentage of the people who would sleep with a transwoman are just looking for someone to cum inside of, and may not actually be into transwomen.
TL;DR
As usual, Mark has the most level-headed and accurate opinion in the draad.
Buni (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,769
and, yes, a big number of men would be mad if they were "trapped" by trans. but, the average life expectancy for trans women is 35. the idea of even trying that kinda thing is just insane. it just doesn't happen unless the girl is batshit and has a death wish. otherwise, i'm very candid and open about my transness and so are every transwoman i've ever met. but, i have something in the neighborhood of 30,000 men just since february of this year who have messaged my social media asking if i want to fuck, and they are not confused about my transness. and i'm just one girl, there are a couple of hundred of us in dallas that are on social media accounts like that. yeah, theres overlap i'm sure. but i'm passively collecting to scrape things like number of unique user ids.
Buni (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,773
@1,187,769 (Buni)
and if i were to be active, and update my profile to make it front and center and on the "new activity" page and stuff, the most i've ever gotten in a day doing that was just over 2000.
Buni (OP) triple-posted this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,775
there are likely, in dallas, out of like 7 million people? at least half a million guys who are actively pursuing transwomen routinely throughout their lives.
Buni (OP) quintuple-posted this 3 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,777
@previous (Buni)
and supposedly, this individual who is a friend of a friend from a long time ago, just likes me, thinks i'm attractive and loves my sense of humor and is apparently smitten. never really considered trans women before cause, didn't actually know any. i pop up on facebook for the first tie in 11 years, and guy just likes me. so. idk.
Buni (OP) sextuple-posted this 3 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,778
none of that leads to any hard figures. like 10% 5% or 70%, like, idk. all i can say is there is a, i figured this one, average penis is 6" long
30,000 so that's like, 15,000 feet of cock, almost 3 solid miles of dick in dallas that's, you know, talking to ME
Buni (OP) septuple-posted this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,779
which is just funny. cause that's like 6 or 7 miles of cock a year. i could literally ride a train of straight cock from here to downtown dallas with cock to spare
Buni (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,782
my gay friends are SHOCKED by how much attention trans profiles get. and that from gay guy on grindr, and they have limitless cock options. there is zero way for me to even be discerning i just straight up ignore it and scrape for date so i can make cock train jokes. i met men out at places, like cis people usually do. apps are just white noise, like a static buzz of dic pics and dudes saying "sup" 11 ties a week.
Buni (OP) double-posted this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,784
which means my stupid storage on my phone contains damn near half a million messages from the 2 or whatever years its been since i wiped my social edia stuff. it's just obscene.
Buni (OP) triple-posted this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,785
some guys hit me up all the dang time, and have for 2 years. they literally just spam every trans girl they see, so its actually entirely frivolous, of the insane number of people that hmu, ive met 2. from that kind of app
Buni (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,788
so yeah, my anecdotal experience is relatively meaningless. but, i've been propositioned for prostitution outside having a cigarette. if i'm in the elevator alone with a man, they usually chat me up. meaningless, but, i mean, stuff that NEVER happened to me before. it's just, i'm pretty aware of attention and interest and can tell when i'm being flirted with. happens to women all the time. nothing much comes from it. but still. it's, a lot of guys that are less obstinate about it that, NO, NEVER. THE HORROR!
Buni (OP) double-posted this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,789
@1,187,787 (Erik !AltRitexT6)
it's been a different kind of 3 years of life for me since i was really last here. i'll say that. drugs? weed. same as before.
Buni (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,791
@1,187,787 (Erik !AltRitexT6)
and atm i'm just having a conversation and not really bullshitting for the moment. at some point this went from a, like, "lol, this is always a controversial topic," to i guess whatever we're doing now
Buni (OP) double-posted this 3 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,792
@1,187,790 (F)
thank you for including me in all women. ur right big whoop. i'm just saying, gay guys aren't in my pool of possible partners. apparently there is some controversy here in that statement for some
Buni (OP) triple-posted this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,793
like, food for thought. it's an interesting odd little truth about the trans experience most people, except transwomen and the straight guys who know what's up, really have any way of knowing.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 3 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,794
@1,187,758 (Buni) @1,187,759 (Buni) @1,187,760 (Buni)
This topic is sort of spiraling out of control but in general I think comparing transwomen to ciswomen with mental illnesses, implying that the people you are talking with could secretly be lying, comparing yourself to Rosa Parks, and then saying you know more about this topic than I could ever hope to know are not conducive to good conversation. I wish you well but you are acting in truly a strange way.
