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shelly joined in and replied with this 3 years ago, 4 minutes later, 6 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,182,539
wow not used to this kind of garbage edgelord kind of post here. all this tells a normally functioning human is that you have a clinical lack of empathy and are seeking negative attention. chill out grow up etc
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 2 minutes later, 8 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,182,542
@1,182,531 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
So do I. The topic was intended as black sarcasm.
Big problem: American law doesn't require law enforcement officials to risk their lives. In my view, Pete Arredondo was both criminally incompetent and morally bankrupt, but I doubt he'll ever face prosecution for his (in)actions that day.
Anonymous D replied with this 3 years ago, 5 minutes later, 42 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,182,563
@previous (F)
Oh, definitely, but this is at pandemic levels. Some countries they may not typically carry guns, but they're still selected from the same segment of society.
One can get the sense that corruption, brutality, incompetence and so on only happen or mostly happen in the US, and maybe the UK. That's just because language barriers. Look and you will find it. Even, and especially, in places like Norway.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 4 minutes later, 56 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,182,575
@1,182,556 (D)
The average salary for a Uvalde police officer is $19.24 per hour. Just guessing here, but I'd say the position of police chief pays considerably more.
Anonymous D replied with this 3 years ago, 51 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,182,589
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Don't go all autistic on me. You know what I meant. They are paid near the bottom end of the middle class. Or, at best, the middle of the middle class.
> There were people willing to risk their lives for no financial reward whatsoever that day.
And why aren't there droves of them signing up for the force? ...
> Sometimes, it isn't about the money.
Oh, right, they're not all lining up because there's an endless amount of jobs they could do that pay more and don't require them to risk their life on a near-daily basis.
Sounds like only a moron would take a job like that. And, what a surprise, that's also what we see.
Anonymous D double-posted this 3 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,182,591
@1,182,586 (F)
They really aren't. And, adjusted for the size of the country, this type of shit seems to happen at about the same rate in each. Planted evidence, suppression of actual evidence, deaths in "mysterious" circumstances, malicious prosecution, lying under oath, and so on.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,182,594
@1,182,580 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I'd agree. The job also offers the following benefits:
• 401(k) Pension Plan
• Dental insurance
• Health insurance
• Life insurance
• Paid time off
• Retirement plan
• Vision insurance
As I said, if the salary doesn't meet their expectations, they're perfectly welcome to explore other options. Mall security or flipping burgers seem like viable options.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 16 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,182,614
@1,182,589 (D) > They are paid near the bottom end of the middle class. Or, at best, the middle of the middle class.
"Middle class" doesn't suggest people who don't have other options.
> And why aren't there droves of them signing up for the force? ...
Can't be bothered looking up the stats, but they probably do in other parts of the country. If Uvalde's police force is neither competent nor dedicated, sack them all and hire personnel who're willing to do their job, regardless of the pay.
> Oh, right, they're not all lining up because there's an endless amount of jobs they could do that pay more and don't require them to risk their life on a near-daily basis.
Flipping burgers, factory work, house keeping, domestic care facilities etc. Hell, our very own Kook has more integrity (and intelligence) than Pete Arredondo, and I suspect that she would be willing to risk her life to protect a child in any circumstance.
> You know what I meant.
I know you were quoting a figure without even bothering to look up either the salary or the benefits Uvalde's police force were being paid to stand by listening to children being murdered.
> >They are paid near the bottom end of the middle class. Or, at best, the middle of the middle class. > > "Middle class" doesn't suggest people who don't have other options.
Semantics semantics semantics. Don't care. The people who become police offers often don't have the skills, education, or intelligence to do much of anything else. Many, perhaps even most, blue collar jobs pay more. And, again, they don't typically require you to risk your life! Plumbers, truck drivers, electricians, and on and on.
> Can't be bothered looking up the stats, but they probably do in other parts of the country. If Uvalde's police force is neither competent nor dedicated, sack them all and hire personnel who're willing to do their job, regardless of the pay.
Very naive to think the world works like that. You sound privileged and out of touch.
> Hell, our very own Kook has more integrity (and intelligence)
Stopped reading right there.
> Oh, wow, a list of benefits that most countries give every citizen for simply existing.
Certainly not the United States.
BTW, why haven't you addressed my point about Pete Arredondo. Logically, a police chief makes more than other officers and should have the leadership skills necessary to lead his staff during a crisis. Why did he fail so catastrophically, ordering his crew to stay put while 19 children and two adults were systematically murdered? What was his excuse?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,182,633
@1,182,621 (D)
No idea. Look it up yourself if you're genuinely interested.
Actually, can't say I care what he was making. He was accepting a salary for a job he refused to do. As I said, he was both both criminally incompetent and morally bankrupt. He should be prosecuted, but it's unlikely he'll ever stand trial.
$29,228.40 (and that's after six years). Like I said, it's not always about money. Let me guess your next reply - American soldiers are not always in the line of fire. Or "how much are they payed when they enter a war zone?"
> If you find it so outrageous other people are not stepping in the line of fire to save our children, why don't you step up to the plate?
Were I younger and had sufficient training, I might consider it. Even now, if I saw a group of children facing a lethal threat, I'd do whatever I could to help.
What about you? How much would you charge to risk your life for a defenseless child? Would $110,022 a year be enough?
> What about you? How much would you charge to risk your life for a defenseless child? Would $110,022 a year be enough?
It would not, and therefore if it weren't enough for me, I wouldn't assume it'd be enough for any other reasonable person. It doesn't even seem to be enough for you, and from your arguments here, I wouldn't even consider you a reasonable person.
It's real easy to sit behind your keyboard or phone and say, "I'd do whatever I can to help" while you continue to do nothing but complain about what other people should be doing. Just in: there's an on-going crisis right now with the state of the police force in literally every developed nation (at least). It didn't start just last year or the year before. It's been happening for decades. There's a lot you could be doing. And there's also a lot you could have been doing no matter how back in time you want to travel.