Buni (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 3 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,795
and, i do get a lot of clever questions from people and i give them the stupid answer. and i often get told by my old irl friends, are you gay, or we didn't know you're gay, or ask about gay bars and dating gay guys.
and the stupid answer is, lol. how the fuck do i explain this...
Buni (OP) double-posted this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,796
@1,187,794 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
well, hold on now though. i wasn't comparing trans to mental illness. i was talking about guy overlooking major considerations when selecting a partner. i could've just as easily said ugly women. or fat.
Buni (OP) triple-posted this 3 years ago, 51 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,797
and i didnt imly either of you WERE lying, i said you two would have no way of knowing the truth of each others statement concerning privat maters involving others.
Buni (OP) quadruple-posted this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,798
and i specifically said multiple times, not that i am rosa parks, but i was speaking to discriminated insular populations of people being dehumanized and people calling that Agreeing to disagree
Buni (OP) sextuple-posted this 3 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,800
@1,187,794 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
if you are having a difficult time finding an argument to support your position, that's one thing. if you just are bored, that's fine too. but dont sit there and straw man things that i DIDNT say by misconstruing the actual points i was making. that's dirty pool mr. if this is a debate, then debate me on the merits of your argument. dont ad hominim this girl.
Buni (OP) septuple-posted this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,801
and i'm sorry to come across as rude, but, let's not start throwing around personal attacks just because i'm trans and and y'all want to say i'm weird now.
Buni (OP) nonuple-posted this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,804
i just have an unpopular opinion, and it's very difficult to deconstruct and dismiss, because it does have merits. and it's kinda unsettling to think that things may not be as black and white as a lot of people believe.
Buni (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 3 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,810
and, look, y'all arent stupid people. y'all are quite smart people, it's one of the reasons ive been on and off this board with y'all for what, 12 years? idk when i got here. so, don't think im trying to just win a dumb argument, or thing that i'm making people look foolish or anything like that. but, ya'll are my friends, and, if anyone is going to actually understand me in this world, it'll be my friends before any strangers. and i ve been having these kinda conversations with hundreds of people for weeks since i came out to everyone ive ever know. for 3 years, it's been family and close friends. i was in a large fraternity once. that's been extremely touchy ground to walk on.
Buni (OP) triple-posted this 3 years ago, 8 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,812
i've been assaulted by vehicular battery because i was walking when trans. my doctor is being sued for malpractice for negligently losing vital bloodwork showing deadly illness. menengitis. almost died from sepsis, ICU for 10 days. trying to sue their dicks off. i have a lawfirm who contacted me. i've had people try to rob me multiple times. i've been raped. i've been harassed by the police multiple times and had them refuse to do their jobs twice. nothing i can do about most of that. i've had numerous stalkers. i've been refused service at businesses.
all that, like, i'm just going to say, i've gotten used to looking out for stuff that, uh, i shouldnt have to. ive been shot at. had a bun pulled on me. i've stood in front of someone with a boot knife in my hand and stand my ground in heels.
pretty much some of the scariest shit ever for me. i helped girls get off of meth, and get away from pimps.a 17 year old runaway, i harbored for 2 weeks until she got into rehab and went back to family.
Buni (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,818
and i have a book publisher who i've been talking to on like a "interested level" which is just me brgging now cause it's kinda neat and may not even go anywhere anyway
> and i have a book publisher who i've been talking to on like a "interested level" which is just me brgging now cause it's kinda neat and may not even go anywhere anyway
> Also mamy cis women get murdered by partners all of the time, and they definitely overlook personality flaws in men
I bet trans women are more likely to get murdered because they likely have to overlook more personality flaws in men due to a more limited pool of men available who are into trans women
Buni (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 24 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,829
@1,187,825 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
i've known 3. and one was an activist who gave speeches at pride events. muhlasia booker. most are just black women or latina
Buni (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 47 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,833
killed in domestic violence, maybe. but straight up homicide, that's a but much. and, i won't get into the various assaults and public beatings, cause, honestly there's no reason to have a dick measuring contest. dave chappelle already mucks murdered transwomen to keep attention on black men killed by cops.
Buni (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 5 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,842
@1,187,834 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
i wont disagree, but also, get a job as trans. it's a fucking joke. sex work and, it's the underground component of an insular group pushed into hiding. because transwomen are discriminated against and villainized, or characterized as wicked or whatever, they arent seen, and there's a terrible amount of underground kind of stuff around groups in hiding. there's predators and the works in the areas people can't see into. so, yeah, lots of prostitution. it's one way to survive. hardly one most anyone ever wants. @1,187,835 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
frankly, because people end in death. it matters because thats it. thats all we got. all of us. you end. and, a beating or a rape or whatever, probably preferrable to being ended. but, they all matter. i'm just saying there's no reason to gratuitously swim in those violent waters right here right now. we're just talking.
Buni (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 53 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,845
@1,187,837 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
they're almost mythical. ive never actually met anyone who claimed bi and wasn't actually mostly hetero or homo. i'm sure they're out there, but, most seem more, i guess pan. idk. they'll fuck around unless they're opposed to someone. but, i've never met anyone who was bi and open about it either. i know hetero, i know homosexual people but bi is kinda elusive. most everyone is just shocked that i've been with women, and en, and trans, and gone back and forth, and recently was in a relationship with a man. people are still like, so... you're gay then?
Buni (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 4 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,849
@1,187,844 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
domestic violence is nothing to be overlooked, and the kinds of specific discrimination faced by trans women is not going to shrink domestic violence faced by women to an invisible problem. it is okay to call attention to the dead trannies littering the streets. frankly, america is a violent fucking country. and everyone just acts like it's the safest place ever in the world. and, god damn. women and children are killed by the hundreds. thousands. its sick. and, our media and leaders, talk about god damned fucking bathrooms.
Buni (OP) double-posted this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,850
@1,187,848 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
it may very well be, i can speak for everyone. i cant say that absolutely straight men are not strictly opposed to andyhting except ADMITTING that they fuck trans booty.
Buni (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 5 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,856
and thats part of the problem. the trns community is like gay, or hetero. there 2 people in a relationship. Who's fucking all the transwomen? they're all scared of being known and hiding it. pretending to be whatever because society just shames the fuck out of anything trans related. because women are considered so weak and second class to men, that for a man to admire and model themselves after women, hes a sissy. and trash. and a joke. cause who wouldt want to be a great awesome powerful man? or something like that.
but, still. half or MORE of the tarns community, our "life partners" are all keeping quiet, and just going around fucking and leaving, fucking and leaving, bouncing from bed to bed and going home to their wives or girlfriends that they end up divorcing sometimes. they cant openly be with trans women, and so all the men who COULD protect their partners if they WOULD and off beating their wives they don't really love. idk. idk where these 30k men who wanted to fuck GO, like. fuck. go to walmart, you probably won't see 1 transwoman, but, i bet you walk past ten dudes who'd love to fuck one. idk.
Buni (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 4 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,861
@1,187,851 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
falsehoods? i'm not trying to make it a contest, i'm just pointing at the life expectancy and murder rate among trans. i'm not trying to draw direct comparisons. men live to be 70 something too. and born men, trans women would have more to compare to men in overall life expectancy? idk. most people get twice the life on average as transwomen. that's all i'm saying. and, its because they are forced to live secretly to avoid mulaysia bookers fate. where a crowd of people paid a dude 200 bucks to beat her in a parking lot. and she was shot in the face a few months later in completely unrelated attack.
trans women have got to be able to live openly without being mocked and discriminated against. same with our partners. period. and that should in not way take away from the problems of women. but, idk what you're saying. should people not worry about trans women? and let, just open mockery.
no one here calls anyone a nigger. you know? not in a long time.
Buni (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 21 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,865
i have guy friends who won't meet to sit down and have a platonic friend dinner, because they are just mortified someone will think they think i'm pretty
Buni (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 27 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,869
@1,187,863 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
no probably about it.
but, everyone is more worried about where trans women urinate or if they swim in school races than if they turn up floating dead in lakes or die shot in the face in a puddle of their own piss
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC quadruple-posted this 3 years ago, 8 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,877
Also I'm not trying to be mean, but it feels like you need only straight guys to want to fuck you (as opposed to bi or gay) and for them to really not want to touch your penis, because it's makes you feel more like a woman, or maybe a true trans?
Anonymous D replied with this 3 years ago, 9 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,882
@1,187,787 (Erik !AltRitexT6)
Yes. Something has clearly gone seriously wrong with Squeegee's mental health since he was last here. At first I thought he was just excitable but this constant manic behaviour an disorganized thoughts are not normal
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 3 years ago, 27 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,883
I think this is just our normal squeegee, honestly. She always wrote long posts like this!
Anyway, i'll just point out that any sort of trans life expectancy or murder/suicide statistic is impossible to collect... Just look at how our friend Nexus was treated by her family... deadnamed and listed as a dead man in her obituary. And that's somebody who was actively medically transitioning.
Buni (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 31 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,886
@1,187,873 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
1. personal experience is not a terribly reliable for of evidence. and it doesn't necessarily speak broadly to a universal experience.
same as your claim that straight men don't ignore trans womens penises, because "you know in your experience" touches on how your 4th point and challenging the first question, "in my experience they are straight men."
so, lets be real, neither of us speaks universally to the trans experience. you can question me and state the same form of fact? no. we cant either of us say universally it's one or the other. the truth is in the middle somewhere.
there are two kinda general (not exclusively just 2, but for theory sake) groups of guys.
1. guys who really aren't interested and aren't going to do pay any attention to trans genitals.
2. guys who are, i won't say utterly fixated on, but have a rather focused interest on getting to play with the toys.
okay. yes, there are other kinds of guys out there, but, i did point out earlier in all of my posts, that, in my opinion, the second group are not the ones typically interested in like, long term romantic involvement. i called them tourists, which is totally unfair, but, in the trans community a lot of women kinda refer to them as chasers, which is a derogatory term. they are seen as the bi-curious of the trans world. they get their jollies, and then they block your number, yada yada, they may lie lie lie and say allll kinds of stuff to get to blow a girl, then, pfff, gone. that's one kind of experience. i know there are other kinds. such as what girls refer to as Regs. regulars. "boyfriends" without any of the baggage and all the benefits. i called the guy buddy friends. not boyfriends. just guys who were my buddy friend. fuck buddy friends. right? and they'll spend a day, maybe a weekend, maybe a few hours, sometimes more, usually not. and then, they gotta go "out of town" cause they work in houston, or what the hell other bs they spin. they'll have made u names sometimes, lie about the fake job they don't really work. like, i had Ishmael. i just from the beginning gave him that name and he never corrected it i knew i could text whenever, cause i knew to ask. "don;t tell me you're married, i dont wanna know ishmael, but, if i should wait for you to text first, that's fine. or, can i text you nudes at 3am cause i want to? cause, i fucking will if you lie and say nah bae, it's coo... can i, or no?" sure. okay, cool. and yup. i did a lot.
so, regs, chasers to be tranny about it. regs, they were the dudes dudes. chasers could be anyone, but usually they werent riding harleys. noting wrong with any of that, but, my point earlier was that chasers could some times become trans later, tended to also include crossdressers, and were generally "other interested" with other meaning lots of different things. regs, again, just tended to in my experience and from conversations with other women, girls regs tended to be "straight guys open to fucking but not interested in trans genitals."
and, the reason i wrote big walls about it, is because, shit, so many people assume it's gay guys who are my partners. they assume my partners are out and available and socially accepted and there's nothing wrong with the specific toxicly masculine way of aiming shame on straight men who would suddenly be "gay men" and it's harmful in that all those guys are too scared to be known, and trans women live it. every day. and the men sneak around and women are left or put into risk so guys can be shameful cowards because culturally they will be ruined. reputations ruined. it's just a bad and wrong false belief, that leads to people asking a trans woman, oh so you're gay now?? oh, so you like guy men now? and it's like, nah, bro. but your best friend has been chatting me up for 2 solid weeks and basically we're both just nuts over each other and you keep posting anti trans homophobic shit and your friend really would just like to be happy. and you make it shameful and hurtful for 2 people to just walk down the street or go to dinner. cause shame shame shame. and if people only know HOW MANY people are just lying about it and hiding it and sneaking around and leaving the women they love to just twist in the wind and piss behind buildings instead on in a stall. it's damaging to not try and have things change, be understood, and normalized.
gay men really are into men that are masculine or maybe twink, but, gay men just aren't into women. and transwomen do everything to not be anything male. the "better they are at being trans" the less a gay guy is even going to look their way. so, that's gotta be understood, and yeah, i know, bi guys, and ok, thats bi guys. I' talking about your queer as a 3 dollar bill flaming homosexuals. gay man. GAY MEN GAY MEN. not into trans women they just aren't the pool of partners, yup, bi guys are sometimes there too, but, they are not GAY.
straight men, and yes, bi men, of which there are just far fewer. bi is not like even close to the largest component of LGBTQ
GAY MEN are the largest component of lgbtq. especially considering trans, lesians, yes, some will be with trans. absolutely. is it a very large segment? no. say, 10 percent of trans women end up with lesbians (making shit up atm for example) say 10 percent are with bi.
say 30 % of ALL trans women find long term partners in the LBTQ+ group, and say ten percent of them end up with gay men
so 40% of trans women, almost half, have long term partners within LGBTQ+ include trans
50%, half of all trans women draw long term partners from lgbtq+
does that even remotely appear to represent reality in your experience and knowledge of the trans community.
half?
i would put it at less than 20% of trans women find partners in lgbtq+ but, idk. maybe 30%
point is, where are the rest of their partners coming from? and it's straight men. straight men.
straight men, i believe, comprise a majority of the partners available for trans women,
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE DONT EVEN WANT TO ADMIT A SINGLE STRAIGHT MAN CAN BE WITH A TRANS WOMAN.
that's my point. is it ALL straight men? NO! but, there it is a significant part of the transgender pool of partners are just in fact STRAIGHT MEN. AND THAT IS MOTHER FUCKING OKAY YOU GOD DAMN NERDS
jesus.
2. well, i can't be, and so they don't end up being friends. technically i was talking about friends i had before, wo now inexplicably are always just too busy. known them for 30 years. now, suddenly, no text for years. no visiting for years, no dinner for years? yeah, no, you're right. they are just no longer friends of mine. might as well be strangers who wouldn't piss on me if i was on fire. so, yeah. i can't be.
3. i'm not even making that a huge central point, except that they are shamed into it culturally. its not like they're just "heels", oh that jerry he's such a CAD. no, kook, i'm talking about systemic cultural HIDING. they don't just not respect, sometimes they do but they are forced to DENY their own existence as a suiter of trans women. not talking about bad boys lovem and leavem types. im talking about a majority of the trans community forced to accept endless one night stands with hundreds of men just to satisfy their base need for human fucking companionship. i'm talking about being prevented from EVER HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY to fall in love and be loved. because systemic cultural TOXIC MASCULINITY or whatever has green over there making asanine conclusions about Gay men because he is too insecure to watch porn with DICKS in it. the very IDEA that a straight man could love ME panics green into a fit of homophobic self delusional emergency heteromania IDK.
there's been a ton of pushback about Straight men loving trans women. And look, that's all i've known. are straight men, and some of them were nuts for me. and so far, they've all got balls smaller than mine
and, for real, if i am the luckiest woman in the god damned world, then this guy i'm talking to, is like, my world. the one person ever that'll make everything else worth it.
and some of yall know exactly what i'm feeling, but, let me say. i'm 44. and, this is different. for me i mean.
and i may lose that. because unless this guy is, like a miracle, he'll just be another reg. or a chaser for green to deny the existence of and fake anon to question the validity of the importance of these facts:
Gay men are not into trans women. Straight Men are the MEN who are into trans women.
YES OTHER PEOPLE LIKE WOMEN ARE TOO. but, straight men are the men that are into trans women. and i will die on that hill.
why do i get validation from men? you know, kook i tried for a really long time to be validated by women. and you know what, that was not the hill for me to die on. i'm not trying to take away anything from women.
trans women get murdered! -oh, but eveyrone gets murdered, so what?
trans women suffer from whatever! -oh, but everyone suffers from whatever, so what?
i like you ashley. i agree with you on a lot of things. and i hope you don't take this the wrong way. you probably will, and so i will apologise right now, i dont want to say this.
but shut up. i still love you, i care about y'all, and i don't want people to hate on me or be mad. and, so, please understand.
I am going to shut the fuck up myself. i'm going to chill now after 7 hours. and go for a walk. idk. but i'm taking my own advise. and i'm shutting up till later on. and i'll come back and be stupid fun squeegee and take nothing seriously EVER. unless i'm banned, and hopefully ashley won't hate me for telling her where she can put her concern trolling which marginalizes my ability to have a partner and marry and all that.
because i know my type. and i know the type of man that's into me.
NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
see, it's just kinda jarring to see that word much. but tranny, and tranny jokes, and stupid memes and insecure little mockeries to make trans women the new nigger jokes?
what happened to me yall ask, i mean, i remember chatting with walter about hottest trans porn star the first month i showed up anonymously.
and on a website where y'all thought i was 5'7'' and had black hair, yall werent going to FIND ME and ruin me. but still, show up and y'all like hardly believed i'd changed so much. because all the pressures from society and culture and ignorance and insecurity paralyzed me. not just here, but it's not like here makes it super easy. and, yeah, i understand it's a forum on the web, and anon at that, and nigger nigger nigger. and if you see a cock you're a faggot. and if you call yourself a woman then "real" women cease to exist.
and so, murder me, leave me for dead in a lake, let me have 300 filthy sex encounters and get SYPHILIS AGAIN. for ANOTHER 18 GOD DAMN MONTHS BECAUSE MY BIGOT DOCTOR WAS A FUCKING LYING HOMOPHOBE. let me NEVER find someone with balls bigger than mine. which, i won't lie.
i'm seen women's pussies bigger than my genitals. lol. have yet to find a man with a set bigger than mine. y?
y is that? it's not systemic shaming's fault. it's not cultural mockery 's fault.
probably just my fault.
cause i didnt say SHIT unti today. really.
squeegette. a fucking self mockery.
so, yeah, my fault, cause i waited and his till now. so. it's open season all the time. tranny tranny tranny. oh lok i'm trans now!
Buni (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 2 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,891
@1,187,889 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
no, im taking a walk so i dont say anything worse. go read my facebook see what i told everyone ive known and my parents and evreyone. way, way worse than shut the fuck up
Buni (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 2 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,894
@1,187,890 (I)
it's okay, i apologised first. i'll be back. and really. this is pretty tame. i insulted several generations of peoples families and, insulted absolutely every aspect of their being, mocked their entire worldview and belief system, just, their very character as people. it was pretty.... pretty bad.
Anonymous D replied with this 3 years ago, 33 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,899
@1,187,883 (I)
I mean yes, I think the text voice is the same. I can tell that Squeegee wrote these posts. But the behevior is way more extreme than anything before, old Squeegee was well-liked here but the current behavior is getting bad reactions.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 3 years ago, 12 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,903
Also I worked in healthcare for a very long time and I saw so many micro penises and so many vaginas, and all of the micro penises were bigger than vaginas
So I don't believe you that all men that you've been with had smaller penises than the majority of vaginas
> Buni you are a woman and you don't need men to validate. Especially straight men. Straight men hurt women > > You also don't have to make up stories about genitalia size to feel like a woman. You are a woman no matter your size there
Why are you mad at Buni? Because she said straight dudes want to bang her?
> I'm not mad at her at all > > But I can't believe that every vagina she's seen is bigger than every penis that she's seen. I've seen thousands of sets of genitalia > > Also I'm not being aggressive or insulting at all
Anonymous E replied with this 3 years ago, 1 hour later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,950
@1,187,917 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I read that the first time. I said that Buni is either on drugs or manic that’s why she’s making outrageous claims about tiny penises that are somehow smaller than women’s pubic mounds
> you know i'm squeegee right? the time traveler. dating prostitutes? was anon charley? was a shaman? predicted trumps coup attempt? remember Ivankarations? what else, i mean, there was no end or beginning to the bonkers things that i've said or done. > > like, right y'all? isn't this kinda exactly baseline squeegee > > and you believed every single other thing i've said.
this is baseline squeegee and green is wrong, but he's wrong because he loves pussy so much. if a man had a pussy he'd fuck it. green would fuck a handsome trans man's pussy, and OP is a woman with a penis. some guys don't care about genitals and just care about people. do you have to call them gay? no. why y'all so obsessed with genitals. fuck
Green !StaYqkzUPc replied with this 3 years ago, 2 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,187,997
@1,187,986 (shelly)
If she identifies as a woman that's great. But she's the one who brought this entire discussion up, knowing it would be controversial so she doesn't get a free pass and not be a cunt as well 🤷
Green !StaYqkzUPc double-posted this 3 years ago, 5 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,188,004
I don't think anyone in this thread is really being a cunt on either side, I just thing this is a controversial topic with valid opinions on both sides and it has created a lot of drama.
shelly double-posted this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 13 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,188,007
@1,188,004 (Green !StaYqkzUPc)
when you start calling people names and questioning their sanity the discussion becomes unbalanced and stupid. if someone is behaving in a way that makes you think they're unstable or otherwise mentally unwell, maybe disengage instead of egging them on
The Voice of Truth joined in and replied with this 3 years ago, 14 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,188,025
No matter what your mind thinks if you have a penis, scrota and testes and you take a man's penis into your mouth or up your anus because you are attracted to that man then you are a faggot no matter how you want to spin the tale.
Anonymous D replied with this 3 years ago, 3 hours later, 18 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,188,041
@1,187,986 (shelly)
Squeegee didn't make multiple rambling posts within the span of five minutes, he was able to make single posts that stayed concise. I can tell this is him but he's clearly changed as well.
Anonymous D double-posted this 3 years ago, 7 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,188,042
I find it a little surreal that there are posters who think that there is nothing strange about how Squeegee is acting. It's nothing to do with the tras stuff, it's how he's posting.
Fake anon said it best here @1,187,794 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU) I think. His thought process is all over the place. He's overly dramatic and exciteable. He's churning out several posts when one would do. It's not normal.
And again, I can tell that Squeegee wrote these posts. His text voice and attitude and stuff is how I remember, but it's on top of this manic behavior.
Anonymous D replied with this 3 years ago, 5 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,188,044
@previous (shelly)
I remember that sometimes he was silly but for the most part he didn't act like this. Since he been back it's pretty much been this all the time.
Erik !AltRitexT6 replied with this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,188,093
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I'm taking my work crush to lunch on Sunday and we'll probably sit by the canal in Camden and hold hands. That's pretty romantic
That's not passive aggressive. It is constructive criticism. She obviously wants to get Buni into a safe situation that is more conducive to her goals.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 3 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,188,174
If one of my cis female friends had a man that was fucking them but hiding it, I would also tell her that he wasn't a good guy and was showing red flags
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 3 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,188,189
@previous (Buni)
He doesn't take you out in public, and from how you talk, it's very clear that you believe that trans women should expect the least from men. When the bar is already in hell
Buni (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 17 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,188,262
@1,188,189 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
assume much?
what makes you that kook? seeing as how i haven't said one word about any of what you are assuming. citations perhaps?